Min/Max Boards

Quote from: SolEiji on November 17, 2011, 05:37:45 AM

What would happen if creatures greater than +4 CR of you were resistant or immune to save or dies?  It would restrict it to using it on mooks and not bosses.  Of course, that's not a solution for the raw damage deaths... emm, creatures above +4 CR have a hard damage cap that you can affect them with?  Like Yaizmat in FF12, where after a while your maximum damage drops from 9999 to something like 3500 or something.

Hmm, it could even scale so that things only a few CR above you are merely resistant while things dramatically above you are almost impossible due to the limits.

*Rubs chin, thinking*

That would have two problems:
First of all it breaks the immersion and make everything feel very video game-ish: I'm a wizard X; BBEG is immune to my Disintegrate. I level up and being stupid I become a wizard x/fighter 1. Although I have exactly the same magical ability, the BBEG is no longer immune to my Disintegrate.
Secondly save-or-die aren't the main offenders of rocket tag, but no-save-just-suck (or die or whatever). How do you make something immune to let's say Forcecage based on CR? It either has teleportation abilities and then it's forever immune to it(unless you use Dimensional Anchor) or it doesn't.

Touche, didn't think about no-save-just-suck, though I intended "save or die" to include save or suck as well.  The immersion thing is easy to overcome with refluffing, but yeah, right now the idea isn't workable as is.  Maybe set it to CL rather than HD.... but there are ways to boost CL.  Hmm, I dunno.  Actual non-boosted CL?

I wouldn't mind SoDs being in the favor of bosses were it used sparingly.  Ups the danger with them, and I'm ok with that.  Likewise these former boss monsters become weaker when you outclass them turning them into mooks.

I'll give it some thought, I kinda like the idea, if I could solve its flaws.

Ooo, so... if I had, say, 5 familiars, and chain spell magic jar (CL 20) that's 20 animals per familiar, so....  

Ooooo..... I LIKE it.  Do the possessed animals have the share spell ability still?  Cause then that would be even better.

What would happen if creatures greater than +4 CR of you were resistant or immune to save or dies?  It would restrict it to using it on mooks and not bosses.  Of course, that's not a solution for the raw damage deaths... emm, creatures above +4 CR have a hard damage cap that you can affect them with?  Like Yaizmat in FF12, where after a while your maximum damage drops from 9999 to something like 3500 or something.

Hmm, it could even scale so that things only a few CR above you are merely resistant while things dramatically above you are almost impossible due to the limits.

*Rubs chin, thinking*

How about symbiots instead of familiars, these too have the share spells class

I'll take both.  Though, given symbiots tend to be attached to you how well would it work if I cast, say, Body of War.  Would we be some sort of horrible siamese twin warforged or something?

Correction, feat combinations.  I forgot feat chains specifically refers to feats which pre-reqs of other feats.

Quote from: Kuroimaken on November 08, 2011, 11:18:19 PM

full BAB, decent HD

Samurai has the same BAB and a better HD. It does however lack the decent class features part but I never really felt that it deserved to be ranked so low. Sure its class features pretty much amount to exotic weapon proficiency, quick draw, improved initiative and a crappy version of two weapon fighting but it isn't warrior bad by any means

Funny, I just was talking about this with someone else.  The thing I find with the overall strength of classes is both their strength in combat and out of combat.  If one compares Fighter with Ranger, ranger is generally inferior in combat what with being locked into one of two fighting styles, not having feats to burn, and only being effective against certain types.  On the other hand, out of combat fighters are pretty useless while rangers have a bevy of things they can do using their class features.

Compare that to a Samurai, and it becomes either a Fighter without feats, or a Ranger without utility.  Either way, it neither excels at one of the two tasks nor is able to perform both tasks well.

And to stay on topic.... I'm split between druid and samurai.  I have actually attempted to optimize samurai and I can say my options were limited at best.  Basically I made a pretty good intimidator out of it, but it was probably done with any other class, most of its power coming from race and feat choices.  I think the problem is that the samurai really doesn't have any class features to speak of.  The ones it does have are all done better by every other class out there.  Even monks at least have something new and unique or rare (flurry, SR, unarmed strike, something).  A gimped TWF isn't enough.

Well, seems like that did the trick. Also, blink animations for the win.

Is... is that image blinking SIDEWAYS?  I swear it is, it's like a reticulating membrane or something...

I'm glad to see something besides the faux-password popup at least.  I am Solaris Eiji, master of homebrew and the local lurking animated construct.  I'm usually hiding in the background and occasionally pop my head up to say something.