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Title: Handbook Index - Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on May 14, 2013, 04:31:44 PM
Link to the Handbook Index (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=399.0).

Since we have these now, why make everyone PM me? That's just silly.

Post here with comments, questions, concerns, additions, retractions, humorous anecdotes, obscure metaphors, and anything else that might be relevant to the big fat listing of handbooks.

I update the main listing on a schedule of "whenever I feel like it", which is usually about every 3-4 months. Until then, I try to record the new handbook links and other changes to be made in the 3rd post (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=399.msg1857#msg1857) of the handbook thread so nothing gets lost (in theory, anyways).
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Mithril Leaf on May 15, 2013, 11:49:37 PM
Still no Practical Demonkeeping update. http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=6320 (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=6320)
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Demelain on July 30, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871214/Dispelling_38;_Counterspelling_Compilation

A compilation on dispelling/counterspelling.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: sirpercival on July 30, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
We should have an index of Discussion Threads, and then a Discussion Thread for that index.

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Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on July 31, 2013, 04:54:17 AM
Your image link is broken, Sirp.

Everything that was to be sorted and updated is now sorted and updated.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: sirpercival on July 31, 2013, 05:17:40 AM
Your image link is broken, Sirp.

Everything that was to be sorted and updated is now sorted and updated.
Not for me... must be your firewall.  Anyway it's probably obvious what it is.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Nanshork on July 31, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
Your image link is broken, Sirp.

Everything that was to be sorted and updated is now sorted and updated.
Not for me... must be your firewall.  Anyway it's probably obvious what it is.

Actually it is broken for me too.   :p
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: sirpercival on July 31, 2013, 10:26:14 AM
Your image link is broken, Sirp.

Everything that was to be sorted and updated is now sorted and updated.
Not for me... must be your firewall.  Anyway it's probably obvious what it is.

Actually it is broken for me too.   :p
Fine. Try that.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Nanshork on July 31, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
Your image link is broken, Sirp.

Everything that was to be sorted and updated is now sorted and updated.
Not for me... must be your firewall.  Anyway it's probably obvious what it is.

Actually it is broken for me too.   :p
Fine. Try that.

Nice.   :P
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on October 25, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
I use this thread, Spells that save you from taking feats or investing skill points? (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=3797.0), fairly often.  It's not a formal handbook but is a good reference even though it's not complete.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on November 04, 2013, 11:48:11 PM
The TWF Offhandbook, http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15034585 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15034585), is a good, comprehensive resource on TWF with some good rules discussion.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on December 14, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176968 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176968)

This is a fairly good handbook on the warblade.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on December 15, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252715 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252715)

And this is another handbook, on warlocks.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on December 15, 2013, 10:31:09 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159617 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159617)

This is a handbook on the Suel Arcanamach.

There are a bunch of old handbooks on WotC's site, of varying quality, and I don't know if there are any general feelings about older handbooks.  This one, http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1308021 (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1308021), is on the jade phoenix mage.  It's kind over-specific and doesn't evaluate the TB base classes well but has some useful breakdowns of the basics of sequencing JPM builds.  This one, on the revenant blade http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1096851 (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1096851), is very short and  mostly a compilation of builds with some brief discussion of the PrC as a whole.

On the self-promotion front, I also have some old handbooks on the WotC boards that I can probably hunt down links to if it would be appropriate.  They are definitely out of date (I've significantly advanced in my understanding of 3.5 since I wrote them), but they cover some topics that aren't really covered in any of the current handbooks.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Waazraath on December 18, 2013, 11:27:44 AM
Where is the place you should mention a new handbook? Some people do it here, it's also done at the end of the handbook index thread...
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on December 18, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
Both places are fine, although now that there's a discussion thread it's probably better to do it here in the public board where everyone can post. I check the index thread and the index discussion thread fairly regularly, along with the Handbooks board as a whole.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Waazraath on December 18, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
Both places are fine, although now that there's a discussion thread it's probably better to do it here in the public board where everyone can post. I check the index thread and the index discussion thread fairly regularly, along with the Handbooks board as a whole.

Ok, cool! I think 5 new ones are mentioned in the handbook index thread since the last time it was updated.

Edit: oh, nvm, I see they are added to the 'unsorted' list. Do you need any help with sorting them?
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on December 18, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Both places are fine, although now that there's a discussion thread it's probably better to do it here in the public board where everyone can post. I check the index thread and the index discussion thread fairly regularly, along with the Handbooks board as a whole.

Ok, cool! I think 5 new ones are mentioned in the handbook index thread since the last time it was updated.

Edit: oh, nvm, I see they are added to the 'unsorted' list. Do you need any help with sorting them?

Only the ones in the Unsorted section of that post. The rest, I know where to put them, I just need to update my local copy of the index, and I'm too lazy to do that more than once every few months.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on December 25, 2013, 06:00:00 PM
Here are two of my old handbooks, on the enlightened fist and fochlucan lyrist respectively.  These are seriously outdated, as they were written before the end of 3.5, and I've advanced considerably both in my understanding of the rules and what kinds of things I would and wouldn't do in game.  (I wouldn't abuse polymorph, for one.)  That said, they have some good advice.  I plan to update my enlightened fist guide at some point, but probably not any time soon given my other projects.

http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/960211 (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/960211)

http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/965361 (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/965361)
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on December 25, 2013, 06:34:18 PM
Happy holidays, everyone. I just updated the index with all of those wonderful links that have been piling up.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on December 27, 2013, 11:38:07 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268661 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268661)

And another handbook, this time on the shadowcaster.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 06, 2014, 08:41:06 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259783 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259783)

Another swordsage handbook.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 07, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223438 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223438)

An incantatrix handbook.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275200 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275200)

A soulbow handbook.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 07, 2014, 10:49:24 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296106 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296106)

A runecaster handbook.  There's a lot of dubious rules interpretations I wouldn't allow, but also some useful ideas.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269705 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269705)

An archery handbook that's not finished but still compiles a lot of relevant information.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 10, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
The 3.5 Red Hand Of Doom Handbook for DMs (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171284)

This is a handbook for DMs rather than players and less strictly focused on optimization than most of the material around here, but it has a lot of discussion of rebuilding the Red Hand of Doom encounters to challenge optimized parties.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 10, 2014, 10:40:23 PM
 [3.5] Zen Psionics: Mastering the Meditant (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224909)

A handbook on the meditant PrC.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on January 12, 2014, 08:54:05 PM
The Gish Handbook (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321715)
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: TiaC on January 14, 2014, 03:08:02 AM
Items That Grant Feats (http://home.comcast.net/~ftm3/JHtB/feats.html) here's a page I've found useful.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Iainuki on February 14, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
The Truest of the True: A Handbook to non-Kobold Dragons (WIP) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303204)

A handbook on dragons, as PCs and NPCs.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on February 11, 2015, 03:34:17 PM
Hi folks. Just letting you know that I've been drifting away from the D&D community for a while, and I do not expect that I will keep this index updated with any new 3.5e handbooks that people make. If anyone is interested in taking over, I would suggest contacting the forum mods about transferring thread ownership. I hope this resource has been helpful while I was still maintaining it.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: kitep on February 11, 2015, 11:18:52 PM
Items That Grant Feats (http://home.comcast.net/~ftm3/JHtB/feats.html) here's a page I've found useful.

That page and more has been incorporated into a handbook
Handbook of the Exotic Practice of Feat Binding (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=4099.msg55839#msg55839) ... or, the Handbook of Feat-granting Items and Effects
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Sobolev on May 17, 2015, 09:47:38 AM
The Consolidated Binder Handbook by jameswilliamogle was in the hatchet thread, but wasn't actually here.  So now it is. (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15798)

Under Binder you have the "Trade Soul for Awesome" which I eventually just made the repost over on the old boards, and you have his original thread as well (if you want to keep that link for posterity, that's fine).  If you add the new one that is actually here rather than on BG you'll have three links that link to the same information.

I'm actually back to updating the Let's Make a Deal handbook, and it's coming along.  Not that it's been like 3 years or anything...

Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: JoshuaD on July 16, 2015, 02:00:56 AM
The New Bard's Handbook: http://www.joshuad.net/new-bard-handbook/
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: xzyx on July 19, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
There are loads of Pathfinder's classes handbooks thus far.

I've even found a Pathfidner Handbook Index - might be cool to include these on your index.

http://zenithgames.blogspot.com.br/2012/11/the-comprehensive-pathfinder-guides.html
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Jowgen on August 05, 2015, 11:05:06 AM
I humbly submit my handbooks from over at giantitp for addition to the index here. The tenser's floating disk one I copied over to this board a while ago on request, but I don't think it's been added here yet (also, I've been lazy in discussion). The Feat granting items one I just linked Ninjenko to so that he can absorb it into his feat-binding guide if he so chooses, as I didn't want to step on his toes by copying it over, so you may not want to include that.

http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15724.0

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?381621-List-of-ways-to-deny-enemies-X-to-AC-other-defenses

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?355562-quot-Can-I-Take-10-quot-Table-of-sourcebook-examples-mentions-of-taking-10

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?400840-List-of-Feat-Granting-Items-Locations-Grafts

And my personal favorite creation: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?410846-The-Redeemery-Saving-Souls-for-Good-and-Profit-Work-in-Progress
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on October 28, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
I noticed that carnivore's Pixie Handbook and Pyro build weren't ported over.
I'm listing these just for the link, to then go get them at wayback.

Pixie Handbook
http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1240341

Hot Little Number
http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1166741
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Nifft on April 24, 2016, 11:01:36 PM
Magic Item Granting Feats link is dead: http://home.comcast.net/~ftm3/JHtB/feats.html
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: kitep on April 25, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
Magic Item Granting Feats link is dead: http://home.comcast.net/~ftm3/JHtB/feats.html

We have a handbook on this board for that stuff

Handbook of the Exotic Practice of Feat Binding ...or, the Handbook of Feat-granting Items and Effects (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=4099.msg55839#msg55839)
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: IlPazzo on May 31, 2016, 10:30:51 AM
I suggest adding a line in the first post with instructions for newbies on how to find handbooks that were in the WotC boards, e.g.
"As of date the Wizards of the Coast boards have been shut down. You can find most removed handbooks and other material in this thread. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444041-Threads-from-the-Wizards-forums)"
I have been directing a lot of people to the Handbook Index and this would help them a lot.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Samwise on November 03, 2016, 01:43:10 AM
My handbook on travel magic:
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=17493.0
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: PlzBreakMyCampaign on November 22, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
We should have an index of Discussion Threads, and then a Discussion Thread for that index.

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Oh. I keep thinking that that is what this thread is.

Basically, when I want to add something to a handbook, I have to search through 11 pages of discussion pages to see if a discussion thread on the handbook yet. Thoughts, OP?
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on December 29, 2016, 01:08:35 AM
Happy new year and holidays. I've gone through one final update and sorting of the index for the end of 2016.

By the way, I'm not very active on this site any more. In the unlikely event that there's a sudden surge in 3rd edition handbook activity, I probably won't be keeping up with it at all. In the off chance that that happens and becomes an issue, I have no objections to the admins taking over and/or giving the thread to someone who's more active.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: TC X0 Lt 0X on December 30, 2016, 04:47:37 AM
Happy new year and holidays. I've gone through one final update and sorting of the index for the end of 2016.

By the way, I'm not very active on this site any more. In the unlikely event that there's a sudden surge in 3rd edition handbook activity, I probably won't be keeping up with it at all. In the off chance that that happens and becomes an issue, I have no objections to the admins taking over and/or giving the thread to someone who's more active.

Is it at all possible for Admins to grant anyone with the DnD Handbook Writer title to be able to edit the post?
If so people can add in their Handbook links to the Index directly.
Title: Re: Handbook Index Discussion Thread
Post by: Garryl on July 14, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
The index is updated with the newly restored links. Among other benefits, the links to unported BG handbooks now point to the restored BG archive. All of those old threads are now accessible once again.
Title: Re: Handbook Index - Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyrock on October 14, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
Sohei Handbook: http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18142.0

Under Base Classes => Martial.
Title: Re: Handbook Index - Discussion Thread
Post by: nijineko on June 18, 2020, 11:17:10 AM
Since there is a psionics section under magic and alternate systems, shouldn't the Master Psionics List appear under there?

I've also updated the List thread so that it actually shows every power by name and source in the thread.

This should make it more useful to everyone.