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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2012, 04:01:22 PM »
I'm including no third-party material.  I'm on the fence about unupdated 3.0.

I'll get Dread Tyranny in when I get home from work.   :)

What's your feeling on 2nd party stuff like Dragonlance stuff beyond the Campaign Setting?

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« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2012, 05:30:57 PM »
I'm including no third-party material.  I'm on the fence about unupdated 3.0.

I'll get Dread Tyranny in when I get home from work.   :)

What's your feeling on 2nd party stuff like Dragonlance stuff beyond the Campaign Setting?

Hmmm, I'm on the fence about that too.

I just realized I already have some 3.0 stuff in the guide (Savage Species being a prime example).  If it is unupdated I'll put it in. 

For 2nd party I'd like some input from other people.  I don't have anything against Dragonlance, but I don't know just how much might pour in if I open that door because I don't know what else counts as 2nd party.

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2012, 05:35:50 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.
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« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2012, 05:44:38 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2012, 06:01:04 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

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« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2012, 07:47:29 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

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« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2012, 02:09:38 AM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

they are still work in progress. i've done a smidgen of editing for them, so it still has a way to go, despite having released official product.
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« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2012, 12:22:03 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

they are still work in progress. i've done a smidgen of editing for them, so it still has a way to go, despite having released official product.

Except that they're never going to work on their 3.5 stuff again, they came out and said so.

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2012, 01:43:06 AM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

they are still work in progress. i've done a smidgen of editing for them, so it still has a way to go, despite having released official product.

Except that they're never going to work on their 3.5 stuff again, they came out and said so.

ah, so? link, please?
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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2012, 11:25:40 AM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

they are still work in progress. i've done a smidgen of editing for them, so it still has a way to go, despite having released official product.

Except that they're never going to work on their 3.5 stuff again, they came out and said so.

ah, so? link, please?

The closest to officially declaring it I've ever seen is here.  There's also the fact that no updates to it have been posted since October of 2008.

I'm not adding Athas.org material. 

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2012, 12:23:58 PM »
2nd party is officially licensed stuff.  So, for Dragonlance it's stuff like Age of Mortals, Bestiary of Krynn, etc.  You'll also get athas.org, the Spelljammer stuff, planescape stuff, things like that.

Yeah, but how many books is that?   :P

I'm fairly certain it's the designation for all Dragon and Dungeon Magazine content.

Even if it is I am not going to add every 2nd party publication.  Athas.org is right out for one, they couldn't even edit properly.

they are still work in progress. i've done a smidgen of editing for them, so it still has a way to go, despite having released official product.

Except that they're never going to work on their 3.5 stuff again, they came out and said so.

ah, so? link, please?

The closest to officially declaring it I've ever seen is here.  There's also the fact that no updates to it have been posted since October of 2008.

I'm not adding Athas.org material.

How about http://www.planewalker.com/? It's a bit better.

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2012, 01:54:37 PM »
That isn't even officially licensed...

How about this, I'll accept all Dragonlance stuff, those are officially licensed printed books.

New Rule: If it isn't in a printed book (or magazine in the case of Dragon) I'm not putting it in here.  I've never seen a game that allows Athas.org material, I have seen games that allow Dragonlance and Dragon material.  If there are other sources that I'm missing that are printed and are also officially licensed, let me know.

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2012, 02:00:10 PM »
That isn't even officially licensed...

How about this, I'll accept all Dragonlance stuff, those are officially licensed printed books.

New Rule: If it isn't in a printed book (or magazine in the case of Dragon) I'm not putting it in here.  I've never seen a game that allows Athas.org material, I have seen games that allow Dragonlance and Dragon material.  If there are other sources that I'm missing that are printed and are also officially licensed, let me know.
What about the Kingdoms of Kalamar line?
They were licenced by Wotc and they are printed.....
Also the Diablo 2 campaign setting which was also published by wotc.....

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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2012, 03:01:50 PM »
That isn't even officially licensed...

How about this, I'll accept all Dragonlance stuff, those are officially licensed printed books.

New Rule: If it isn't in a printed book (or magazine in the case of Dragon) I'm not putting it in here.  I've never seen a game that allows Athas.org material, I have seen games that allow Dragonlance and Dragon material.  If there are other sources that I'm missing that are printed and are also officially licensed, let me know.
What about the Kingdoms of Kalamar line?
They were licenced by Wotc and they are printed.....
Also the Diablo 2 campaign setting which was also published by wotc.....

See, this is why I wanted to avoid second party....

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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2012, 03:04:32 PM »
That isn't even officially licensed...

How about this, I'll accept all Dragonlance stuff, those are officially licensed printed books.

New Rule: If it isn't in a printed book (or magazine in the case of Dragon) I'm not putting it in here.  I've never seen a game that allows Athas.org material, I have seen games that allow Dragonlance and Dragon material.  If there are other sources that I'm missing that are printed and are also officially licensed, let me know.
What about the Kingdoms of Kalamar line?
They were licenced by Wotc and they are printed.....
Also the Diablo 2 campaign setting which was also published by wotc.....

See, this is why I wanted to avoid second party....
Funny things is that the Diablo 2 thing is first Party....
It was written and published by wotc and it even has D&d Supplenent on the cover....

Kingdoms of Calamar has the same legitimacy as Dragonlance......

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #75 on: September 16, 2012, 03:09:39 PM »
I'm not adding Diablo 2 or Kingdoms of Kalamar.  I believe that those go beyond the scope of this project.

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« Reply #76 on: September 16, 2012, 03:13:15 PM »
I'm not adding Diablo 2 or Kingdoms of Kalamar.  I believe that those go beyond the scope of this project.
I hope that you din't misunderstood me....
I never said that you should add them....
I just stated the status of these books......

Honestly I don't think that these books have anything that it is worth to add.....

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« Reply #77 on: September 16, 2012, 03:17:03 PM »
The status of those books is why I wanted to avoid second party.  I find almost all second party books to be niche and pointless unless playing in that actual campaign setting.

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Re: X Stat to Y Bonus Discussion Thread
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2012, 12:47:03 AM »
The status of those books is why I wanted to avoid second party.  I find almost all second party books to be niche and pointless unless playing in that actual campaign setting.

How about Dungeon Magazine?

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« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2012, 11:55:48 AM »
The status of those books is why I wanted to avoid second party.  I find almost all second party books to be niche and pointless unless playing in that actual campaign setting.

How about Dungeon Magazine?

I've already got Dragon, I see no problem with adding Dungeon as well.