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The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« on: February 13, 2014, 05:36:37 PM »
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Here it is. Includes new and old grafts, including the dragon magazine ones. I've been thinking about this handbook since before the cost reduction one.

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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 11:39:15 PM »
Posted this in Fun Finds:
So, Fiendish Grafts are even cheaper than we thought.  According to the Fiend Folio:
Quote from: Fiend Folio, page 209
Even when a character gains a fiendish graft as a prestige class benefit, however, a fiendish entity typically bestows the graft at the climax of a dark ritual.  Characters without such specific prestige classes can perform similar rituals in order to gain the benefits of a fiendish graft.  Such a ritual requires 10 rounds and deals 1d4 points of damage to the character per round.
Emphasis mine, but that is the entire paragraph.

Got at least 40 HP and a minute of time?  Get yourself a fiendish graft today!
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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 03:36:12 PM »
 :tongue ... (uh-oh I just had a bad aDMg moment)


Heidi Montag ?
I'd hazard a guess you've been just as thorough investigating all of her "grafts".

edit --- not that it'd be all that enjoyable  :eh
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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2016, 04:24:22 PM »
Anyone notice that getting a yuan-ti graft qualifies you as a scaly-kind?

Which means any race with a yuan-ti graft from a Toril-native source qualifies as a target for manipulate form.
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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 02:19:19 AM »
@fiendish graft. That seems like a fluff "here's how you actually get the graft" that specifies an "oh buy the way it hurts x amount too"

@yaun-ti page number for the handbook?

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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 12:59:38 PM »
@yaun-ti page number for the handbook?

I'll have to try to remember to look that up when i'm at home. pretty sure it's in serpent kingdoms.
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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 11:36:03 PM »
So it was pointed out to me today that your line under new grafts:

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A single creature can have only 5 New Style grafts. A single creature cannot have more than one type of graft (Construct, Deathless, Dragonic, Plant, or Elemental).
The above does not prevent you from mixing different types outright: You can apply Elemental grafts to someone who all ready has an Aboleth graft, provided you do not have more than 5 Elemental grafts, and do not try to apply a Plant, Dragonic, Construct, or Deathless graft later on.

Appears to be incorrect. In RotD:

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An individual can have a total of fi  ve grafts on
his body, and all grafts must be of the same kind. A
single body can support only so many growths before it is
overwhelmed with competing biomagical signals, result-
ing in death or, as is more often the case, utter madness.
No portion of the body (head, skin, fl  esh, legs, and arms)
can have more than one graft. Furthermore, no character
can have more than one type of graft—for instance, both
a draconic graft and an undead graft (described on page
70 of Libris Mortis or page 214 of Fiend Folio)
.
Rumors of
attempts to bypass these biological limits abound, but
such monstrosities—for that is what such creatures
become—rarely live long

It specifies Undead Grafts as it's example, which is one of the old style grafts. And presuming that Aboleth Grafts don't have some other rules that allow you to use the new style grafts with them which for some reason wouldnt apply to Undead Grafts despite following the same rules, this seems to indicate that old style grafts and new style grafts are incompatible with one another.
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Re: The Complete Graft Handbook Discussion
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 11:57:39 AM »
@yaun-ti page number for the handbook?

I'll have to try to remember to look that up when i'm at home. pretty sure it's in serpent kingdoms.

Quote from: Serpent Kingdoms, p5
Scaled Ones
This encompasses all creatures in the following subcategories.
  • SCALYKIND...
  • LIZARDS...
  • SERPENT CONSTRUCTS...
  • SERPENTS...
  • SERPENTFOLK
    (In addition to creatures with the Snake Blood feat (see Feats in FORGOTTEN REALMS Campaign Setting) or a yuan-ti graft, the term serpentfolk includes all of the following creatures from the books published for theD&D game...)

From this it is seen that any toril-based yuan-ti graft makes one count as a Scaled One.
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