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Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« on: November 04, 2015, 04:08:52 PM »
Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
 
       Abjurers abjure
       Conjurers conjure
       Diviners divine
       Enchanters enchant
       Evokers evoke
       Illusionists ...?
       Necromancers ...?
       Transmuters transmute

So what is it that Illusionists + Necromancers do ?!
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 07:06:12 PM »
Illusionists . . . illudere?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illudere#Latin
Which relates to "deludo", which is simply "delude" in English.
So illude or delude or something similar, which isn't very elegant.

Necromancers . . . is more difficult.
Literally, "necromancy" is "divination from death", which means necromancers are "really" diviners, they just do it by playing with dead things.
Going by the action of raising the dead, they "animate", which would be "animo" or "animare" in Latin (related to "animus").
Not sure what sort of declension you would use for the act of killing by necromancy.

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 11:08:06 PM »
Necrotize

although there are other options., illusionists could also illustrate in the sense of exemplification of mental constructs, which would also tie in with the concept of making a representation of a real or imagined object.
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 02:05:48 AM »
I'm not arguing, I'm explaining why I'm right.

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 04:57:14 PM »
Heh, I suppose I've earned that over the decade ...  :D

Slaggs was being serious, the verbs are pretty much unknown.


Illude ... yeah has popped up on some of Slaggs postings.
I like it, even with it's beyond-archaic usage.

Phantasm has some possiblilities, like
Phainein = Phain ~= Feign and Phanes and Fane Of Lolth.
At least the pronunciation is in the ballpaark, and has some d&d usage.

Glamour = glamer, is recent enough to be probably not useful.


Necro- as a prefix , has gonna tons of modern use.  This one'll be the toughy.


Healing spells = Heal.  Nobody calls it a verison of Conjuration
unless ~~ going for the servants of a deity helps out the healing,
and then only in the most round about of terms.
Thor send* your Valkyrie down to me and (X)_____ my mom.

Teleport subschool, pretty much grabs a verb and calls it a noun.

Compulsions = compel.
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 05:21:37 PM »
Figment  has feign and imagine, in it's definition.
Those'll do. 
Puts more credence to phain = feign, usage.

Shadow shade shading, draw a shade, shade drawn etc

What else?
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2015, 02:27:19 AM »
One could say that an Illusionist Mesmerizes... of course one might also argue that an Enchanter Mesmerizes...

An Illusionist could also:
Scintillate
Decieve
Trick
Apparate
Veil
Mask
Guise << my favorite
Facade


Necromancers.... necromancers... uh.... apparently the verb form is "Necromance" or "Necromant" depending on who you ask... though neither are officially recognized in the dictionary so... lets ignore them... yea... I got nothing for this one...

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 04:10:11 PM »
"What happened? Did that wizard guise you?"
"Yes. He guised a pit trap near the door and had his body wrapped in multiple guises that took forever to penetrate. Then just when I thought I had him, he used another guising to escape."

That looks pretty good to me.
The first pushes the definition a bit, but the others are pretty standard, and convey the meaning.

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2015, 05:50:44 PM »
hmm Guise is a good one.
Disguise is common usage, while
ditching the prefix is quite rarer usage.

dictionary.reference entries go:
#2 assumed appearance or mere semblance
#4 archaic use :  manner , mode
#6 to appear or go in disguise
... mere semblance even works for Shadow related things.

I may be souring on Illude, because of the
very similar rooted elude and allusion.
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2015, 06:57:54 PM »
I may be souring on Illude, because of the
very similar rooted elude and allusion.

I suggested illude and I agree.
Guise covers more while retaining that atypical and archaic . . . guise.

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 08:26:12 PM »
       Necromancers ...?
They necromance, baby. Ready to become lichloved?
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2015, 04:53:30 PM »
Heh ... and then there's :   Nec-Bromancing

also known as Neckbeards at a Grateful Dead concert.
Dude hold on , I got UMD just  for this theng ...
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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2015, 09:44:55 PM »
Necromancers desecrate?

Given what they do is typically considered profane.

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Re: Illusionist or Necromancer Verbs the School
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2015, 05:41:21 PM »
Possibilities for sure.

Desecrate already has d&d usage, and wider meaning.
You could say:  a LN Cleric desecrates a CN "holy" site.

Profane has consistent modern usage at every gaming table fvck
and the d&d one is usually attached to [evil] tags and spells.
But evil spells can also have [vile] which is a little too obvious (and anagram-y).

Aunty Elf-iette could go to the necromancer and speak-with-dead with Grampa
and it'd be sappy and tv b.s. show legit "its so good you got to speak to your gramps"
and they'd all be Chaotic Good by varying degrees.


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