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moving spells from School A to School B
« on: January 02, 2018, 06:30:33 PM »
Usually I'm looking at this sort of thing, via a Psi/Magic Transparency prism.


This Transmuter acf can slowly move any school spell over to Trans.
Spell Versatility (Ex) A 5th-level transmuter using this variant can adapt magic of other schools to his own style of spellcasting. For every five class levels that the transmuter gains, he can select one spell of any spell level that he has access to and treat it as if it were a transmutation spell. This means, for example, that the specialist can learn the spell normally and even prepare it as a bonus spell from the transmutation school. This spell can even be from a school that he has chosen as a prohibited school. Once a spell is chosen to be affected by this ability, it cannot be changed.
from --> http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#spellVersatility
PsyRef can't help on this, unlike the DoE dragon cleric/druid -> sorc thingies.
(and separately, move said spell over to PsychoMetabolism, ho-hum, including Universals Abjures + Necros that otherwise couldn't)


What other abilities + spells, move spells from 1 school over to 1 other school ??
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Re: moving spells from School A to School B
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 04:49:01 PM »
... and it's a decent target for Retraining.  So that's 5 spells from levels 5 to 9 , 10 spells from levels 10 to 14 but ~solidifying 5 , 10 more spells from 15 to 19 while ~solidifying 5 more , etc.  Need a little bit of :  On Hand to Scrolls ratio , among the whole batch.

Alamanthar's Return (in it's superior name from 3.0e) is a Trans 9 that lets you cast any up to 8 that you've witnessed.  That's just fine, though rather expensive if you have to go to a magic mart.

Anyspell and Greater Anyspell are Trans, to initiate a non-trans, but I'm pretty sure (sans hash-out) the spell that gets loaded, is it's own separate spell ... i.e. just an enabler.

 
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Miracle is Evocation (= Psychokinesis). 
Deities (DM's?) can get grumpy from over-use, so make an Evocation version of Limited Wish, it's cheaper and less annoying that way. 
Anybody can get the Epic Destiny conversion of Demi-God.  That gets Miracle as an (sp) and self generated = make an item for more boom.
Miracle of Greater Anyspell 6 should / ~ought to be fully converted over to Evocation.
Miracle of Bend Reality psi 8 is a very big stretch, maybe wording might allow it a smidge, idk.  IF so THEN that gets Clairsentience (=Divinations) over to Evoc.


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Re: moving spells from School A to School B
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 12:38:16 PM »
A stickler DM will say, "Sure you treat it as a transmutation, but its still a divination spell or whatever. So you can't share it as a transmutation. After all its still a divination spell. You just get to pretend it isn't because you have a class feature doing a man-in-the-middle attack on it. You haven't actually altered the spell."

This line of thought also instantly fixes erudites et al gaining all teh spellz.