Min/Max Boards

I just realized that Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition came out last year (basically a reboot of the 2002 BioWare game based on D&D 3rd edition).

For those that are not familiar, it has a pretty decent re-creation of 3rd edition rules, converted to real-time (with pause) and a decent but not extensive(it doesn't have every splatbook like we're used to) list of classes, prestige classes and feats to scratch that minmax itch.

The main limitation I've found, is that you can only pick 3 classes (including prestige); but, that still leaves quite a bit of wiggle room.  It's also refreshing to see the imbalance preserved, you could play a monk with your CHA maxed out and pick toughness every time... if you really wanted to.

I've been looking through recent character build threads and it's nice to see new 3e players running around.

How would you guys stat out the Ancient Psychic Tandem War Elephant from adventure time?

The rules: (These will be spoilered for future challenges)
1:  No points are given to trolls
2:  This contest is open indefinitely, thread necros are encouraged
3:  Builds are judged on Creativity, Borkedness, Rules-Clarity, Something Else
4:  Everyone is a judge, go nuts.

For the first arbitrarily reoccurring CO challenge Break this houserule, all partial progression PrCs are now full progression PrCs.  This includes spell casting, manifesting, binding, incarnum, shadowcasting infusions and the like.

For example, Green Star Adept10 would progress casting by 10 levels instead of 5.
Thrallherd10 would increase manifesting by 10 instead of 8.
True Necromancer would give full arcane divine progression.

So are  there any badass builds that can survive and thrive in Gish city'?
Any PrCs that suddenly become playable? What borkedness do I need  to watch for if I implement this house rule?

As the title says... two quick modifications to the Monk base class.

Flurry of blows is a swift action.  (Because Monks are so fast!)

Mind Over Matter (Ex):  Through rigorous training, both physical and mental, a Monk's body and mind become unified as she gains levels.  At each level, beginning at first, a Monk's ability scores each increase by one.  For example a first level Monk would have +1 to Str, Dex, Cha, Con, Wis and Int.  A 20th level Monk would have each ability score increased by 20.  This is not a bonus; but, a change of the ability scores.

So, a first level Monk with starting abilities of all 10's would gain the +1 bonus at first and have all 11's.  By the time the she gets to Monk 20, her stats are all 30's.

This should make it much easier for any given Monk to hit, make saves, have skills, grapple etc.... all the kinds of things that a Monk wants to do.  Shooting for Tier 3 here, am I there?

(work in progress, this message will disappear when the first draft is complete, revisions will continue to be made, comments will be considered and appreciated)
*Table borrowed from sirpercival
*Overall format borrowed from bhu

VATES


   
"I assure you, that your submission shall be to the benefit of all."
             - Kudzu, Elder Vates of the Blacktree Clan

Manipulative, calculating, philosophers of nature, Vates often live among Druidic societies, performing dark rituals of sacrifice for the benefit of the community.  Having wildly varying ideas of what Nature itself consists of, individual Vates are not always accepted by Druid Orders.  If a particular Vates is not accepted, she will often go off and attempt to start a new Order; a, "Naturally Righteous" Order.  Vates will stop at nothing to pass on their traditions, even going so far as to Rebuke a group of animals or humanoids and force them to participate in the ancient rituals.  These acts are committed only in desperation; because, each Vates knows that their version of sacrifice is the "correct" way to venerate Nature.

MAKING A Vates


 Abilities: Charisma and Constitution are most important for a Vates effectiveness.  The former improves a Vates Soulbinding, Rebuking and social skills, while the latter improves certain granted abilities of Vestiges and provides added hit points.  Intelligence will help with skill points and Dexterity and Strength will improve a Vates combat effectiveness at low levels.
 Races: As Druid, except including brutal humanoids
 Alignment: Any
 Starting Gold: As Druid
 Starting Age: As Druid

Class Skills
Class Skills at 1st Level : (4 + int)x4
Class Skills at Each Additional Level : 4 + int
 The Vate's class skills are Bluff, Concentration, Craft, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Knowledge(Arcana), Knowledge(History), Knowledge(Nature), Knowledge(Religion), Knowledge(The Planes), Profession, Sense Motive and Spellcraft.

Hit Dice: d8

Level	BAB	Fort	Ref	Will	Abilities	Maximum Vestige Level
1	+0	+2	+0	+2	Rebuke Animals	-
2	+1	+3	+0	+3	Soulbinding	1st
3	+2	+3	+1	+3	Wild Empathy	1st
4	+3	+4	+1	+4	Rebuke (2nd Subtype)	1st
5	+3	+4	+1	+4	Wild shape (1/day)	2nd
6	+4	+5	+2	+5	Wild shape (2/day)	2nd
7	+5	+5	+2	+5	Wild shape (3/day)	2nd
8	+6	+6	+2	+6	Wild shape (Large)	2nd
9	+6	+6	+3	+6	Rebuke (3rd Subtype)	3rd
10	+7	+7	+3	+7	Wild shape (4/day)	3rd
11	+8	+7	+3	+7	Wild shape (Tiny)	3rd
12	+9	+8	+4	+8	Wild shape (EX)	3rd
13	+9	+8	+4	+8	Wild shape (All Chosen Rebuke Subtypes)	4th
14	+10	+9	+4	+9	Rebuke (4th Subtype)	4th
15	+11	+9	+5	+9	Wild shape (5/day)	4th
16	+12	+10	+5	+10	Wild shape (Huge)	4th
17	+12	+10	+5	+10	Wild shape (SU)	5th
18	+13	+11	+6	+11	Wild shape (6/day)	5th
19	+14	+11	+6	+11	Rebuke (5th Subtype)	5th
20	+15	+12	+6	+12	Wild shape (SP)	5th

Weapon Proficiencies: All simple weapons, Light and Medium Armor (Except Tower Shields).
 Put all the different class abilities in here!
 
PLAYING A VATES
 Brief description on how to play the class you are designing.

 Religion: A brief description of the different religions that the class commonly follows. It's best to state your sources if you are using non-core gods.

 Other Classes: An in detail section on how your class interacts with other classes. Best to state your sources if your going to refer to non-core classes.

 Combat: Here's a section where you will describe common combat methods for your class. Remember to include information on how your class will use his powers in combat.

 Advancement: This is a section on different options and paths that the class can go down when they advance in power.

VATES IN THE WORLD
A quote of somebody else talking about your class!
 A brief description of how your class is persevered in the world and how he interacts with the world.
 Daily Life: Some general information about the typical day in the life of your class.
 Notables: Make up some cool information about notable figures in the history of your class. It's best to give a little information from one of the good alignment and evil alignment (unless it's a good or evil only class).
 Organizations: Some information about organizations dedicated to the practice of your class and other organizations which members of your class will be attracted towards.

NPC Reaction
 This is an in detail description of how NPC's would perceive your class and the immediate generalization that people would give of your class.

VATES IN THE GAME
 This is a good place to provide a quick note on how your class will effect game play statistically.
 Adaptation: This is a place where you put in detail how people can adapt your class into their campaign setting.
 Encounters: This is a place to describe what sort of encounters PC's will have with NPC versions of your class.



EPIC VATES

Hit Die: dx
Skills Points at Each  Level : x + int
Class Ability
Class Ability.
Bonus Feats: The Epic Class Name gains a Bonus Feat every x levels higher than 20th

                      (Takes Item Familiar, to get enough xp for 3 more class levels)

                (xp == 9th level Character, ecl 1)
                                                       | 
                                                       v
Binder1, (All 36 Major Bloodline Levels),   Ardent1, Wizard 4, Changeling Wizard 5th substitution level, Ghost 2, Master of the Unseen Hand 4, Thrallherd1, (Arcane)Swordsage1
                                                 

Fragile at low levels, but at the end;

[If Bloodlines stack with each other, b/c they are "Bloodline Class Levels" that specifically stack with other "Classes"]
EBL = 1 + 36 + (33 * 12 [BL's adding to each other]) = 433
ML = (1Ardent + 36 + (33 * 12 [BL's adding to each other])) = 433

IL = 1 + 18 + (33 * 6 [BL's adding half to each other])) + 7[Half of remaining class levels]= 224
                                    (198)                                     
Telekinesis CL = 12(Ghost) + 4(MotUH) + 36 + (33 * 12 [BL's adding to each other]) = 448
Telekinesis BaB = CL(448) + CHA mod
Telekinesis Full attack = +448/+443/+438/+433

The Emperor chooses Telekinesis from Ghost
Shards of Leadership (except uses Thrallherd to kick it off) for every Power and (Arcane(which includes Arcane versions of Divine spells))Spell as a Power
Is Shapechanged all the time as a Maneuver

Alternating Thralls with levels in Planar Shepherd and Hierophant or Cleric and Hierophant provide tons of wildshape and Turn/Rebuke uses

A Thrall with 36 Bloodline Levels and 6 levels of Fiend of Possession could bestow powers on an item with a value as an enhancement bonus equal to its class level, so a
6 + 36 + (33*12) = a +438 weapon for you to use with your insane Telekinesis CL!

This doesn't even account for the extra xp from having a lower ecl (2 at party level 10 for example) after taking all of the Bloodline levels, so there are really more free levels to play with

Just like the title says: building a triple gestalt character, level 1 to 15ish probably, 32 point buy, all official 3.5 & web enhancements,

Other party members 2 -4
One was talking about cleric//full BaB stuff
another said either beguiler//something or wizard//rouge, skills, SA & skirmish stuff
the other two idk or if they will even play

My character concept is that he thinks he is superior and uses others for his gain
So far Kalashtar BinderX,KoSS5, thrallherd1//DFA

I would really like to have something similar to ghost4's malevolence or Fiend of Possession instead of DFA but I doubt it would get approved
Ok, two players dropped out and the DM wants to "experiment" we now have three in the party, triple gestalt(three classes instead of gestalt's two), tier 3 and below base classes only, no multiclassing within a "side" so that "we don't get confused"

Any ideas for the third class?

Most everyone is aware of the Magic vs Mundane problem that boils down to the mundanes losing, in a big way, repeatedly, in the alley.

Now that being said, I'm not looking for 50 pages of flame war about whether mundanes can hold their own against casters. 

I'm looking for a character that consistently hoses casters, yet has serious trouble with the mundane(melee, ranged, sneaky etc...) guys.

All books, editions, third party, ad-hoc-homebrew available(if needed).  Self-nerfing and liberal TO, in order to reach this goal, are allowed.

Here's my first crack at it:
Cloistered DMM cleric that is focused highly on anti-magic and counterspelling.  His custom domain(not_real) allows him to counter a spell of the same level spontaneously instead of the cure/inflict line, and turn undead is now rebuke spell(and possibly rebuke spell-like/su-ability later?).  This allows some kind of DC to decide whether he now makes all decisions regarding the rebuked spell(including dismissing and/or controlling minions).
He also never prepares any spell that is a combat buff, bfc, or healing/direct damage, or grants a minion that is not in the anti-magic spirit of the character.

Yes, it includes a lot of homebrew, but it serves as an example of concept.
Bonus points if you can solve this without homebrew.

Basically, I want a character that kills tippy wizard(angel summoner) and gets killed by fighter20(bmx bandit) most every time.  A kind of rock paper scissors if you will.

Also, is this topic worth pursuing?  If such a character was made, would it matter?

As the title states, could a Planar Shepherd choose his own(through epic/arcane heirophant/gestalt etc...) or the party Wizards custom demi-plane for insane time tricks? (Planar bubble)


If so that's an arbitrary number of actions each round inside the planar bubble...