Min/Max Boards

Hahahahaha oh yes, I'm going to love playing off your hatred of necromancy

Maybe I can will the dwarf to block dangerous things with his head in a subtle way.... that's dwarf like behavior.
Although with your intimidate maybe I'll just pretend you're not doing necromancy so it doesn't bother me... living in denial.

Meanwhile, the axes will be annoyed at you for being so inattentive, whilst you'll probably dislike them for being illiterate.

If someone points things out to me I'll help...otherwise I'll just be over here reading myself.


I'm thinking about swapping out greater spell pen for Knowledge Devotion, I mean I can autopass that DC 36 for a +5, so giving life and death a +5 (insight bonus) to hit and damage would be awesome...but would the dwarf...and thus the weapons gain this? I guess I can imagine it as a Knowledge Arcana check of 36+ resulting in me telling the dwarf telepathically about the foe.

Thoughts on this?

Suppose I should spend 50gp on like... a satchel and chain to stay attached to the Barbarian.

Any ideas for the spellbook? It's a whole lot of wealth and I can really think of are Relic books, Tomes of Worldly Memory and then the stat increasing books.

Not really what I'm aiming at. I think I'm going for mostly buffing spells and divinations in terms of my spells known though.

It works best on Warforged creatures named Phyrexians serving your Lich

Or as the citizens refer to them "City Guards"

perfect for the Lawful Evil society, cold, efficient, obedient.

I'm a Mathemagician.

What comes to mind for me is playing the Barbarian's Spellbook... an intelligent talking book (masterwork tool for knowledge arcana checks) that uses illusion spells to explain things to the illiterate barbarian, a picture book. Makes knowledge checks, cast spells, supports. 

Spellfire?

Charnel Fire? Although this ones a bit of a stretch... it's not really normal fire though.

Quote from: Kasz on May 02, 2014, 06:30:11 AM

I've also just noticed that A Cheshire Cat is a +3 LA Small Fey that casts as a 3rd level sorc, In E6, LA just reduces your point buy... so I guess you could take 6 levels of sorcerer and be a 9th level sorcerer in E6? That's probably getting banned.

Speaking of, Sharn's ECL9 acceptable in E6? 4HD/5LA.

The reason why would be of course the 6th level Sorcerer and Favored Soul Spellcasting, also seven arms & three bites with the allowance to make one attack per point of Dexterity per provoked AoO. You know, to have your cake and eat it too.

LA 5 is too much for E6, LA 4 takes the point buy down to 0 point buy anyway.

Rules... Basically the ball was a minor weirdstone, wrapped in antimagic runes and cold iron metal bands and spikes. The effect was the ball negated magic of all sorts. If you teleported the ball would be left behind, the ball couldn't be targeted with magic, telekinesis'd or transformed. Spells just didn't work on it, although scrying on the pitch still allowed you to see the ball, unlike a normal weirdstone that blocks scrying.

You could throw the ball, teleport and catch it... if you're able to do all those things and make appropriate checks.

The pitch had four walls of shaped dispel magic. So whenever you entered or left the field, spells would be negated, so no-prebuffing off the pitch, a spellcaster could buff you on the pitch but teams only get one spellcaster. These shaped dispel walls also allowed spectators to view the match without risk of outside interference with the game or spectator casualties from spells...as spells passing through fizzled out.

The team was allowed 6 members, One Large, One Spellcaster, Four Players. Teams also needed at least 6 more players in reserve.

No direct assaults were allowed, no weapons, no direct damage spells. You could attack the guy with the ball as a "tackle" which is unarmed attack, trying to trip him, disarm him, grapple him or just forcing him to make a "Handle Ball" skill check DC 10+damage dealt.
Disarm meant you could take the ball, a failed handle made the ball fumble. If you had an AoO left you could make a catch check on a fumbled ball.

A direct assault was a foul, if a foul was called it would either turnover possession of the ball if your team had it and your team fouled someone or if your team didn't have the ball and your team fouled someone it'd stop and restart play with the enemy team gaining 5-10 yards depending on the severity of the foul. Players making fouls can be given yellow/red cards and sent off the pitch for the rest of the game. Although you can replace them with reserves.
Sometimes referees let fouls go, if it was funny enough, impressive enough, sneaky enough or if you had bribed the ref. I broke someone's spine after making an impressive Perform (Showmanship) check to get the crowd on my side, sprinted, made a jump check and drop kicked the orc in the back for huge damage, which resulted in a major injury, broken spine. I ended that orc's career.

We used a toughness and injury system stolen from Warhammer, basically your toughness was 25% of your HP total + Con mod. Damage under this amount didn't injure you (but you still took the damage). Damage equal to 1 less than double was a minor injury, damage double or over was a major injury. We used these charts

You could prepare a block, allowed you to take a 5ft step before an attack of opportunity if someone was running with the ball.
You could tackle on your turn, although no charging.
You could double move, but if you did you had to make a handle ball check for the second move, DC was a base 10 I think, but got higher if you kept doing it every turn, or if you were hit.
Pitch was 100ft, we had a runner with a 50ft move, he was good...but not too good.

We did initiatives like this: Everyone rolls, highest goes first, then highest from other team, then alternating. 
 
Team A Player 1
Team B Player 1
Team A Player 2
Team B Player 2
Team A Player 3
Team B Player 3

and so on, for fairness. We found just rolling initiatives could sometimes cluster actions.. which was hard to react against.

Passing the ball was an attack roll, thrown weapon. Catching was a skill check, Dex based.
If the passer missed we rolled scatter dice, 1d8 for direction, 1d6 for distance.
If the ball was within 5ft of the catcher he could make a catch and move to that square as an attack of opportunity.
If it was within 10ft he could make a jump check, if successful he could move to that square, make a catch and become prone, as an attack of opportunity.
The "AC" of a pass was 20. The DC for a catch was 20. If the pass "hit" then the catcher got a +2 bonus.
Catch rules were used for intercepts too, again, attack of opportunity.

I can't remember if anything else was relevant. Refs were a goblin syndicate and never set foot on the pitch (so they couldn't be attacked or distracted), more like a tennis umpire but in an antimagic observation room. They and others scryed in to watch like T.V. on projected screens from crystal balls.

My team, the Hellraisers from a swamp town called Fungus Rot was:

Captain: Floki - my Factotum 3/Monk 2/Chameleon 1 - Kung Fu Genius allowed him to be INT based, giving lots of skill points, Int to Dex/Str skills, adding Int to damage to unarmed and using the invisible fist ACF. I wasn't the team spellcaster but on days where we didn't play bloodbowl I could basically be a wizard. (Character referenced Loki hard)

Large Character: Goliath Barbarian with Quick, resulting in a 50ft move speed hulk of mass, was also our thrower, with brutal throw and looking at Hulking Hurler.

Spellcaster: Gnome Beguiler, illusions and enchantments are handy because they're not direct assault spells.

Player: Bruce Ree, Human monk, lost a leg in our second game, we got him a demon graft... yeah oh Grafts are against the rules, so we disguise it when we play.

Player: Human Ninja, uses sleight of hand to sneak attack with a concealed blade, not too often but she can hamstring a star player. Player is aware this tactic can come back on her ten fold in the future.

Player: Dwarf Barbarian, solid, sturdy and gross, just beats the hell out of people...I'm not sure he's ever held the ball... but he did take a dump on a goblin on the pitch in our first game.

We have some subs too...
Our team doctor is a plague doctor, heavy german accent, performed the flesh graft...no ethics.
We have a medium sized Goblin on our reserves, an orc warblade, a barbarian with lolth-touched I think but reflavoured for Kord...also he has a sight flaw, if it's not within 5ft it's blurry and he basically can't see.
We tried to recruit an Ent... but not very hard, we haven't found one yet.

Other Teams include:
Ogre Mound Titans - Don't know how but these guys somehow got approved despite their team being just Ogres, all large, bastards.

The Sea-Atle Sea-Orcs - mostly Water Orcs, some other aqua races. They're from a Port town named Atle-by-the-Sea, Sea-Atle for short.

The Grunkle Grabbers - Orcs and Goblins, we crushed them in our first test game, DM gave all the goblins combat reflexes and they were a bigger pain in the arse than the orcs.


Our games were a bit... long, like a few hours to score a touchdown.... generally we said that the bit we played was just a snippet of the game, and we usually just played one entire 5 hour session as the game. Our Schedule would be like.... Pre game session, game session, post game session, story sessions, pre game session..... and so on.

Alright... we did like 8 sessions over 8 weeks and I think people finally agreed with me that D&D isn't the perfect system to recreate bloodbowl.

Was sorta fun though, I got to play a factotum in the end... social skills and politics and sleight of hand and dubious morality. Wasn't bad... I couldn't stop some of my teams smash first, ask questions never policies though, but I kept getting the blame shifted onto others, which was fun.

I lifted about 4,000gold off a mobster who happened to also be an Ogre... and shifted the blame onto his Gnome accountant... the next time we came to town his Tavern had been renamed the Gnome's Head. It was decorated with his Gnome's head.
Funnily enough we recruited this big norse berserker who turned out to be almost legally blind...anything past 5ft was blurry as hell. He accidentally decapitated this gnome on the field... when my stupid players asked him to meet us at the Tavern he asked "which one?"
"The gnome's head" and I facepalmed, the DM laughed and described this huge hulking bloke start crying again. Then they realised what they just said.

I had a time sensitive dungeon once where there was a trap laden hallway and the thing was sinking underwater. There were no "enemies" (some npcs) but I had a battle map and initiative order because I didn't want shit like: 
"you three hit a trap"
"no I wouldn't be near him, I was like, over here"

There were other people around (factions racing for artifacts) so when I said, roll for initiative one of my players says "I have quick draw, so can I stab this guy in the surprise round?"
"Well, the building has just started rumbling, shaking and dust is pouring from the ceiling, are you sure?" "yes" - Proceeds to sneak attack and kill one of the factions hired henchmen who was a level 4 commoner, just hired to carry heavy bags.

I asked my players to roll initiative after that and re-described the shaking and rumbling. An NPC won the initiative and I described him looking around in panic, screaming "The temple is sinking!" before running.

The stab happy player realised that he just stabbed someone as a gut reaction to being asked to roll initiative and was a little... perturbed (he wasn't evil aligned.)

So yeah, they didn't metagame the initiative roll much after that encounter.