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Title: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on July 31, 2018, 07:08:10 PM

pdf ---> https://media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/magic/Plane_Shift_Dominaria.pdf

lots of backgrounds + similar.

Aven on page 6 , might be (idk) a bit different from ps:amonkhet.

Keldon Human on page 19 are not like other humans.
+2 Str , +1 Con , Athletics , Str save prof , cold adapted
... could shore up grapple Rogues + Bards.

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: SorO_Lost on July 31, 2018, 09:25:46 PM

Quote from: awaken_D_M_golem on July 31, 2018, 07:08:10 PM

Aven on page 6 , might be (idk) a bit different from ps:amonkhet.

Pretty much, Alignment's changed but the biggest deal is they are Hawk-Headed Avens, but Amonket allows you to pick Ibis-Headed.

Details	Amonket	Dominaria
ASI	Dex +2 & (int +1 or wis +2)	Dex & Wis +2
Age	80s	80s
Alignment	N / LN	LG
Size	5'~6' Medium	5'~6' Medium
Speed	25ft land & 30ft fly (light-only)	25ft land & 30ft fly (light-only)
Languages	Aven & Common	Aven & Common
Other	Kefnet’s Blessing (+1/2 prof to int checks you lack prof in) or Hawkeyed (+prof to perception, -disadvantage on long range)	Hawkeyed (+prof to perception, -disadvantage on long range)

They feel like the divine answer to the flying Teifling.

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 01, 2018, 05:52:31 PM

Yep that's it , thanks.

hmm does Kefnet's Blessing stack or overlap with Bard's Jack of all Trades ?
If it stacks , a Wiz Abjure 7 / Bard 2 gets a nice boost.

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 01, 2018, 09:57:19 PM

Quote from: awaken_D_M_golem on August 01, 2018, 05:52:31 PM

hmm does Kefnet's Blessing stack or overlap with Bard's Jack of all Trades ?

Technically no?

Quote from: PHB54

Jack of All Trades
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus.

Quote from: Amonket

Kefnet’s Blessing
You can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any Intelligence check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus.

You are including your Proficiency bonus, even if it is just half of it.

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 06, 2018, 03:17:44 PM

hmm I didn't anticipate that.
I was thinking more like Barb AC and Monk AC overlap / not stack.


I can see your post working on set theory along the lines of :
No Prof = zero, and Yes Prof = any number greater than zero.
Or working linguistically as :
adjective noun vs "no adjective" noun , doesn't matter, the noun is the noun.


I'd argue that :  half+half=whole , is simpler.

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 06, 2018, 04:33:19 PM

Quote from: awaken_D_M_golem on August 06, 2018, 03:17:44 PM

I'd argue that :  half+half=whole , is simpler.

Is it really through? Because it prompts the idea of more complex builds and requires referencing to untested UA content subject which to change all so you can be asked about how far your houserules that allow them to stack actually go.

For example, instead of using them both we just want to use Proficiency with Jack of All Trades. One adds a whole and the other adds a half, it's totally simpler to say you apply x1.5 right?  :thumb

Title: Re: Plane Shift : Dominaria
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 08, 2018, 03:19:55 PM

They do have counting that does work like that,
like spellcasting, a 1/2 level + 2 * 1/3 level = 1
and can go up from there.

But I can see the problem, say with FiChamp 7
where 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 , but with all three abilities
it'd go 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 with the cap.

They handle skill expertise just fine.
The various wordings can be tighter to more clearly
indicate which counting style they're using.
Perhaps I'm asking for too specific a granularity.
 :-\