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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2012, 10:43:10 AM »
Not that I want to make this any more challenging for Fruuzberglag (who is the very model of a modern balor general), but shouldn't those iteratives cap off at -5? (Assuming you're pulling from his stat block for the duplicate, this should benefit us indirectly too.)

Also, at some later date (possibly the next time we level), would you object strongly to me swapping around a few things on my sheet? Namely, one or two spells and changing Rapid Shot for Two-Weapon Fighting/some defensive Tome feat.
Yeah, I forgot we were doing that... It wouldn't have mattered much (except that he definitely should have power attacked for more :P ).

And sure, after this battle you can swap around things however you want. Heck, you can even do it via an in-game mechanic: Wish for a Psychic Reformation when you guys get some down time. Or we can just do it "behind the curtain".
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« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2012, 11:22:47 AM »
Yeah, in retrospect there was absolutely no reason to take Rapid Shot when TWF was available. Not quite sure what I was thinking there.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2012, 11:34:16 AM »
Yeah, in retrospect there was absolutely no reason to take Rapid Shot when TWF was available. Not quite sure what I was thinking there.
If you want... go ahead and swap things out, if it's a quick and easy fix.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2012, 11:37:32 AM »
Yeah, in retrospect there was absolutely no reason to take Rapid Shot when TWF was available. Not quite sure what I was thinking there.
If you want... go ahead and swap things out, if it's a quick and easy fix.
Should be. As far as I remember, I've used Rapid Shot a grand total of once, way back in the first encounter. We'll just pretend I wished up an extra crossbow while I was at it, since those are use-activated and don't count toward the item limit.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2012, 11:48:01 AM »
Yeah, in retrospect there was absolutely no reason to take Rapid Shot when TWF was available. Not quite sure what I was thinking there.
If you want... go ahead and swap things out, if it's a quick and easy fix.
Should be. As far as I remember, I've used Rapid Shot a grand total of once, way back in the first encounter. We'll just pretend I wished up an extra crossbow while I was at it, since those are use-activated and don't count toward the item limit.
Sure.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2012, 11:52:53 AM »
Yeah, in retrospect there was absolutely no reason to take Rapid Shot when TWF was available. Not quite sure what I was thinking there.
If you want... go ahead and swap things out, if it's a quick and easy fix.
Should be. As far as I remember, I've used Rapid Shot a grand total of once, way back in the first encounter. We'll just pretend I wished up an extra crossbow while I was at it, since those are use-activated and don't count toward the item limit.
Sure.
Alright, done.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2012, 05:42:50 PM »
Alright, so I'm assuming none of us can take on a phane nor "just" a balor-clone. What are we doing here, guys? Do I just picked X up and throw him in the lava? As hilarious as that imagery is (One Fastball Special, coming up!), I'm still not sure if there's anything special X needs to do in order to get this artifact. Maybe we're all just better getting back in the pit?

Also, how would he get back out afterward, especially with the DMZ?

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« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2012, 06:03:02 PM »
Xuuvosic has a climb speed, so the only obstacles to that plan are the thickness of the lava (I don't think he has any ranks in Swim) and the length of time it'll take to retrieve the artifact, get back up, and get out. Plus we have a balor duplicate to deal with. Granted, it's no Fruuzberglag, but I think the fact that the original is grappling a phane is indication that we're not fighting a stock creature here.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2012, 06:13:28 PM »
We made Knowledge checks about the Phane, but has anyone made a check for the double?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2012, 06:32:25 PM »
We made Knowledge checks about the Phane, but has anyone made a check for the double?
Are we counting the ones we made earlier in the ruins? Knowing about the phane's time duplicate shenanigans would probably be covered under the check we made for the phane.
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« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2012, 07:24:39 PM »
Ain't that one of those times where we should throw as many distractions as Wish Economy-ly possible at the clone? Remember, our goal isn't to kill him, but to slow him down so we can GTFO.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2012, 07:35:31 PM »
Yeah, if Fruuzberglag can hold off the phane and we can keep the clone from getting anywhere while Xuuvosic grabs the artifact, hopefully we'd manage to get it safely.

Now by "distractions," did you possibly mean "death attacks"? Because I can do those, even this round if I have to. Alternatively, I can just throw what little I have in the way of offensive spells at it--I'm not a full caster, but Ray of Exhaustion and Unluck are decent enough, although I have little confidence the balor is going to be failing those saves.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #112 on: July 16, 2012, 07:47:48 PM »
Hmm.. if only we could drown the time-clone balor in the lava...

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2012, 08:00:27 PM »
I'm almost positive he'd have some sort of Freedom of Moveme--wait, that's right, DMZ. Problem is, our only fireproof party member probably can't grapple a balor.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #114 on: July 16, 2012, 10:47:12 PM »
Oh, were that I were fireproof...

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2012, 11:51:18 PM »
Shit really be stacked against us...

Mkay, possibilities.

A) Fake intra-party dissension. Requires us to trust each other ICly enough to both get that we're pretending, and be competent enough at lying to fool the time-clone.

B) Conjurate the SHIT out of him from outside the DMZ. Good news is, Conjuration covers a LOT of battlefield control. Bad news is, even assuming our best shots... we'll be low on juice and likely in tatters pretty damn quick, so Xuuvosic better have some goddamn wings on his feet.

C) All of the above? Intra-party dissension kicks in, distracts the timeclone long enough for positioning, then BAM!

Raoul is a fairly competent liar if you guys wanna go with that.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #116 on: July 17, 2012, 01:53:31 AM »
If it's RJ and Raoul, I'm not so sure we'd be faking. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #117 on: July 17, 2012, 05:26:23 AM »
Is the clone outside the DMZ? I'm thinking there is a decent chance it can't enter. Usually, summoned things wink out of they enter one. But then again, that's the case with incorporeals as well and the Phane was fine.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2012, 07:06:48 AM »
I'm almost positive he'd have some sort of Freedom of Moveme--wait, that's right, DMZ. Problem is, our only fireproof party member probably can't grapple a balor.
For that matter, I'm pretty sure balors are themselves fireproof.

We could try to take the clone on with some serious assymetric tactics (read: Debuff and Rocket Tag his flaming ass), I suppose.

If it's RJ and Raoul, I'm not so sure we'd be faking. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2012, 07:13:46 AM »
Yeah! We can totally take on a 20+ HD creature with only 2 negative levels and all the abilities of the original creature! That's going to go so well!  :cool