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3.5 World Records discussion thread
« on: October 30, 2013, 06:19:51 PM »
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does anyone have links to these records?
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 07:01:46 PM »
Oh man, the link rot from wotc is awful.



SorO generally has Stats figured out, but it's spread out.

Range iirc somebody got Line Of Sight to the horizon.

SirP has the Caster Level semi-loop, and consequently anything CL or ML based.

Reach iirc is an Improved Weapon using a Thingie of String about 500' long.  Hazy on the details.

Spells in a Round, I thought this got N.I. with non Pun-pun stuff.  I might be wrong.

LoP's Highest Spell Level, ahh what a beauty that was, if the thread is findable in wayback ...

Feats + Supermount , are PLZ now.

I remember Ancient Dragon showing up and doing some things, but nothin' about his Pun-pun challenger.
I wonder what the deal was, cuz if it was good I'd have been all over it.

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 07:49:56 PM »
the string thing is probably related to the Drunken Master using it as a reach weapon.

i never added my 'lowest stat build' yet, i just started with the old thread's stuff
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 10:13:13 PM »
Pity that the rules loophole that allowed the Omniscificer to work closed in later errata. Infinite skill bonus to all skills and the phrase Perform (God-Attracting Haiku) made for a fun thread.
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 10:26:58 PM »
Pity that the rules loophole that allowed the Omniscificer to work closed in later errata. Infinite skill bonus to all skills and the phrase Perform (God-Attracting Haiku) maid for a fun thread.
What'd they close? I never paid much attention to it after the initial "Hey, that's amusing" laugh.

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 09:47:16 PM »
The infamous "Drown to go to 0 HP" loophole was FAQ'd, I think. It's all that allowed the caster to survive being at negative nigh-infinite HP.

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 03:00:57 AM »
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 04:02:58 AM »
The infamous "Drown to go to 0 HP" loophole was FAQ'd, I think. It's all that allowed the caster to survive being at negative nigh-infinite HP.

You can always get a 1 use item of Stone Body and another of Transmute Mud to Rock.

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 02:34:13 PM »
The infamous "Drown to go to 0 HP" loophole was FAQ'd, I think. It's all that allowed the caster to survive being at negative nigh-infinite HP.

You can always get a 1 use item of Stone Body and another of Transmute Mud to Rock.

 :twitch , I missed all that. 
Here I thought I was paying attention.
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 08:52:35 PM »
The infamous "Drown to go to 0 HP" loophole was FAQ'd, I think. It's all that allowed the caster to survive being at negative nigh-infinite HP.

You can always get a 1 use item of Stone Body and another of Transmute Mud to Rock.

 :twitch , I missed all that. 
Here I thought I was paying attention.
Wow... what a combo! I'd thought of using Stone Body as a buff, and TMtR to heal with, but not thought of the possibilities beyond that... I actually have Stone Body + TMtR as spells known on a character of mine! Such unused potential waiting to be tapped! :D
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 09:08:31 PM »
The infamous "Drown to go to 0 HP" loophole was FAQ'd, I think. It's all that allowed the caster to survive being at negative nigh-infinite HP.

You can always get a 1 use item of Stone Body and another of Transmute Mud to Rock.

 :twitch , I missed all that. 
Here I thought I was paying attention.
Wow... what a combo! I'd thought of using Stone Body as a buff, and TMtR to heal with, but not thought of the possibilities beyond that... I actually have Stone Body + TMtR as spells known on a character of mine! Such unused potential waiting to be tapped! :D

Now I need to dig up the old Omniscificer thread. Not usable at as low a level anymore (used Delay Death, self-drown, and a contingent Cure Minor Wounds originally), but the Masochism infinite-damage loop is still survivable :D

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 07:51:01 PM »
Here's the last wotc version I managed to find (ignore the link rot).
http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1481596

Here is the original in the wayback:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061112212706/http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=546612

edit --- HA !!
wayback preserved most of LoP's sig thread links.
And they work with a bit of massaging.
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 02:58:36 PM »
Would you like me to re-work out the actual fully optimized CL of my Uber-Mind Mage build for the CL record?  I can't say definitively if that IS the record, but short of one of the NI builds, nothing I've seen comes close.

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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2013, 01:46:04 AM »
Sure. I need to, at some point, update a couple of my attempts
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2013, 10:54:19 PM »
What is the general consensus on psi-magic transparency under heightened conditions from the Magic Mantle?  Also, I will see what I can do while refraining from using Mystic Fire Knight on PrC Pally (though frankly, as this is theoretical op, everything else that isn't so easily questionable is on the table, including Master Spellthief shenanigans).

EDIT : Belay part of that, as the stated rules rule out Dragon Mag...though that's not a terribly limiting factor.

EDIT #2: Belay more of that actually...barring restrictions on number of times running things through, CL is technically NI/arbitrary.  Perhaps CL after one full cycle of buffs (i.e. optimize CL to cast Node Gen. then determine final CL from that)?  Because given no time limit (i.e. funky time realms) you can literally have a node the size of the known universe :)
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 12:36:03 PM »
It would be nice to actually see the original builds for all the world records.  Too bad the links in the old board don't work anymore since gleemax is gone, and wotc erased the rest.  Some of them I think I've broken the records of, so a comparison would be nice.  Guess it'd be like wishing for more wishes, not very feasible.
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2013, 05:40:52 PM »

What is the general consensus on psi-magic transparency under heightened conditions from the Magic Mantle?

ahh probably No general consensus; or at least not really.
I suppose you could post something dramatic, and a few
cheerleaders would support anyway, to enjoy the fireworks.
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near T.O. version would be Erudite with Magic Mantle,
and also with either StP or Discipline (ditching the psicrystal)
and then the cheesing of Magic based stuff on to it.

The limit of Erudite base < Wizard base, still applies so it ain't that bad.
I don't recall anyone bothering with builds or a thread about this.
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2014, 05:05:15 PM »
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Re: 3.5 World Records discussion thread
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2014, 12:12:02 AM »
"Wet Biscuit McGlee" uses Dragon and a NPC Template to achieve low ability scores but has a bazillion Special Qualities and is CR 17.  :plotting

Wizard 7 can UMD a Runestaff with Greater Bestow Curse from the Demonologist List.
The setup
* He stabs/kills his familiar.
* He takes the Frail Flaw and Quick Trait. (13d4-97 HP, oops)
* He has an additional -8 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, ability checks, and skill checks.
* Each turn, he has has a 25% chance to act normally; otherwise, he takes no action.
* He is sterile.
* He is blind and deaf.
* Natural 20s are treated as Natural 1s.
* Animals refuse to come within 5ft of him.
* There is a 50% chance anyone coming across him is treated Hostile towards him.
* His Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Wisdom, and Charisma are all reduced to 1.

Final actions
In we increase the Wizard's level to 13 and can use Delay Metamagic without further shenanigans.
* His Int is reduced to 1.
* Thieves will steal all his monetary treasure within the week.
* He cannot cast spells.
* All his allies despise him.

So there you go, 5 (or 3) points in his Ability Scores, no usage Class Features or Special Abilities, 1 HP, no items, and all allies and NPCs hate him so no one is coming to his rescue either. WotC Official and lower level too. And if you're undesirably picky "my build has 1 point in his ability score, you just spammed a single permanent spell of elegance" then well I just gave you ideas to improve now didn't I?