When and why would you ever get the precise enchant?

[Masakan]

All the guides i look into about this enchant say its good, however if you were gonna be a Dedicated archer you would have honestly gotten the feat, and if you weren't you probably have many other things you would want to do Plus by the time you do get it you probably already pelted your allies with arrows by this point. So does this enchant come off as redundant or is there something I'm missing?

[Keldar]

Its useful for feat light builds, or for pushing the feat off til after prerequisites.  Particularly in the typical party of pell mell melee wonks.

[Nifft]

My Cleric Archers love that enhancement.

[Masakan]

My Cleric Archers love that enhancement.

But doesnt it take a little long to get? I mean generally you would want to get it almost immediately don't you?

[kitep]

you probably already pelted your allies with arrows by this point

I'm probably reading too much into this line, but just to be sure, this is one of the differences between 3.0 and 3.5

3.0 - shooting into melee gets a -4 to hit, and a 50% chance of hitting your ally
3.5 - shooting into melee gets a -4 to hit, but no chance of hitting your ally

[ketaro]

Because of the general consensus of never spending a feat slot on something you can just buy instead? *shrugs*

[Masakan]

you probably already pelted your allies with arrows by this point

I'm probably reading too much into this line, but just to be sure, this is one of the differences between 3.0 and 3.5

3.0 - shooting into melee gets a -4 to hit, and a 50% chance of hitting your ally
3.5 - shooting into melee gets a -4 to hit, but no chance of hitting your ally

Oh you wont? so you wont hurt your allies....you would just be absolute garbage when it comes to aim, if their are in combat. Well that changes a lot

Because of the general consensus of never spending a feat slot on something you can just buy instead? *shrugs*

Unless we're talking about finesse where its hardly worth it when you can finally afford it.

[ketaro]

That's when you buy the finesse feat and retrain your finesse feat.

Same as everything else you can't buy early game where such feats are a bit more optimal for early game combat but those slots can be put to much better use in mid to late game where having a feat slot filled with precise shot or weapon finesse is kind of wasteful.

[TC X0 Lt 0X]

If you are not investing into the precise/point blank line of feats for ranged attacks but need a ranged weapon for some purpose it is great. Characters like clerics or other gishes would probably prefer their feats going to stuff that enhances spellcasting (like Metamagic and Divine Metamagic cheese).

To be fair though you do need Precise Shot as a feat for Splitting Enchant.

[snakeman830]

Because of the general consensus of never spending a feat slot on something you can just buy instead? *shrugs*

Maybe, but the Precise Shot feat is a prerequisite for so much an archer wants, and the weapon enhancement doesn't provide you with the feat, or even the benefits of the feat.  It just removes the same penalty.

The Precise weapon quality is decent for someone who does archery as a secondary or tertiary role, but if it's your main shtick, you want the feat.

[Masakan]

Because of the general consensus of never spending a feat slot on something you can just buy instead? *shrugs*

Maybe, but the Precise Shot feat is a prerequisite for so much an archer wants, and the weapon enhancement doesn't provide you with the feat, or even the benefits of the feat.  It just removes the same penalty.

The Precise weapon quality is decent for someone who does archery as a secondary or tertiary role, but if it's your main shtick, you want the feat.

Define Main if you will. Ok let me give you an example, Say that you have a character who is primarily a spellcasting Sneak attacking skillmonkey With an emphasis on being the party face...among other things, But would still want to have archery to defend themselves. Should they gun for the feat or wait till they can afford the enchant?

[nijineko]

You could also spend ~10k+ and get a magic item that actually grants the feat, in any case.