Are we rebooting the game or continuing from where we were?I'd planned on picking up just after the (imaginary) encounter with the male winter wolf/white buffalo. You can use the old version of your puppeteer, if you want... No need to "upgrade". I approved the first one, after all. :eh
After adjusting my character sheet I'm no longer able to charm winter wolves. :(
Are we rebooting the game or continuing from where we were?I'd planned on picking up just after the (imaginary) encounter with the male winter wolf/white buffalo. You can use the old version of your puppeteer, if you want... No need to "upgrade". I approved the first one, after all. :eh
After adjusting my character sheet I'm no longer able to charm winter wolves. :(
Can someone post the character sheet template please?Is there one? I just assumed I'd put it in Mythweavers.
I'll be out of town on vacation for the whole week of Thanksgiving. This will mean I post less than normal. So this probably won't get off the ground till some time after that.No problem, I'm really busy. I just signed up for a research study, and I'm starting to get a few more math tutoring clients now that final exams are on the horizon.
Can I use the greyhawk Minotaur as my base race? IIRC it has a ecl 1?I'm sure it will probably be OK, but could you post the stats?
Krynn Minotaur: +4 str, -2 dex, -2 int, -2 cha; medium; 30 ft.; fighter; humanoid (minotaur); Dragonlance Campaign Setting pg. 42Go ahead and use the full stats as posted here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1699.msg16502#msg16502).
Excellent, so is that a ECL 0 or 1? I usually dont play psionic characters. But your game sounds so good Im gonna go out of my comfort zone :D I will prob just go straight psychic warrior for the first few levels to keep it simple. Probably going with a spear or spiked chain. Just a general swiss army knife meat shield type build :PIt's LA 0. I can help you with a build, if you want, but straight psiwarrior is fine. Or you could post a thread on it in the min-max section. There are a lot of people who are big fans of psionics who I'm sure would be happy to help you out.
Yeah, sorry about that.No problem. I'll try to take a look at your char sheet when I get a chance. I PMed Tshern. If I don't hear back from him within a day or two, we'll just go ahead without him.
All ready to go now :)
As a guy sloooooowly building a frontliner, some BFC is always welcome! Endure elements is probably something we're gonna need anyway, so that'd be a plus too.
I am also something of a knowledge monkey. Got a flat +10 bonus to all knowledges and can do checks untrained, which is nice. I put some more emphasis on a couple of skills, but what I have now is a decent start. Due to being Warforger, my social skills are a bit subpar though.You're going to be a warforged? Hmm... this could be interesting. :D I hadn't even thought how they'd fit into this civilization. I might have you be a relic from the past, unearthed (by someone... we'll decide/discuss later). Reminds me of my character here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=341.msg1712#msg1712) a bit.
Aye, a Warforged. The idea is that he was build to be a cash machine for a greedy dragon, who did not survive his twilight. I think twilight (not the books or movies, damnit!) was described in Draconomicon. Anyway, the dragon died and the cash machine left, but could not leave his programming behind and is constantly calculating wealth, probabilities and whatnot.Sounds like fun. :D
You know, now I'm wondering... is there anything stopping me from taking 1 level in 20 classes and just picking up class abilities like candy? I'm sure I can find 20 classes/PrCs with the sort of abilities I'd like to add to my character...Go for it. Discounting things with "advanced progression", like Ur-Priest, at ECL 20 you're going to wind up with a character with 10 sets of class abilities that are all level appropriate for ECL 10. Right? You can probably make something useful out of that, but I think it would be hard to make something overpowered. Or am I missing something?
# If you get an ability twice (Evasion, Telepathy, etc), we'll let them stack in whatever manner seems appropriate. So Evasion twice would upgrade to Improved Evasion. Telepathy twice would likely just add the ranges, etc.
# Half racial hit dice count towards class progressions, for all purposes.
# Likewise, half the levels in non-manifesting/casting classes will add to your caster/manifester progression, for all purposes including powers known, power points, ML, etc. So a psion 2/fighter 2 would manifest powers as a psion 3. This will work for most other abilities too, like Binding (ToM Binder), sneak attack progression, etc. We'll look at each on a case-by-case basis.
Ah, ok. I was thinking of adding up the class abilities of Unseen Seer, Crystal Master, Elocator... lol. Not the manifesting, though, I was thinking that the progression there was more of a gestalt kinda thing.I was thinking this would work for things that could be basically evaluated as a formula (sneak attack = 1/2 rogue level, etc). For those things, "other" classes besides the one you got the ability from would add 1/2 their levels to the calculation, with a cap of what a single-classed character of that class of your level would have.
In that case, I'll probably stick to just Unseen Seer for a PrC for 10 of my levels, but the other 10 will certainly get more interesting...
What about Racial Paragon Classes? I was planning on picking up Xeph Paragon.
haha I thought I had it. But then I got confused :bigeyes I will probably just stay single class until I PRC or something idk.. I guess it just depends on how fast we level :P No since in planning my build out to farBasically the idea was if you're a rogue 1/fighter 8, you'd have sneak attack of 3d6 instead of 1d6, because half your fighter levels add to your rogue levels for calculating it.
haha I thought I had it. But then I got confused :bigeyes I will probably just stay single class until I PRC or something idk.. I guess it just depends on how fast we level :P No since in planning my build out to farBasically the idea was if you're a rogue 1/fighter 8, you'd have sneak attack of 3d6 instead of 1d6, because half your fighter levels add to your rogue levels for calculating it.
Or for another example, if you progress as follows for your first 8 levels:
psion 1
fighter 1-6
psion 2
When you hit psion 2 (at ECL 8), you could pick two 3rd level powers instead of 1st level ones, as your manifester level would be 5 (counting half your fighter levels) for the purpose of determining your max power level (and when you manifest powers, try to beat spell/power resistance, etc). You'd also calculate your power points as if you were a 5th level psion instead of a 2nd level one. You wouldn't get a bonus feat, though, as you didn't actually take the 5th level of psion. (And likewise no dipping fighter for 1 level to get the bonus feats of a fighter 10 at 20th level :P ).
@X-codes: Yeah, that sounds correct, though I don't know much about Factotums. So that might not be the best example to use for me. ;)
Sorry, it was my birthday, I was sort of absent. I will try to finish the charactertomorrow as I am packing.Happy (late) birthday!
Sorry, it was my birthday, I was sort of absent. I will try to finish the charactertomorrow as I am packing.
Could be. At least I can now go home for a month.Sorry, it was my birthday, I was sort of absent. I will try to finish the charactertomorrow as I am packing.
You move around too much. :p
I'm not a fan of any of the Improved Elan [Feature] feats. Shared Vigor is over 2x as PP efficient as Improved Resilience. Improved Resistance is just an extra +2 bonus when you use your already-cool ability, and Improved Repletion is just obviously terrible.
I think I like your ranged minotaur build with your melee minotaur stats and Brutal Throw instead of Psionic Body.
Here you go. (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=861.msg20600#msg20600) I like this better than my original "Olympic Thrower" combat feat, anyway.I'm not a fan of any of the Improved Elan [Feature] feats. Shared Vigor is over 2x as PP efficient as Improved Resilience. Improved Resistance is just an extra +2 bonus when you use your already-cool ability, and Improved Repletion is just obviously terrible.
I think I like your ranged minotaur build with your melee minotaur stats and Brutal Throw instead of Psionic Body.
that sounds pretty cool, probably will go with it :D
I think Garryl made a homebrew PrC that progressed both ToB and psionics...
Don't forget about the old Psionic Material Compilation (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=9161.0) that Prime set up around when this game was first recruiting. IIRC, Nanshork was playing a Puppeteer from there, and it also has the Psionic Summoner that someone else was using.Might I inquire as to your thoughts on the use of the Sublime Ranger (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19519074/Sublime_Way_Variant_Ranger&post_num=1#331675810) for this campaign?Bump, and once answered, it'll be up in a few hours. I'm looking at a ranger / psy war (yay sorta-wis synergy!).
Yeah, that's fine. IIRC, Garryl did a homebrew PrC that progressed both manifesting and initiator levels. I'll see if I can find a link. If so, you're welcome to use it, if you like.
Nah, I never did psionic/martial adept, only martial adept/binder (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=12813) and Swordsagey/Cleric-type (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=12231) (both at your indirect request, IIRC). Everyone and his brother seemed to have that particular unfilled niche covered. But if you're ever looking for another sort of class to let your concept work, just give me a holler. I might have it already (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=241) ::shameless plug::.
Actually, not your fault; he DOES have a psionic warblade (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1058), which I've been toying about asking about. And if someone else was looking in that direction, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to point it out.... Might be interesting for a psionic swiftblade....Holy crap, that is awesome! I'd forgotten about that, but now I want to use one! :D
Actually, not your fault; he DOES have a psionic warblade (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1058), which I've been toying about asking about. And if someone else was looking in that direction, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to point it out.... Might be interesting for a psionic swiftblade....Holy crap, that is awesome! I'd forgotten about that, but now I want to use one! :D
So shall it be allowed, so shall it be done.Actually, not your fault; he DOES have a psionic warblade (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1058), which I've been toying about asking about. And if someone else was looking in that direction, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to point it out.... Might be interesting for a psionic swiftblade....Holy crap, that is awesome! I'd forgotten about that, but now I want to use one! :D
It's new, although it was an idea I had half-written for several months. Let me know how it goes if you use it, okay?
It's certainly allowed, if anyone wants to play it. I do worry a bit that it will be overpowered compared to a straight psiwarrior, though. What concerns me most from what I saw was Expansion as a stance.So shall it be allowed, so shall it be done.Actually, not your fault; he DOES have a psionic warblade (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1058), which I've been toying about asking about. And if someone else was looking in that direction, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to point it out.... Might be interesting for a psionic swiftblade....Holy crap, that is awesome! I'd forgotten about that, but now I want to use one! :D
It's new, although it was an idea I had half-written for several months. Let me know how it goes if you use it, okay?
Just had a 64 hour blackout, so I was unable to comment on anything. Sorry about that.Ouch. No problem. I just spent the day in Key West. I was tempted to buy a "What would Blackbeard do?" T-shirt, but resisted the urge. Now I'm regretting it. :cool
All I know is, Tash does NOT have darkvision, but has a torch if we're not being sneaky. Which we probably aren't, if we're meeting in some remote-ass region with some new recruits.Wood is quite rare. So torches would likely be made differently (rags soaked in wax, wrapped around a piece of iron, or something), but still be available in some form.
Hi guys, hope you had a good Christmas and New Year.I have not familiarized myself with the internal roller, but if you want to use that, it's fine. I typically use invisible castle.
I think I've ballsed up the dice rolling, you seem to use some external site and not the [roll] command?
Opps sorry!Nah, it's OK. You'll hear them at some point or other. ;)
Apparently I posted my reply while extremely tired and dont really remember it,... anyways I say this because I replied as if I might have heard something. Which Im not sure is the case yet.. If it is going towards all of the party meeting up and getting things started though, then Im assuming it wouldnt really matter.
Anyways, Phae lemme know if you would like me to re-edit my post some.
As for the torch, I suppose I should have checked it with you before hand, but it's become so second nature to him. There's an item called liquid sunlight from CScoundrel, glows like a torch. Would those exist?Sure. They'd be more common than torches made of actual wood. :D
We seem to be waiting on Nanshork/Tetch.
We seem to be waiting on Nanshork/Tetch.
^
In character I have spoke to them and they havent replied or anything yet
Phaedrus, I'm assuming I'm supposed to report to somebody?You weren't given specific names or descriptions, or even numbers, but there is a specific pass-phrase and answer that the... let's give them a name that they use for themselves... how about "Visionaires?" There is a passphrase and answer that the Visionaires use to recognize each other. Let's say it is:
Was it something I said?I'm waiting on you guys. :P
Nice to know it isn't dead. :D
Nice to know it isn't dead. :D*Pokes Phaedrus with a stick* You sure it's not dead?
Nice to know it isn't dead. :D*Pokes Phaedrus with a stick* You sure it's not dead?
Still trying to get over this sinus infection... and suffering from lack of sleep... so I feel like I'm more dead than alive...Nice to know it isn't dead. :D*Pokes Phaedrus with a stick* You sure it's not dead?
Perhaps it is...undead!
Yeah, I'm feeling better, and just applied for a major promotion at work. So wish me luck! :D
GLHF! Get that!Yeah, I'm feeling better, and just applied for a major promotion at work. So wish me luck! :D
Good luck!
Sorry guys. Just been too busy to make an update.
Would I have seen these things before, or anything similar?Uhh... where is your character sheet? It would probably take a knowledge check. I'll calculate the DC in a bit.
Do Cujo/ I recognize them any?They weren't here the last time Cujo was here. Did I say you'd been in here yourself? I forgot... I think I said you took over the dog in here, didn't I? If so, they weren't here the last time you were here.
Do Cujo/ I recognize them any?They weren't here the last time Cujo was here. Did I say you'd been in here yourself? I forgot... I think I said you took over the dog in here, didn't I? If so, they weren't here the last time you were here.
Sure.I don't think we ever figured that out actually, if we did then I've forgotten.Do Cujo/ I recognize them any?They weren't here the last time Cujo was here. Did I say you'd been in here yourself? I forgot... I think I said you took over the dog in here, didn't I? If so, they weren't here the last time you were here.
Shall we do that in PMs now? :p
Let's kill something! I mean, let's go on. :D
I might not get to post actions for theformiansant-men till later tonight.
I don't have the DSP books, Nanshork. So let us know what you find. We can also house rule if something doesn't make sense.
All of Tetch's communication is mental. He's a slug. :PI thought you might not. :lol
Edit: I'm also at a complete loss as to how to respond to that. I don't even remember why we're here in the first place.
Does the name Centarus mean anything to Tetch?You might have heard Thorston mention the name, but it's not someone you ever met or heard anything much about. You think he was another mage.
I'm not complaining. I'm just impressed. :D It will force me to think about just how much your character will know about things I'd assumed that no one would have access to, at least until later in the campaign. But that's not a problem.(click to show/hide)
Does this party even need a dedicated healer?Does any party? :P
I have a healing belt, but that's the extent of my ability to stitch my own injuries.Same here.
Two questions. A) phaedrus, can I rebuild Tetch? I haven't used a single one of his class abilities so far. I'll keep him as a puppeteer and everything! (As long as you're okay with me running around dominating fun things. :P)That's fine with me, if you rebuild him.
B) This will sound bad, but this game seems to be on the verge of going kaput. What's up with that?
I assume you'd prefer I rebuild him after combat? :pYeah... well, that would probably be good. If you can get powers known selected quickly, you could go ahead and run with the new one, though.
I have to ask, is Thrallherd allowed? I know I can't take it now, but I want to know if I can take it if the game lasts long enough.Hmm... I somewhat reluctantly approve Thrallherd. I reserve the rights to full control over who/what your Thralls and Believers are, though, and their actions. Though in practice I will likely leave all of that to you, unless I disagree with something. I'd prefer your believers to not be carted around with you everywhere, though. They'll probably be more useful as a network of spies or something, anyway.
Edit: Are you okay with unlimited out of combat healing? It would be 1 HP as a standard action touch power with no cost and it would take me two feats to do this.
Tetch is rebuilt as a Psion (Telepath). I'm using the Dreamscarred Press wiki as the source for all of my powers (it pretty much ignores all Complete Psionics nerfs, let me know if you want me to use those). Tetch also took the Hidden Talent feat to get his unlimited healing power, just an fyi.Linky no worky. :p
Look over the sheet and tell me if there's anything wrong with it.
Lastly, is your ruling on the Metalink prestige class found here (http://ftp://78.227.245.147/Dreamscarred%20Press/The%20Mind%20Unveiled/The%20Mind%20Unveiled%20-%20Prestige%20Classes.pdf)?
Could we get an updated map?Yeah, it worked, but I haven't had time to look at it, really. :P
Also, did the new link work or should I fine another new one?
So, about that map....Yeah, sorry... have had a really hard time finding... well, time.
Did you still want Tetch to go or are you rolling Cujo and Tetch into the same initiative count? I'm okay either way.I guess technically they should have separate initiatives. Go ahead. Sorry. :P
How about this. This round they go separately so Tetch can go.I'm going to say yes. You might want to suppress the display, though. Otherwise they might get a clue. :P
Next round (and forever after) put them both on Tetch's count since Tetch is directing Cujo anyway. That'll make things way easier (and if anything is kind of a nerf to me). Sound good?
Edit: It doesn't matter right now but manifesting only provokes an AOO if the enemy actually knows that Tetch is a creature who's doing stuff and where he is, right?
Just a head's up: I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow morning, and won't be back till after the July 4th weekend. I might be able to post a bit during then, but I can't guarantee it.
Yeah... I realized just how damn many PbPs I was in when I went to post this in all of them... :lmao And I actually skipped a couple, just because I knew the people in them would have already seen this... :tongueJust a head's up: I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow morning, and won't be back till after the July 4th weekend. I might be able to post a bit during then, but I can't guarantee it.
How many more times am I going to have to read this? :P
Yeah... I realized just how damn many PbPs I was in when I went to post this in all of them... :lmao And I actually skipped a couple, just because I knew the people in them would have already seen this... :tongueJust a head's up: I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow morning, and won't be back till after the July 4th weekend. I might be able to post a bit during then, but I can't guarantee it.
How many more times am I going to have to read this? :P
I PM'd him. He hasn't been on the website in a week. If he doesn't show up in a day or two, I'll move on without him.Sorry about the delay, I have barely had time to come home to grab a shower. I'll post now.
Be aware, Tetch only had to make the save if he was specifically targeted.Hmm... it's an area affect illusion spell (pattern). I guess he isn't affected.
Okay, so that's our 3rd 15 in a row. When does Bloody Mary show up and deal our level x d20 sanity damage? :D:lmao
Be aware, Tetch only had to make the save if he was specifically targeted.Hmm... it's an area affect illusion spell (pattern). I guess he isn't affected.
Phaedrus has invited me to play along with you guys in this game. I was thinking of putting together a Kalashtar soul manifester (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20060217a). I've never used incarnum before, so I'm really interested in play testing it. Also, from everything I've read it blends wonderfully with psionics. Does this seem alright to the rest of you, or is there a particular void you'd like filled?5th level psion/4th level incarnate. I'm not sure how we'll do the dual progression classes... I hadn't really thought about how they'd interact with my new system. :P I think we'll cap the progressions at your character level.
Phae, if I did something like psion 4/incarnate 2, would I be treated as a 5th level psion and a 4th level incarnate? Or just a 2nd level incarnate?