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Title: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 08, 2012, 10:35:57 PM
Noticed we didn't have a thread dedicated to sports, and now there is one.  Though I have a feeling football (soccer) and hockey are going to be the onnly two heavily discussed.

First question: favorite team(s)!

Me, I'm a Boston/Chicago/San Fransico area team guy, hockey and footbal (football).  Favorite is hockey, and football (football) is a close second, and football (soccer) is a not too distant third.  And US for international, though Finland and Norway are my two favorite non-US hockey clubs.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on March 08, 2012, 10:47:04 PM
I like football (eagles) & baseball (phillies).  Hockey, soccer, etc. just don't do it for me... I like the more cerebral games.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Arz on March 09, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
Football: Steelers & Barcelona
Basketball: Dayton Flyers (I hate the pros and there rules about defense)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on March 09, 2012, 01:50:18 PM
Football -- Stillers  ("steelers", for the uninitiated)
Hockey -- Penguins (Sid's back this weekend -- fuck yeah! :cloud9)


I like football (eagles) & baseball (phillies).
:chairhit
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on March 09, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
I like football (eagles) & baseball (phillies).
:chairhit

Hey, man -- the Eagles have a big case of Steeler envy.  You guys are the model franchise in PA.  I have nothing against the steelers unless we're actively playing them.

So I am offended by your emoticon, and am expressing my anger in the most civilized and non-aggressive way possible, just like the rest of Eagles fans everywhere.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on March 09, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
 :lol :lmao


oh, what was that about envy (http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/jlibert130/champs.jpg)? :p
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on March 09, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
Noticed we didn't have a thread dedicated to sports, and now there is one.  Though I have a feeling football (soccer) and hockey are going to be the onnly two heavily discussed.

First question: favorite team(s)!

Me, I'm a Boston/Chicago/San Fransico area team guy, hockey and footbal (football).  Favorite is hockey, and football (football) is a close second, and football (soccer) is a not too distant third.  And US for international, though Finland and Norway are my two favorite non-US hockey clubs.
Norway? Seriously? I still hold a grudge, because we played a draw against them in the first game of the 1996 world championship games.

Personally I support Finland, then Russia. Everything else is secondary as long as Sweden loses. I also follow NHL quite keenly and my favourite team is Detroit Red Wings. I also like Anaheim, although their current season has been shit. Their first offensive line is so good they ought to do heaps more goals. Doesn't hurt that it's the home of four Finns, one whom just became, methinks, number 18 in the all-time NHL scoring statistics. Fuck, that guy is the real life Superman.

For football, I follow Champions League and the international tournaments. Apart from that I have little interest for it.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 09, 2012, 06:30:44 PM
Finland because they're awesome (you have a not so small amount to do with that, too), Norway because I'm a viking.  At least a bit, but I'm proud of that herritage.

I used to like Anaheim, but that was only because of a specific player: Paul Kariya.  Now I'm pretty much forced to at least dislike them, because of the Sharks.  And same with Detroit, I'm a Chicago fan, so by default I'm not a fan of the Redwings.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: bhu on March 09, 2012, 07:21:40 PM
Noticed we didn't have a thread dedicated to sports, and now there is one.  Though I have a feeling football (soccer) and hockey are going to be the onnly two heavily discussed.



No ferret legging?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 09, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Well, of course.  Also shin kicking, and that one with the cheese wheel, and the one where the town kills each other.  But those aren't exactly televised.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on March 09, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
i hear ravenclaw has a good team this year  :lol
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 09, 2012, 08:13:16 PM
Hawkeyes.  Because I'm in college.

It's hard to follow what you guys call Football here, because this place pretty much follows Football, Basketball, Collegiate Wrestling, and there are enough rednecks around to justify some Nascar (not it's existence, just it's discussion/display in public forums).
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 09, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
You're a Hawkeye?  I'm afraid I must hate you now.  ISU!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on March 09, 2012, 08:17:12 PM
Finland because they're awesome (you have a not so small amount to do with that, too), Norway because I'm a viking.  At least a bit, but I'm proud of that herritage.

I used to like Anaheim, but that was only because of a specific player: Paul Kariya.  Now I'm pretty much forced to at least dislike them, because of the Sharks.  And same with Detroit, I'm a Chicago fan, so by default I'm not a fan of the Redwings.
Paul Kariya was awesome, especially when he used to play with Teemu Selänne. Bloody amazing that duo was. The reason I really support the Finnish team is their team work, instead of stacking their team with NHL stars, they play as a team. Last year's world championship games against Russia? That was what I am talking about.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on March 11, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
I used to be a Hockey fan.
The NJ Devils neutral zone trap / grab and hold game, sucked.
Then I noticed hits that were illegal in Football, like really illegal.
Then I noticed hits that were illegal in MMA ... at twice the speed of an Olympic sprinter.
Now they have Goons dying from brain injuries in their early 30s,
that Boxers and football Lineman get in their 50s.

Sid probably can't play again.
Gretsky would be sliced in half, during a game.
Some Canadian youth leagues have low contact rules.
I'll wait until the whole game including the pros, get that way.
The old Soviet game was played on larger rinks and minimal contact.

And somebody has to make it work on TV.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 11, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
?  They have more rules against contact and are less lenient about dangerous hits now.  The announcers actually complain about it from time to time (and in some cases I agree with them, more specifically on the wrap-up rule).  But anyways, typically, the players are safe from injury, thanks to the pads and stuff.  And when they aren't, there's usually a penalty.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on March 11, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
Diehard Cubs fan here(at this point - over a hundred years since their last WS championship - is there any other kind?).  I'm a Bears fan as well, but given the choice, I'll watch baseball over football.  I'll watch hockey, but I got into it late, so it's not "in my blood" like the other two sports.  I'm not tall enough to be a basketball fan  :P.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 11, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Bears?  Cubs?  Are you a masochist or something?

EDIT: On second thought, don't answer that...

EDIT 2: First postseason appearance for the Hawkeye Basketball team in 6 years!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: johnboy069 on March 13, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
I am originally from Indiana, so I am a life long Colts fan. I also like UFC (Matt Hughes and Randy Couture are my faves), and I watch racing (some NASCAR, but it is getting boring; and I love the racing formats on the SPEED channel).
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on March 14, 2012, 06:09:08 PM
I am not a Washington Redskins fan, but ...
they're gonna take the Baylor QB.  And gave
up 3 1s and a 2, to get him.  Meanwhile
they got busted about $36 million of their
salary cap.  They'll suck for quite a while.

St. Louis Rams are laughing all the way to the bank ... literally too.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 18, 2012, 12:22:42 AM
So I found out something interesting about college hockey today.  Division 1 has one of its conferences dissolving, and two new ones coming in.  ONe of them: Big 10.  Yes, that Big 10.  So Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, etc. are all going to be facing teams like Maine and BC.  NOt only that, but Notre Dame is joining Hockey East.  Its regular season is going to be filled with battling against the best of division 1.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 19, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
I wonder if this will be enough to make me a Hockey fan...

Eh, maybe collegiate hockey.  The NHL barely even pretends that their sport is anything more than a street fight on ice skates.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 19, 2012, 12:03:47 PM
hooray!  Manning is not going to Frisco!  This means we can keep Smith and actually be good next year!

He's going to Denver according to the news that just aired (literally seconds ago), so I even get the added "screw you!" to Tebow.  DOn't think I could have chosen a better place for him.  Just.....just please.....somebody I don't care about take Tebow......
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 21, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
I wonder what would happen if Denver did this and then moved Tebow to WR/TB...

That could actually be pretty scary to defend against with a Manning at QB.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on March 21, 2012, 01:32:35 PM
Nope, Tebow just got traded to the Jets.  Weird...
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 21, 2012, 01:36:41 PM
Yeah... don't the Jets HAVE a good QB?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 21, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
Tebow=running back.  he needs to run with the ball.  If that were to happen, he'd be amazing.  I'm not sure if he can catch or not, but if he could, then yeah, tight end probably, not WR.

On QBs: they are getting so shuffled right now that I'm not sure who's staying where.  Brady's still at NE at least, but....everyone else?

I really hope Smith stays with the Niners.  They should have won this last season, it just....the Giants got lucky.  So imagine a more experienced version of that team next year.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on March 21, 2012, 01:45:05 PM
Smith signed a 3-year deal with the niners, so I think you're ok.

I dunno if I'd call Sanchez GOOD, but he's not awful.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on March 21, 2012, 01:53:21 PM
hooray!  Manning is not going to Frisco!  This means we can keep Smith and actually be good next year!
harbaugh can easily get kaepernick or tolzien to match awex' production of last year. we're talkin' about 3000 yards, 17 touchdowns and a horrible 3rd down statistic. and don't give me turnovers... dude took so many sacks in so few pass attempts, it's not even funny. manning would have made the niners the super bowl favorites (on paper). but well... peyton obviously didn't want the pressure to go up against the superior competition in the nfc. as a niners fan you can only hope that kaep beats out smith in training camp.

btw: LOL @ Saints and Jets
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on March 21, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
In a small-scale look, the University of Iowa recruits a lot of Quarterbacks and then moves them to wide receiver, so it seems that it's a relatively easy transition for a generic QB to make.  So yeah... Tebow could be a better player on offense just about anywhere *except* QB.  We can't be the only people that realize this, so I think the deal might be as simple as Tebow doesn't *want* to play anything other than QB.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 21, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
That might be it.  I mean, who gets all the benefits (aka, money and fame)?  The supporting players, or the QB?  Not that I'm saying he's greedy, but still.  After watching that guy run, he really can run with the ball.  He just isn't a good QB.  Or linesman, not really built for that one, so you have to cut that out of the running for him.

I wouldn't say that about Alex.  See, I think more of the problem was an inexperienced offensive line.  The entire one.  He got better as the season went on, so I think next year it'll be great, especially with that defense.  Although there is no doubt that they do need a better offense.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on March 22, 2012, 05:58:03 PM
Somebody has to re-write the
Charlie Daniels song: The Devil Went Down To Georgia
... into something like: The Tebow Went Up To NewYork.


{ ... insert can't find the appropriate half-jesus smiley face ... }
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 07, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
Two hockey related things happening today: first, it's the final day of the regular season for the NHL.  Hockey all day!  Second, it's the NCAA championships.  Ferris St and Boston College.  I'm gonna need you guys' help: let's go the team that's not BC, whoever Ferris St is!  BC: ranked 1 in the nation.  Ferris State: unranked.  Yeah, it's gonna be a major upset if they win....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 17, 2012, 03:50:38 PM
So apparently it's Fighting Day in the NHL.  Well, Sunday was.  I seriously haven't seen violence that severe in hockey ever before.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on April 17, 2012, 04:39:14 PM
So apparently it's Fighting Day in the NHL.  Well, Sunday was.  I seriously haven't seen violence that severe in hockey ever before.
And I'm fucking pissed.
If the Pens to clean up their act on Wednesday and produce some proper Penguins Hockey, I can actually see Bylsma potentially losing his job.
That was just unacceptable.  This is not the same team that I've been watching all year.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 18, 2012, 12:30:32 AM
Oh yeah.  And they got three suspensions from that game.

In related news, I'm pissed.  Chicago needs to win this series now.  For Hossa!  I'm going to be very surprised if Torres does not get suspended for at least a game.  I hope he's out for the next 3 at least (enough for Chicago to win the series).  When you send a guy out on a stretcher, you don't deserve to play the game.  At least, not when intentional like that.  Only way I can see something like that not drawing a major suspension at least is if you end up out of control with no way to stop and hit someone.  Maybe you're checked down and in the process of losing your balance you accidentally kick someone's legs out.

EDIT: Update on Torres: he's out for 25 games.  That's a minimum of the entire post season for them.  And you know what?  They aren't going to have a post season.  They have three more games until they are eliminated.  Because Chicago's gonna win.  So nyah.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on April 23, 2012, 08:18:43 PM
I'm happy Vancouver dropped. And I hope after today the two cupless girls have the Blackhawks and Rangers to keep them company.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 23, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
YOu're happy Vancouver dropped?  I'm mad that LA went on.  You do have one thing right though: screw New York.  But Chicago?  Chicago's going on.  They'd better.  Two of my teams are already out (San Jose and Pittsburgh), so I've only got two teams left (Chicago and Boston).

EDIT: better hope harder on that New York elimination thing.  Ottawa needs to start playing better.

EDIT2: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Okay, the exact opposite of what I wanted to happen, happened.  F you refs for your continued "vigilance" in this series, F you Torres for trading a not so great player for the best player and making the sport look bad, and F you Smith for being as lucky as you are.  Seriously freaking lucky.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on April 23, 2012, 08:53:59 PM
Happy Birthday, Wrigley Field.  It's 98 years old today.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on April 24, 2012, 05:09:13 AM
YOu're happy Vancouver dropped?  I'm mad that LA went on.  You do have one thing right though: screw New York.  But Chicago?  Chicago's going on.  They'd better.  Two of my teams are already out (San Jose and Pittsburgh), so I've only got two teams left (Chicago and Boston).

EDIT: better hope harder on that New York elimination thing.  Ottawa needs to start playing better.

EDIT2: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Okay, the exact opposite of what I wanted to happen, happened.  F you refs for your continued "vigilance" in this series, F you Torres for trading a not so great player for the best player and making the sport look bad, and F you Smith for being as lucky as you are.  Seriously freaking lucky.
From the very beginning I was hoping for Vancouver and Pittsburg to drop. I don't like the Sedin brothers, Crosby is a pesky whiner (a brilliant player, however) and I generally prefer Flyers to Penguins. Got nothing against Chicago, but I had bet some money on Phoenix trumping them, so I am happy.

Now, if only Boston would drop Washington...
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 24, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
Yeah you better pull for Boston.  They're my only team left.  After that it's just a bunch of teams I absolutely do not want to win.  Out of my top 5 least favorite teams (to the point where I actively want them to lose), 3 of them are in: New York, LA, and Philly.  And then Phoenix entered in as an honorary member after game 3.  So yeah, in the west, St. Louis is the only one I'm rooting for, and in the east, I've got Boston (hopefully getting the cup), Florida, and Ottawa still to take care of the others.

I'm not necessarily for Vancouver (they're my top pick from that division, but I'm not a big fan), but I hate LA a LOT more.  I am for Pittsburgh though.  I've always been a fan of that city's clubs.  Chicago's one of my top 3 cities: Boston, Chicago, and San Fransisco (San Jose is close enough).  I guess Pittsburgh's always been my number 4.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on April 24, 2012, 08:43:25 AM
I don't have a favourite per se, that changes as the teams and their tactics change. For the last few years I have enjoyed Boston's game, so they might be my favourite at the moment, but I also enjoy watching Philadelphia, although Pronger's absence sucks.

I do agree though that Chicago is a neat city. Too bad I can't afford to make a new visit for a while.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 24, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Chicago's one of the few big cities that I actually like.  It's got some neat sites, great food and music, and a pretty neat atmosphere.

Yeah, I guess being from not North America would kind of put a damper on having a proximity based favorite team.....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on April 24, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
Chicago's one of the few big cities that I actually like.  It's got some neat sites, great food and music, and a pretty neat atmosphere.

Yeah, I guess being from not North America would kind of put a damper on having a proximity based favorite team.....
In icehockey, I've always had just one favourite team and its that of my hometown. It's not just proximity though, I genuinely like their dedication to their junior programme, game philosophy and the players they put out. Koivu brothers are both from that team, so is Miikka Kiprusoff and while he did not start there, it's the place where Kimmo Timonen earned his stripes before heading out to the world.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 29, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
So I'm not one to play into sports curses/conspiracy theories except for fun, but I cannot stand the officiating in this Nashville/Phoenix game.  I'm not normally a fan of Nashville (again, Chicago fan, so I hate them) but I'm temporarily a fan for the sake of getting rid of Phoenix.  Now: Pekka Rinne: gets knocked over by a Coyote, no call, puck in the net (any other time a goalie is even touched?  Penalty, automatically).  Predator: checks someone against the glass, in the shoulder while he has the puck leaving him, gets called for boarding (this one was on the fence, so it's more opinion however).  Now, don't get me wrong, Nashville should be losing right now, but only by 1 (the other 3 goals?  Clean, if weird in two cases).  And they should have won the first game, but that's a bit more subjective as well, I mean, playing the first 90% of the third period in the Phoenix zone with no goal, and about 20835928356 chances that just should have gone in?  That's wrong man.  But yeah, this Phoenix power is getting ridiculous.  They are the only team owned by the NHL, so if they end up taking the cup?  I'm going to be concerned, and again, I don't normally take to conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on April 30, 2012, 07:07:06 AM
I wonder what the fuck happened to Rinne. He'd better pick up the pace.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on May 08, 2012, 12:47:44 AM
I reiterate: Mike Smith is the luckiest SOB in the world right now.  He managed to "stop" three goals against an empty net?  Really?  Avoids a penalty for punching a guy in the back of the head?  His entire performance is a joke, he's just lucky and has great (lucky) defensemen in front of him.  I honestly think that with a greater volume of clean shots on him Phoenix would lose easily.  Well, let's see how this plays out: best goalie in the league vs the luckiest.  Team that managed to outplay the top two seeds in the west (including the top team in the league) by a long shot vs the team that lucked and hurt people into the championship.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on May 09, 2012, 05:12:06 AM
Philadelphia, what the fuck?

At least the IIHF World Championship games are going as expected. Finland continues undefeated.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on May 09, 2012, 07:14:58 AM
Philadelphia, what the fuck?

Seriously...

In other news, who'd be up for a Minmax Fantasy Football league this fall?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on May 09, 2012, 07:21:41 AM
Four home runs in a single game, Josh Hamilton?  Really?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on May 09, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
Philadelphia, what the fuck?

Seriously...

In other news, who'd be up for a Minmax Fantasy Football league this fall?
Like real football or the funny stuff Americans do?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on May 09, 2012, 04:31:15 PM
Philadelphia, what the fuck?

Seriously...

In other news, who'd be up for a Minmax Fantasy Football league this fall?
Like real football or the funny stuff Americans do?
I suspect he means the one with the oblong ball, helmet and shoulderpads.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on May 09, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
If that is the case, my tentative interest is withdrawn.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on May 17, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
World championship games of ice hockey continue. Russia, unsurprisingly wrestled Norway out of the tournament and Slovakia had me flabbergasted by dropping Canada. Best of all, Finland gave an example of the kind of fighting spirit that won us the gold medal last year by making the 3-2 difference less than then second before the end. Goodbye, USA, you played well.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on May 17, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
We almost lost to Kazakhstan.  Not our year....

So Finland pulled a Chicago move there?  Nice.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Tshern on May 17, 2012, 08:27:26 PM
We almost lost to Kazakhstan.  Not our year....

So Finland pulled a Chicago move there?  Nice.
On Sunday the US beat Finland 5-0. Granted, Finland played so sluggishly I was wondering if the players were feverish or something.

But yeah, from 2-1 to 2-3 in less than five minutes. Mikko Koivu made the equaliser like a good captain should.

The Czech Republic dropped Sweden, which was a surprise. So the remaining pairs are as follows: 1. Finland vs Russia, 2. Czech Republic vs Slovakia. I do not look forward to facing Datsyuk, Malkin, Semin, Ovechkin and the rest. Last year we won them twice though, the latter game was the semifinal, and we won 3-0. Here's the first goal of that game, made by a 19-year-old, who's about to start in Minnesota next season. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRROpiNAvPw) That is something you just don't do at that age, against Russia or in the semifinals and definitely not when all three criteria are met.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: sirpercival on June 04, 2012, 10:14:59 AM
Alright, Fantasy (american) Football is open for business, so I've created a league (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/basketweavers) that anyone is welcome to join.

League: Basketweavers
Password: minmax

I currently have the max teams set at 12.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 25, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
You know, one thing people talking about the call last night seem to be forgetting about is that the refs could not, from their angles, see where the ball was.  Were I a gambling man, I'd bet that they talked about it and came to the conclusion that it was a simultaneous catch because that is exactly what it looked like in real time from field level.  It's only until you look at the replay from a different angle than the refs had that it becomes apparent that it was not a simultaneous catch, and that aspect of the play is not reviewable, so there was nothing they could do to overturn it.  I'd also bet that if that aspect of the play was reviewable, the call would have been overturned.  So what you should really be talking about is the reviewing policy.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dipolartech on September 25, 2012, 12:30:39 PM
And what people should really be talking about is something that matters more than "replacement refs" because besides the fact of its just an expensive fantasy fulfillment industry at this point, none of these descriptions of how bad the "replacement refs" are any different qualitatively nor quantitatively than lasts years talks about the "refs"
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 25, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
They should be talking about this, you're right. (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-packers-seahawks-referees-hiltzik-20120926,0,2570919.column)

Normally, however, the "refs suck" talk is not that big.  This time, it's big.  Really big.  Game deciding big.  Normally, they just sometimes influence the flow of a game at most.  This year, so far I could count up at least 5 games I have watched that almost certainly would have turned out differently had the regular refs been here.  The refs can't get everything, so I can excuse some of the bad calls in the past, but a lot of these ones happen in front of the refs and are so blatant that normally the players would just line up at the correct spot post-penatly, even the team that was penalized.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on September 25, 2012, 01:17:16 PM
at least one online betting site is giving refunds for last nights game.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dipolartech on September 25, 2012, 01:37:36 PM
I'm sorry Dman but you've just shown the problem, expectation bias you expect that "replacement refs" not to be as good and so you second guess and assign greater negative value to every call they make. "Flow of the game"? All calls that can go several different ways will effect the entire game and its outcome because its a human social/physiological constructed interaction, chaotic by nature, which means small perturbations might affect the outcome (hard to tell most of the time cause you know chaotic).

Its always been fun to yell at the refs, and say you can make better calls, now its just that people think they have an even better right to say that because the "replacement refs" are "minor leaguers" or have " a pick up game level" of expertise.

EDIT: P.S. I apologize for lack of ability to string coherent sentences together, as well as spell things.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 25, 2012, 01:54:48 PM
Really?  So the fact that the refs have problems with the legislation of calls, have problems getting calls right, and have problems with getting the calls done and the drives continued is not a problem?  I have no doubt that the game would have turned out differently if the normal refs had been here.  Seattle would have legitimately won, rather than having to rely on a botched call.  There is no doubt, that final catch should have been ruled an interception.  But it wasn't.  There should have been holding called in Green Bay's TD drive that would have prevented it (assuming they kick instead of going for it on 4th), but it wasn't.  There should have been offensive pass interference on the Seattle TD that was called defensive pass interference.  There are calls throughout this season that have been made flat out wrong, and normally, the calls are just wrong "because my opinion says so".  In the SNF game, there was a call against Baltimore for illegal contact down field, when it should have been holding (contact happened within 5 yards, so legal, but was holding, so illegal), and then they didn't call holding later on when a Baltimore guy brought Gronkowski to the ground, preventing him from continuing on his route.

As for flow of the game: flow is very important in football.  The sport is less about trowing and tackling and kicking than it is about strategy, and mental fortitude is important.  If you give the defense a 5 minute break to sort out the last play, you ruin the no-huddle offense that the offense has been building up.  It could easily cost them a TD.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dipolartech on September 25, 2012, 02:13:41 PM
I agree with you that the Flow is very important, I was attempting to point out how hard it really is to predict that "Flow" given how many different thigns happen during a game.

Yes you can pile up as many as examples as you have from this season saying how bad these refs are and how specific calls really did have a massive effect on a game and I'm sure I can find somebody willing to say that those "good ole refs" screwed the pooch for his/her favorite team every game last year.

The big deal here is that everybody is expecting it, everybody wants to talk about it, and nobody really remembers previous years and all the calls that destroyed a team's chance for winning.

P.S. maybe these guys do "suck" I dunno, I'd rather be playing d&d than watching football these days.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 25, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
The volume and significance of bad calls are more pronounced this year.  I didn't even know about the lockout until after I saw a few bad games, but it seems to actually be getting more pronounced as time goes on.  I'm trying to keep in mind that effect that you're talking about, and yet it's still obvious.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on October 02, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
I summon the powers of TSHERN*!  I must know: who should I root for in the KHL?  It looks like I (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355710-nhl-lockout-espn-khl-deal-could-take-some-power-from-the-owners) might be able to see some games on ESPN this year.

*or anyone else who might know teams from the KHL....And yes, I know you're more of the.....what's that league?  The one ins Sweden?  But still, you know more about the KHL than I do.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 22, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Can someone PLEASE tell me how/why throwing a challenge flag on a non-challengable play (scoring, turn-over, within 2-minutes, in OT) automatically makes the call on the field stand, even when the call on the field is explicitly wrong?  Like, look at it for an instant and say "yeah, reversed" wrong?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on November 22, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Can someone PLEASE tell me how/why throwing a challenge flag on a non-challengable play (scoring, turn-over, within 2-minutes, in OT) automatically makes the call on the field stand, even when the call on the field is explicitly wrong?  Like, look at it for an instant and say "yeah, reversed" wrong?
The thinking is that reviewing the play at that point "rewards" the coach who broke the rules on which plays he could challenge.  It's pretty stupid; I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that aspect of the challenge system up for review this off-season.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 22, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Last season it was a personal foul.  Which is a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down, if applicable.  This season it automatically makes the potentially bad call (in this case definitely bad call) legal.  This is the first way a penalty can give a team points (penalties like intentional grounding in the end zone don't count, since it's counting the player as down at the spot of the foul).
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 03, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
It's Super Bowl time!!!!  Let's go Niners!!!!!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on February 03, 2013, 05:37:07 PM
It's Super Bowl time!!!!  Let's go Niners!!!!!
I predict a Harbaugh gets to hold the trophy and get a Gatorade bath tonight.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 03, 2013, 10:49:43 PM
Aaaaand the third game this season decided by the refs!  NO call on shoving a ref, no call on blow to the head, no call on holding in the redzone that costs the Niners a touchdown, etc. etc.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Unbeliever on February 04, 2013, 12:16:11 AM
All games are decided by the refs.  There will always be debatable calls in any game, it's just that in some games they happen in the 4th quarter. 

I didn't see any particularly bad calls -- they were consistently letting them do a lot of pushing and shoving, which I prefer to calling pass interference, et al. on anything.  And, no commentators were particularly put out by the calls. 

Refs are bound to miss something; it's just really bad when they miss something particularly egregious.  The holding call in the endzone was missable -- on replay it seems like there should have been a call.  But, by the same token, upon replay there probably should have been an offensive pass interference call. 
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on February 04, 2013, 07:15:36 AM
I recall no less an authority than John Madden asserting that - should he so desire - the umpire could call holding on essentially every play and be technically accurate.  Sometimes, they have to let them play.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on February 05, 2013, 06:20:10 AM
the officiating in this game was worse than in 2005 when the seahawks lost to the steelers.

#1 Blowing the whistle before the fumble by James, which makes guys quit on the play on both sides (watch the replay!), and then calling it a turnover.
#2 No call for holding on the return touchdown
 #3 No call for Ed Reed LINING UP offsides on the 2PC
 #4 No call for defensive holding on the 49er's final offensive play

there were more bad calls on both sides, but these were key situations. call me a bad loser, but the niners were the better team over 60 minutes and should have won.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Unbeliever on February 05, 2013, 08:33:23 AM
but the niners were the better team over 60 minutes and should have won.
As someone who was reasonably fond of the 49ers (I'm a Giants fan) last year, largely b/c I'm a fan of defenses and power football in this league of Breeses and Bradies and Mannings. 

This sentiment is enough to turn all of us off to the team.  They said it when they lost to the Giants, in what was a nearly perfect game on both sides.  And, it seems to invalidate the play and the efforts of their opponents. 

And, it's a stretch that a team that was down by over 20 points, and who played a poor first half, to be "the better team over 60 minutes."  Even if you throw all those calls in the 49ers favor, the game is still extremely close.  And, in the words of their coach, the 49ers didn't play their best game. 
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 05, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
If you take away the fumble, the game wouldn't have been 22 points away from the 49ers.  If you call that interference on Culliver's should-have-been interception, it wouldn't have even gotten to 8 points out of hand.  And if it never got to that point, the 49ers probably wouldn't have missed the 2-point conversion, because they would have kicked an extra point.  So basically, you take a game of bad calls away, you have the 49ers down by a much more reasonable half.  They played better in the first half than the score suggested.  Not to mention the momentum swings that an early interception would have brought, and the fumble would have eliminated.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on February 07, 2013, 01:24:13 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever link=topic=3853.msg140103#msg140103
And, it's a stretch that a team that was down by over 20 points, and who played a poor first half, to be "the better team over 60 minutes."
the team that comes back from 22 points despite getting a hard time by the refs is better in my opinion. and as a giants fan: do you remember that fumble by bradshaw in the championship game last year? if that was ruled forward progress, how was james' fumble not forward progress?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 07, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
One of the very few times I will agree with a Giants fan.  The Niners almost won despite the hard time by the refs.  that's the better team.

EDIT: Eh, well, at least we have the most beautiful bridge.  I wonder what commercial they would have played if the Niners won?  I can't think of what Baltimore even has....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on February 07, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
One of the very few times I will agree with a Giants fan.  The Niners almost won despite the hard time by the refs.  that's the better team.

EDIT: Eh, well, at least we have the most beautiful bridge.  I wonder what commercial they would have played if the Niners won?  I can't think of what Baltimore even has....
no, i'm no giants fan. unbeliever said he was one. ;-)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Unbeliever on February 08, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
I was responding to the idea, specifically, that the 49ers were "better over 60 minutes."  That statement, as far as I understand it, means that they were better throughout.  You can't play what is, at best, a lackluster first half and claim that.  You can really and have a great, comeback, but you can't be the "better team over 60 minutes." 

...
The Niners almost won despite the hard time by the refs.  that's the better team.
...
As a relatively unbiased viewer, this strikes me as quite a stretch.  They did not play well.  How many times were the Smith's names called during the game, for instance?  How many great plays did that great defense, against the Raven's not exactly powerhouse offense, make?  That's the prevailing view among commentators, and also the view of Jim Harbaugh.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on February 09, 2013, 08:14:48 AM
I was responding to the idea, specifically, that the 49ers were "better over 60 minutes."  That statement, as far as I understand it, means that they were better throughout.  You can't play what is, at best, a lackluster first half and claim that.  You can really and have a great, comeback, but you can't be the "better team over 60 minutes." 

...
The Niners almost won despite the hard time by the refs.  that's the better team.
...
As a relatively unbiased viewer, this strikes me as quite a stretch.  They did not play well.  How many times were the Smith's names called during the game, for instance?  How many great plays did that great defense, against the Raven's not exactly powerhouse offense, make?  That's the prevailing view among commentators, and also the view of Jim Harbaugh.
Bah, what would Jim Harbaugh know about it?  Clearly, he's just influenced by wanting to see his brother win the Super Bowl. [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on February 10, 2013, 09:28:43 AM
bottom line: it was maybe the most exciting super bowl ever and a great game, but it's really sad that the refs couldn't stay out of discussion.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Unbeliever on February 10, 2013, 11:21:49 AM
bottom line: it was maybe the most exciting super bowl ever and a great game, but it's really sad that the refs couldn't stay out of discussion.
I can't argue with that. 

fwiw, I found SB 42 (Giants v. Patriots, round 1) quite exciting, but I freely admit my bias.  Giants v. Patriots round 2, last year's game, was actually sort of disappointing.  Mostly b/c I thought the last game the Giants had played, the one against the 49ers, was a nearly perfect, and punishing game, by both sides.  The Superbowl, by comparison, was sloppy and lackluster on both sides. 
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: betrayor on February 20, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
Brilliant game today by Milan,they outwitted Barcelona arguably the best team of the last 5 years....
Their tactics today were impeccable.....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on February 20, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Brilliant game today by Milan,they outwitted Barcelona arguably the best team of the last 5 years....
Their tactics today were impeccable.....
classic catenaccio
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on February 23, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
Spring Training baseball on TV.   :cloud9
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on February 26, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
Dennis Rodman is with the Globetrotters, in North Korea.

wtf - ping pong diplomaNcy yes.  :clap  :???
It's so eee-vul , it's genius.

One of the tv wags said:  "And in North Korea, the Washington Generals always win."
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: InnaBinder on March 06, 2013, 11:08:44 PM
Baseball has become Ender's Game.

One of the Philadelphia Phillies players is actually named Ender.  Geek cred for days, that.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: betrayor on March 07, 2013, 06:08:51 AM
Somewhat late but Madrid outplayed Man U in the Champions League 16 phase....
Of course the United fans are complaining about the referee but they should remember all the times that they were favored by referees in the past.....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on March 07, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
[...]but they should remember all the times that they were favored by referees in the past.....
that's kind of a bullshit argument, you know?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: betrayor on March 07, 2013, 10:18:35 AM
[...]but they should remember all the times that they were favored by referees in the past.....
that's kind of a bullshit argument, you know?
What I meant to say is that referee mistakes are a part of the game,It is no use complaining except for the cases that the referee was clearly corrupt.....
Sometimes the referee helps you,sometimes he helps the other team....
As long as it is unintentional I don't see a reason to cause such an uproar.....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 07, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Chicago continues the streak!  We're only 5 games away from the consecutive record too.

In other news, Washington got slightly better in my eyes, because one of their players is named Wojtek.  As in, shares a name with Wojtek the bear. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(soldier_bear))
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on May 03, 2013, 08:46:21 PM
It's NHL playoffs time!  What're your predictions/hopes?

My predictions and hopes happen to be roughly the same.  Anyways:

the west 1st round winners: Chicago, Anaheim, LA, San Jose.

East 1st round winners: Pittsburgh, Boston, Montreal, Washington

west 2nd round winners: Chicago, San Jose

East 2nd round winners: Boston, Pittsburgh.

Cup players: Chicago, Pittsburgh.  Winner: Chicago.

The changes I'd like are that Montreal and Anaheim lose.

Also: the hit on that Montreal player: suspension deserved or not?  I don't think he should have been suspended.  I mean, the ice is what broke the player's face.  The hit looked clean to me, it just was an unfortunate accident.  I don't think he deserved suspension, even a fine would have been too much.  But what I like about this story: Prust calling the Ottawa coach a "fat walrus".
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 06, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2013/08/05/sp-nhl-phoenix-coyotes-ownership.html

Phoenix Coyotes finally have an owner.  4 years the NHL owned them.  And now they're a hockey club stuck in Arizona for at least 5 more years  ;)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on August 06, 2013, 02:45:22 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2013/08/05/sp-nhl-phoenix-coyotes-ownership.html

Phoenix Coyotes finally have an owner.  4 years the NHL owned them.  And now they're a hockey club stuck in Arizona for at least 5 more years  ;)
:shakefist Fuck the city of Glendale -- we're paying an extra 3% sales tax for that shit ..... and nobody goes unless it's versus the Red Wings or the Penguins.  They literally can't give away tickets for a Coyotes' game.  And they hold the "in-demand" games hostage .... if you want to see them play the Penguins or the Red Wings, you also have to buy tickets to 2+ other games.

I'm convinced that it has cost the city more to keep them in town than is put back in to the local economy ..... they're just afraid of the potential political blow-back of just cutting their losses.

[/soapbox rant]
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on August 06, 2013, 04:42:10 AM
Arizona...

Hockey...

I don't see it... I guess mostly because it's not there...
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 06, 2013, 10:42:26 AM
The contract was for 15 years, and it's been 10.  But I'm with you.  I like seeing hockey spread to those who don't have it yet, but Arizona?  I will say that when I've seen games played there, the stadium did get kinda full.  But then again I was watching Blackhawks games, and half of the fans were Blackhawks fans cause we're cool like that.  Meanwhile, did you know that Seattle doesn't have a team?  Quebec doesn't either.

EDIT: Oh, and point of interest?  Chicago doesn't black out games.  They still have had a sold out stadium for the past 250-300 games.  I have no doubt that there are fans down there that would like to keep the team (especially since they've been doing pretty well lately)  but yeah, economically not that hot.  Who knows, maybe now that they have an actual owner things will be better for them?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on August 06, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
The contract was for 15 years, and it's been 10.  But I'm with you.  I like seeing hockey spread to those who don't have it yet, but Arizona?  I will say that when I've seen games played there, the stadium did get kinda full.  But then again I was watching Blackhawks games, and half of the fans were Blackhawks fans cause we're cool like that.  Meanwhile, did you know that Seattle doesn't have a team?  Quebec doesn't either.

EDIT: Oh, and point of interest?  Chicago doesn't black out games.  They still have had a sold out stadium for the past 250-300 games.  I have no doubt that there are fans down there that would like to keep the team (especially since they've been doing pretty well lately)  but yeah, economically not that hot.  Who knows, maybe now that they have an actual owner things will be better for them?
I would hope so.  If you sell out every game and can't pay the bills, something is seriously wrong.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 09, 2013, 08:18:48 AM
And while talking about how Phoenix might finally have an owner, the Devils......don't.... (http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/08/08/nhl-takeover-of-new-jersey-devils-looming/)

And this is New Jersey, not one of the lesser known teams.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 15, 2013, 12:19:09 AM
And the Devils have an owner!  It's the guy who owns the Philadelphia 76ers.  Who play in Wells Fargo Center, which is owned by the owner of the Philadelphia Flyers.  So the guy who owns the Devils is forced to have his other team play in the arena owned by the guy who runs the Flyers.  OR: the Devils are owned by a Philadelphia guy.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 16, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
That's weird.
If it wasn't the NHL and it's various financial troubles,
that would smack of Collusion.  They really really
ought to work out a swap.  (I'm sure they're happy
that I'm not in charge).  A Jersey only guy almost
has that market to himself ;  no more NBA team ; 
no good AAA baseball ;  Yanks/Jets/Giants are York.
etc

Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on September 20, 2013, 02:28:25 AM
I'm sure this has gone around a bunch, but here it is anyway:

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1186136_235828113235254_2123192151_n.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on September 20, 2013, 03:17:59 PM
Ha-ha ... ha ... umm ...  :plotting ... the cartoonist while funny, may be pulling one over on the fantasy football types.  Football is real.  Demogorgon is not real.  Oh well quibbling.



I was hoping somebody would move up to get Trent Richardson instead of the Browns getting him.  Because even the Browns couldn't screw up what to do with him.  I was wrong, like unbelievably wrong.  The Browns gave him up for HALF what they coulda got at the draft.  Silly Browns, always a J.V. team.  It sucks for everyone else that the Colts are deadly now.  It doesn't suck for the Browns any worse that it already does.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 21, 2013, 12:15:24 AM
The Colts still have a second rate QB and rest of the offense and a middle of the road defense.  They are not dangerous, I assure you.  I mean, they lost to MIAMI of all teams.  And almost lost to Oakland.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on September 21, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
Fantasy Football is for people who can't figure out Blood Bowl.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 21, 2013, 01:45:22 PM
What is Blood Bowl?

Also, the team that gave up the best player to another team in a trade that made the biggest impact: the Patriots gave up Wes Welker.  That trade was probably the most significant single boost/bane to a team this offseason.  It made the Broncos a really dangerous team and it means the Patriots have to deal with a bunch of rookies....it's not been fun as a Pats fan this season so far...

Also, Ohio State has to have set a record with this.  It's halftime, and the score is 55-0.  I believe the record for total points in a game is around 65 or so.  And it's only halftime.  It's....holy cow...I don't even care about college football but this is just weird.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on September 21, 2013, 02:00:28 PM
Yeah maybe not deadly quite yet, but give Luck + TR the normal time a rookie gets to prove themselves.
Welker is by far the better receiver than Mike Wallace.  But the dolphins had no deep threat last year.
10 men at the line, versus 4 men at the line and 2 safeties deep = big big difference.


iirc Blood Bowl is like Old School Football meets 2e D&D.

(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1280064_60010999001_BloodBowlXboxMain_445x319.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: X-Codes on September 21, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
I wouldn't say D&D 2e.  It's more like the old board game Hero Quest, with Dungeon Crawling substituted out for Rugby.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on September 24, 2013, 07:48:40 PM
 :tongue ... The last time I gandered at BloodBowl , was the last time the Pirates had a winning season ...  ;)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 24, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
So this year?

(EDIT: I'm not a baseball fan, but aren't they winning this year?)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on September 24, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
Yeah, they clinched a playoff spot this past weekend. Or maybe it was yesterday.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on September 25, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
Naww it's just an odd co-inkydink.
Pirates had Bonds, Bonilla and Drabeck, and
tossed them away, when McClatchy took over.
What do Newspaper guys know about Baseball?
Nothing ; so they had the worst record in b-ball
for 20 years.  But they made lots of money off
being patsies for the 10x spenders (see Bankees).

I've no idea why I'm slightly riled up about all this.
Maybe it's because "sport" assumes a degree of competition.
Bankees versus the PiLates ...  :drunk
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on October 23, 2013, 10:46:21 PM
Holy balls hockey announcers are awesome.  They tell it like it is, and aren't afraid to mince words.  John Scott delivers a cheap shot to a Bruins player, clear head hunt and late hit.  Announcers: That was a bush league play, and he should be fired.  Funny thing, before the game even started the same announcer said that Scott shouldn't be in the league.  Made a point to show that he had one goal in 86 games and plenty of fights, dirty hits, and suspensions.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 21, 2013, 06:47:12 PM
So the NFL is no longer about football it seems.  On Sunday, 49ers player Ahmad Brooks hits Drew Brees in the chest, and hard, with a tackle that causes him to lose the ball and the 49ers picked it up.  The refs throw a flag for a hit to the head/neck area, and now Brooks is being fined for the hit.  If Brooks had hit Brees in any place but where he hit him, he would have been penalized for a low hit or a high hit.  In essence, the league has said that you cannot tackle a QB who is not paying attention.  And if he gets hurt, we're fining you, no matter what.  Even if it wasn't a malicious hit and you did literally everything we told you to do.  I'm not (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10007291/whitlock-fixing-nfl-rules) the only one (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/102074/nfl-nation-says-too-much-qb-protection) who thinks this. (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9997989)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on November 21, 2013, 10:45:34 PM
Am I the only one who feels increasingly uneasy about watching/supporting/enjoying football at all, with all of the brain research that has come out in the last few years?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 21, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
I feel that as long as the players are aware of the consequences everything is fine.  However, the NFL has tried to suppress knowledge of the consequences, and as a rebound has removed what made the game fun.  Lots of players finish careers without any long term injuries, and they have been for a number of years, even to the way back game.  The way you stop the brain issues (and all the other issues) is to teach the players how to properly tackle to avoid injury.  The helmet is really good at stopping concussions.  They are less of an issue if the head is not targeted.  The most prominent injuries happen to the legs.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on November 22, 2013, 12:18:55 AM
I'm too lazy to find the actual links, but I'm pretty sure I've heard/read that the biggest danger isn't so much straight-up concussions, but repeated sub-concussion head-trauma. Especially in younger (middle-/high-school age) players.

I... think I agree that if players are aware of the physical consequences (permanent knee/back/shoulder/etc injuries) then that's on them. But I'm not sure that I agree about the mental consequenses. You can know what it feels like to have that physical injury, and decide that you're "okay" with feeling like that for the rest of your life. But I'm not sure you can ever really know beforehand what it's like to lose brain function.

For the record, if/when I have children, I think that I would not want them to play football.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 22, 2013, 09:45:14 AM
It is the repeated trauma that is the problem.  But mostly it's repeated concussions, which don't happen on every tackle, even every tackle that hits the head.  If you move your head, you aren't put at risk, and what a good helmet does is make it so that instead of banging your head, you move your head.  big difference.  As long as heads are not targeted, there should be a significant lower risk factor in the sport.  Accidents will still happen, but they happen in every aspect of life.  You can't prevent everything, and making it so that even accidental contact and hits are punished means that no one will even try to tackle in the upper body, and even then it will still happen.  So now you have the problem still occurring AND people taking out knees.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: zugschef on November 25, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
So the NFL is no longer about football it seems.  On Sunday, 49ers player Ahmad Brooks hits Drew Brees in the chest, and hard, with a tackle that causes him to lose the ball and the 49ers picked it up.  The refs throw a flag for a hit to the head/neck area, and now Brooks is being fined for the hit.  If Brooks had hit Brees in any place but where he hit him, he would have been penalized for a low hit or a high hit.  In essence, the league has said that you cannot tackle a QB who is not paying attention.  And if he gets hurt, we're fining you, no matter what.  Even if it wasn't a malicious hit and you did literally everything we told you to do.  I'm not (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10007291/whitlock-fixing-nfl-rules) the only one (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/102074/nfl-nation-says-too-much-qb-protection) who thinks this. (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9997989)
As a 49ers Fan that play was hard to watch.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on November 25, 2013, 01:00:16 PM
...and now Derrick Rose is out for the season (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/10034512/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-season-knee-surgery). Dammit! (I'm not a Bulls fan, just a basketball fan.)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on November 25, 2013, 01:02:22 PM
I'm a huge 49ers fan as well, and I'm also a Bears fan.  This past Sunday there was a hit leveled on the Bear's Josh McCown that was also a really bad call.  Not as bad as the one on Ahmad Brooks, but still should not have been called.  It was called a "forcible blow to the chest" or something.  A blow, to the chest.  Shoulder to chest, straight impact, basically a textbook hard hit.  The reason it could be explained away is that the defender lowered his helmet into McCown, whereas Brooks turned his head to avoid contact with his helmet.  Still a bad call, just not as bad.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on November 26, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
Really sucks about D Rose.  The fancy stat guys
have his efficiency this season at low back-up level.
Which is to say, he already had come back too soon.
Now this.  Done.  Sad.  Rose isn't quite yet into the
Grant Hill , Yao Ming , Bill Walton , Greg Oden category.

The Bulls might have to blow up this team and rebuild,
because Rose is 2 years away from respectable play.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on November 26, 2013, 04:07:54 PM
I don't think he came back too soon. I think he was just rusty. And, at least it wasn't the same knee.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 07, 2014, 07:28:20 PM
So team rosters are all announced for the Socchi games with regards to hockey, and of course notable snubs are all over the place.  For instance, how on Earth can Canada justify not bringing on the latest Stanley Cup winning goalie who has been playing another Cup contesting year (injured, but returned with no problem), and yet bring on Roberto Luongo?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 28, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
It's time to dredge up this old thread again, because there's some sports news that's happened!  So, Ryan Miller, goal tender for Buffalo for the past 14 years, has just been traded away, along with their captain (!) to St Louis, for the Blues' goal tender and one of their forwards, as well as draft picks.  St Louis, top of their division, trades away their best goalie for the worst team in the league's goalie and captain.  What.  The.  Hell.  Miller was most certainly going to be traded.  But I think everyone expected him to go to a mediocre team that actually NEEDED a goalie, like, say, Washington or Tampa Bay....him going to a team that had two good goalies that has had a formula that worked?  Weird.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on March 01, 2014, 02:44:16 PM
That's is weird from the St.Louis side.
They've got that market without Basketball competition.
It would behoove them (fancy words) to pay a bit extra
to keep the town to themselves. 
Like Pittsburgh, San Jose, Anaheim, now New Jersey too,
and every Canadian team except Toronto.

That Buffalo dude is rich as hell.
He dropped $80million to start PennState's hockey program.
Bold move.

I take it you're more of a St.Louis fan than Buffalo ?

Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 01, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
Chicago, San Jose, and Boston.  So neither really.  It was just a really weird move and even though I like that it happened it's bad for the Blues.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on April 16, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
It's time for the Stanley Cup Playoffs!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on April 29, 2014, 10:25:42 PM
Holy crap! (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10857580/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-owner-receives-life-ban-nba)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on May 01, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
Adam Silver is My Homeboy.
 :clap


Turns out the players were ready to not play
over this guy.  The other owners went to
their bean counters and asked if anything
other than ditch sterling was possible.  Nope.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on June 02, 2014, 05:13:42 PM
GREGG POPOVICH:  I don't deal in maybe.  I have enough trouble with reality.


That's awesome, I'm'n'a sig it.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on June 02, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
Pop is hilarious! This one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlXUjyX_v0) is from last week, but he does this all the time, as you can see if you scroll down the right side.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on June 02, 2014, 06:46:50 PM
Miami's in the NBA finals and LA's in the NHL finals?  Not a good weekend for me...The universe has decided to make me a temporary Rangers fan yet again, thanks to 5 really unlucky bounces, and another couple on the offensive end on Sunday...
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on June 02, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
I'm not really a hockey fan, but one of my best friends is a Rangers fan, so I'm rooting for them.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on June 03, 2014, 12:23:54 AM
I'm much more of a Rangers fan that I was at the start of the year.  I like their new coach MUCH more than their old coach, I like Martin St. Louis and a couple other players, Lunqvidst isn't acting like a tool, and they beat up Montreal (which I absolutely loved seeing happen).
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on October 29, 2014, 11:53:04 PM
whoo boy it's been a while since it's been time to sports.  Anyways, my Giants just won the world series!!!!  Three times in 5 years!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on October 30, 2014, 12:26:09 AM
NBA's season started up last night, so I know what I'm watching for the next 8 months!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on October 30, 2014, 01:04:10 AM
what, hockey?  Season's been going for about a month  ;)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on October 30, 2014, 01:24:56 AM
what, hockey?  Season's been going for about a month  ;)
Meh... :p

Not a hockey fan. Sowwy.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on December 08, 2014, 10:53:17 PM
So the NHL is maybe possibly (pretty surely) looking at expansion, and Las Vegas is looking like number 1 on their list of places that get a shot at a team.  Bettmen keeps denying talks, but talks have happened, and they recently voted to allow the potential owners to hold a "season ticket drive" to gauge interest.  So....

What team name would Vegas have?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 08, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
So the NHL is maybe possibly (pretty surely) looking at expansion, and Las Vegas is looking like number 1 on their list of places that get a shot at a team.  Bettmen keeps denying talks, but talks have happened, and they recently voted to allow the potential owners to hold a "season ticket drive" to gauge interest.  So....

What team name would Vegas have?

If there is no gambling reference, I--as a non-american--will be disgusted and disappointed.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on December 08, 2014, 11:30:07 PM
One of the articles mentioned that "no one outside of Vegas thinks there's anyone there but casino dealers, cocktail waitresses, and hookers"  So my choice would be the "dealingwaitresshookers".  My mom suggested the Desert Rats (what?), but I pointed out that it would be an issue when they faced the Arizona Coyotes ;)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: FireInTheSky on December 09, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
How about the "Las Vegas WeUsedTheLastWaterInTheStateToCoverThisRinkWithIce-s"? Or is that better as a California team name?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on December 09, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
No, absolutely that's a Vegas name.  The California places have an ocean next door.  Las Vegas actually destroyed a lake to water their lawns.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on December 14, 2014, 01:35:45 AM
Watched UFC tonight; and I must say, I'm a little pissed.

1st: why do the Diaz brothers even still have jobs?  They are both whiny-ass cry-babies, way over-rated, and are flat-out disrespectful - not only to other fighters, but to the sport.  I'm so glad Nate got destroyed tonight.

And now for the bullshit: Dos Santos -v- Miocic.  That was some straight-up Don King b.s. right there.  Don't get me wrong -- if anything, I was actually biased towards Dos Santos; but he got owned for 25 minutes.  I could've even accepted a split decision; but not only was it unanimous, 2 of the judges actually gave Dos Santos 4 rounds!
The ONLY not-rigged excuse is the punch count (123-to-89) .... but that doesn't even come anywhere close to telling the story.  The scoring system is a pathetic joke; and if the scoring system is that much of a joke, what does that say about the rest of the operation?

All I have to say is that Jones -v- Cormier better not be a stinker; my patience is running thin.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on December 14, 2014, 04:56:08 AM
i think you about summed that event up.

i hadnt realized they were having a Fox event and stumbled onto it....

then i see the card is stacked, at least in theory.

gonzaga? really? basketball sure... but ufc? thats a retirement fight, who ever looses should retire. if you cant beat G.G. you are not ufc material. its Rockey Horror time, we are Doin the Time Warp back to 2008.

i like struve, i think reem's hype is as roided as he is. sure, he can whip G.G. 9 times of 10 but thats not something to brag about.

it might just by my preference for struve but i think the ref screwed him a little. maybe i need to rewatch to make sure. not that i think we was gonna pull out of it...

i always enjoy watching a Diaz get beat on. his poor leg, ouch thats gonna hurt tomorrow... and the rest of his life. of the two diaz bros, i prefer nate. nick is worthless.

i watched the first 3 rounds of Dos Santos and Mio. im a little ambivalent about the way that fight was progressing.
i know how it ended, and have seen the judges card info. what i saw dont match up with what the judges saw. stipe was slowing down but he was still dominate. Junior looked bloated.

the ambivalence is; neither of these guys (based on history and what i saw tonight) needs to fight Cain.

at least not the Cain that showed up last time and Cosbied Junior.

and Dos Santos has already had 3 fights w/ Cain, lost 2 of em.

that thats my 35c....

i basically fully agree w/ WotM.

Also, i think Bones is going to have little to no problem w/ DC. I was immensely impressed w/ what DC did to/with Hendo, but Dan isnt anything like Bones. Bones has shown 'next level' skill. so unless a doc stops it, or herb dean panics cause someone gets winded... i think its Bones's to loose.

 
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on December 14, 2014, 01:03:35 PM
i like struve, i think reem's hype is as roided as he is. sure, he can whip G.G. 9 times of 10 but thats not something to brag about.

it might just by my preference for struve but i think the ref screwed him a little. maybe i need to rewatch to make sure. not that i think we was gonna pull out of it...
I didn't mind the Overeem fight ..... the ref seriously stopped a murder from happening.

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i know how it ended, and have seen the judges card info. what i saw dont match up with what the judges saw. stipe was slowing down but he was still dominate. Junior looked bloated.

the ambivalence is; neither of these guys (based on history and what i saw tonight) needs to fight Cain.
Miocic didn't slow down any further -- round 3 was his low point.  Junior had more rust than a '68 chevy buried in a Georgia swamp.
Also - and this part really disappoints me -- there's nobody in the hw division that deserves to be in the same cage as Cain.

 
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Also, i think Bones is going to have little to no problem w/ DC. I was immensely impressed w/ what DC did to/with Hendo, but Dan isnt anything like Bones. Bones has shown 'next level' skill. so unless a doc stops it, or herb dean panics cause someone gets winded... i think its Bones's to loose.
Here's my take on that one:
Bones, based on his last several fights, simply fights to not-lose.  I think that DC is going to bring enough heat that if Bones doesn't actually step-up and try to close, then he's going to get submitted.  Bones should win, but he's going to have to reignite that fire in his belly (which I have some doubts about) .
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on December 14, 2014, 05:19:39 PM
the last time Cain fought Dos Santos; violence is entertaining. i might rewatch it tonight :D

Bones does need to take DC seriously... that would be a sad mistake not to.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 04, 2015, 05:08:38 AM
So, Jon Jones is a punk bitch, and I've now lost all respect for him as a human being -- that display at the end of the fight tonight was simply and flat-out disgusting.  DC gave a very good accounting of himself -- his lack of endurance is what killed him (that, and the convenient eye-poke that gave Jones a chance to avoid what was building to be an imminent knock-out and to regroup).

All in all, a very good card.  That prelim knock-out with Felder was AWESOME!  This guy is definitely someone to watch.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on January 04, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
Bones has a glint in his eye, similar to Big Ben after that hit in the Steelers game.

I mean I'd assume that UFC wouldn't work if they had to use the NFL's concussion protocol ;  still, Bones ain't quite what he used to be.

Not surprised the Steelers lost. 
Big rain storm, no Bell, one of the fancy stats guys had their D ranked #31 in the league, and the Ravens the #2 to #5 team all season even with all their injuries.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 04, 2015, 03:46:20 PM
Yeah, and the Arizona game?  Not surprising that it was the fewest yards ever in a playoff game.  When you are starting your third string QB who hasn't even played with the team until a couple weeks ago, and with the other injuries?  Not surprising.  All I care about is the best NFC team possible taking on Seattle to put them in their place.  Hopefully that happens in this coming round!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on January 05, 2015, 12:49:19 AM
So, Jon Jones is a punk bitch, and I've now lost all respect for him as a human being -- that display at the end of the fight tonight was simply and flat-out disgusting.  DC gave a very good accounting of himself -- his lack of endurance is what killed him (that, and the convenient eye-poke that gave Jones a chance to avoid what was building to be an imminent knock-out and to regroup).

All in all, a very good card.  That prelim knock-out with Felder was AWESOME!  This guy is definitely someone to watch.

i didnt think that eye poke was all that pokey

one of the great things about mma is the amount of good sportsmanship that gets displayed. these guys who can break each other in half and shake hands afterwards is great, cant praise that enough. but... its not a requirement.

that attempt to sucker punch at the end was childish...

i feel a little bad for DC, can he drop another weight class? i dont think he'll be happy as the #2 or 3 lhw guy for very long... and moving back up is just as bad.

as for the fight its self, i was surprised that jones looked tired going into round three. this guy has no excuse for cardio. otherwise after guf gets his rebate shot, idk the whole lhw division is looking sparse for legit title shots.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 05, 2015, 04:27:39 AM
I don't need post-fight mutual ass-kissing lovefest ..... I didn't even really mind (for example) Rousey's behavior before/after the second Tate fight.  But that 1-2 sucker-punch was over the line.  Compounding things further is the stark contrast between his fairly recent general attitude and what we've seen in years past .... I think that we're now seeing the "real" Jones -- it's just disappointing.

As for DC .... better endurance would make him a much more viable contender.  I just don't see it as a possibility for him to drop yet another weight class ... if he was 5-10 years younger, maybe, but not now. 
Jones was able to dictate the pace against Gufstason; DC, OTOH, was the first person to be able to dictate the pace against Jones ever -- and that's really saying something.  Jones looked tired going in to round 3 because he had just gotten his ass whooped all over the cage for the last 5 minutes (well, 6+ really ...) -- I just saw that as a logical building of momentum.  While the eye poke wasn't especially egregious or devastating in itself, it was enough to stall DC's momentum and to get an extra minute of breather for Jones .... that's a huge deal -- just ask Yoel Romero RE: Tim Kennedy.

But whatever -- I'm looking forward to the next Fox event and UFC 184.  :cheers
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on January 05, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
i would be more upset w/ the sucker punching if it had been after the bell... when jones put his hands up  DC 'shoulda' done anything but stop.

speaking of cardio, DC should be a cardio monster also. really any pro mma guy needs to be cardio immune. (is there a term im forgetting?  :)  )

those next events are stacked...

im interested to see of anthony johnson can keep his momentum going. him and the O. St.P are the only lhp people i see that have realistic potential left.


Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on January 05, 2015, 05:31:49 PM
One of the articles mentioned that "no one outside of Vegas thinks there's anyone there but casino dealers, cocktail waitresses, and hookers"  So my choice would be the "dealingwaitresshookers". 

There's an actual University there (sniff,snicker,giggle,guffaw) ... and lots of Spec houses for cheap.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 19, 2015, 04:19:11 AM
Dana White has some 'splainin' to do:
Stats:
Henderson -v- Cerone (http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/93569f4876c20488)
Pendred -v- Spencer (http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/6359bba789ce28ae)
Seriously, WTF?!


Oh, and I want to double-down on Jones being a shitbag: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/dana-white-definitely-something-wrong-if-jon-jones-is-doing-cocaine-3-weeks-before-fight-011515
I find it curious that this doesn't come out until after the fight.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on January 19, 2015, 08:08:39 AM
its not been a good couple weeks for them...

is one day not enough coke rehab?  :rolleyes

Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on January 24, 2015, 10:21:06 PM
id hesitate to say Hendo got 'robbed' but he def got a raw deal....

AJ is on a roll, looked really good. he seems to have broken one of the CO fundamental rules.... he wasnt going first... he did however do a good job of going last. :cool

almost forgot, i think Davis won his fight... not that i ever need to see him or bader fight again, they should both look into getting a car dealership or something going.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 25, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
So there's this story going around the sports world.  See, people think the Patriots cheated because they followed the ideal gas law.  There's basically two camps that I see.  People who hate the Pats, and people who think this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 26, 2015, 12:20:35 AM
Hendo .... is a bottom-teir gatekeeper.  Sad, but true.  He's had a good run, though.

Rumble looked good -- he came out and pushed the pace from the opening bell, and he showed good follow-up (something that many fighters lack); but I'm worried about Bones' counter-striking and eye-poking (worst offender in the UFC, btw).  Rumble might be able to press the pace, which will be to his advantage, but apparently a line of coke makes all the pain go away.  He'll need an early KO or it's Bones' fight.

I like Davis; but yeah, I think he's already peaked.



Belicheat has a LONNNNNG history of cheating and other shadiness -- he's not fit for the league. 
And, as usual, Goodell never passes up a chance to fuck things up.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 26, 2015, 01:03:43 AM
The only thing Belichick has done was the spygate thing which was legal until 2007, the year he got "caught" doing it...I'll agree on the Goodell thing, but seriously.  Belichick is a brilliant tactician...

Ideal gas law, the Mighty Pvnrt: Balls filled at room temp brought to the temp of the stadium that day lose a full PSI+.  That they are not filled with an ideal gas, lowers it more, and that water is prominent, especially on a rainy day, lowers it more...  Nobody (except the Ravens and people who don't like the Pats, and only after the investigation) accused them of anything, no one on the Colts did either.  Let me guess, you're a Ravens/Jets/Giants/Colts fan?  Maybe Buffalo?  Seriously, the most obvious answer is "no one can tell the difference between the balls and the weather did this".  I guarantee you that had they measured the Colt's balls they would have been just as low.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 26, 2015, 01:08:47 AM
no/no/no/no, and no.
Then why not all 12; and why the 11 the exact same amount?  b.s.
sorry, but 2 lbs is a big deal, and quite noticeable. 
Not to mention that it was Brady that spearheaded the call to change ball distribution procedures a few years back (used to just be 24 balls for the game that had no team contact until game use).  Coincidence?  I think not.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 26, 2015, 01:21:11 AM
... oh, and that is certainly not the limit of Belicheat's antics:
- shutting down coms for other team (obviously only in Foxboro)
- messing with locker rooms
- multiple different types of attempts to record stuff (to include planting bugs in various places)
- the recording went on for years
- .....
And he really acts like a bad sport, to boot.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/36/365ff0b01c9377279ed1ecee4130a986c809654d5c7f62ee8b3b14f885686f8f.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 26, 2015, 01:26:32 AM
There's no evidence of any of that stuff...

Also, it was Brady and Manning who did it.  And, according to one of the head refs, pretty much no way it could have happened unless officials were in on it.  Or did it.

Do you think it was cheating to substitute players and have them declare eligible/ineligible before snaps?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 26, 2015, 01:33:20 AM
Hold up -- I see where this is going ..... let me go ahead and put this out there: I am from Pittsburgh.  (that may or may not warrant you dismissing this particular argument based on that context).

Also, in the interest of full disclosure: I'm not interested in debate/negotiation; I just like to bitch.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 26, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Ah, yeah, that makes sense. I forgot about the Pittsburgh fans  ;).  I actually /like/ the Steelers, unlike most people from NE.  Basically, they're the tolerable alternative to the Eagles and Flyers....
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 26, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
Oh, let's not even talk about Philthy  :shakefist

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Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 27, 2015, 12:09:13 AM
Hey, remember that time they booed Santa?!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on January 27, 2015, 12:58:42 AM
OMG -- I'd forgotten about that .... WTF was that even about?! :twitch  Yeah, just fuck that whole city -- they're just a whole other breed of animal out there.

Hey, I thought I said let's not talk about Philthy.   :ahem
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on January 27, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
Philly invented the Police holding center INSIDE the stadium, because they had to.  You'd run out of Cops in the entire Philadelphia County otherwise.


All those Saggy Balls that the Patsies were using, were handled at a minimum 1 time per play, by a supposedly well trained game official, referee or umpire.

Ha.
HA HA
 :lmao
Ha f- :fu-ing Ha.

Theme song should be:  The Who , See Me Feel Me ... (touch me, feel me-e-e)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbxxuasmSpA
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on January 27, 2015, 07:14:04 PM
From the new video "evidence": "An employee took two balls, one from each team, into the bathroom for 90 seconds.  Could he have deflated 11 balls in that time?"  Seriously, how is this still a thing?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on January 30, 2015, 03:58:20 PM
If you were a ball ... (uh-oh) ... and you were "handled" by that guy, I think you would tell all those other balls to go commit suicide first.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 01, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
Pats win!  I loved the shot of Sherman when they intercepted that ball at the end.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on February 01, 2015, 11:18:12 PM
i prefer the shot of the owner after the next to last catch (the miracle catch)

that fight was better than last nights ufc main event...  :rolleyes
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: ketaro on February 01, 2015, 11:35:22 PM
Fckin Seahawks. Who would throw the ball in that situation. They totally coulda stolen that win if they ran it. They were doing pretty good on coming back after that insane almost fumble catch at 2 minutes  :lmao
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on February 02, 2015, 06:09:26 PM
Yeah, you go Wildcat with 2 extra Lineman, 2 TE's and a blocking back ... and let the other team beat the best player on the field ... 3 times in a row.  OR you go Ohio State with 2 extra Lineman, 2 TE's ... and let the other team guess who's getting the ball, the best player on the field, or the best running QB ... 3 times in a row.

Oh and take a  :fu timeout so you know what you're doing ; maybe they thought they could keep it for the next game on a wraparound "minutes" plan with Time outs.



The dead-air commercial right at the start of the game, freaked the !@#$ out of some dudes near where I was watching.  Hilarious.

Mondrian meets
Fischer Price baby toys meets
omfg I don't remember smoking anything before halftime
"Katy Perry, my kitty avatar's Tail wants to have your Baby."
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on March 17, 2015, 11:50:18 PM
Andrew Hammond, a 27 year old playing his first games in the NHL, has tied a record that has stood for 77 years.  He is only the second goaltender in HISTORY to start his career with 2 or fewer goals in his first 12 games.  Only two have done it in their first 10 games.  He has a chance to make history on Thursday, but he better not beat my Bruins ;)

http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/recap?id=2014021043&navid=nhl:topheads
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on May 03, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
Montreal: 53 penalty minutes.  Brandon Prust: 31 penalty minutes. (http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/boxscore?id=2014030212)  (I hate Montreal, so I'm super happy right now)

EDIT:  Allow me to tell you a tale of hubris and pride, a tale that has been told before to a much different outcome, and more often to the same.  To begin, the other outcome.  Back in 1994, Mark Messier made "The Guarantee".  After a stinging loss in Game 5, to go down in the series with the Devils 3-2, Messier told the press that "we will win Game 6".  Not one to back down on a promise, he scored a hat trick, and they won games 6 and 7, and eventually the Cup.  Fast forward to 2015, the Rangers are in a similar spot, but have already won games 5 and 6 to tie the series.  In comes the protagonist of our story, Alexander Ovechkin.  He too makes a promise.  "We will come back and win in Game 7" he says, exuding confidence.  But there is one problem.  He is but one man.  Messier inspired his team and his city.  Ovechkin inspired himself.  He scored his team's only goal, and went on to lose his fifth game seven, to once again miss the conference finals.

Tampa faces new York.  I predict New York in 7.

Chicago faces Anaheim.  I predict Chicago in 6, though it won't be a close 6.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on May 31, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
So!  Stanley Cup Final starts on Wednesday!  My Hawks are visiting the Tampa Bay Lightning.  The Blackhawks beat up the Ducks tonight, dealing them their 3rd consecutive game 7 home loss.  Only other team to lose 3 consecutive game 7s at home?  Washington in 2008-10.  ALL SIX of those loses came with the same coach, Bruce Boudreau, at the helm.

Also, an addendum to my previous tale of hubris.  One of the major storylines in the Anaheim-Chicago series was the physicality of the Ducks.  They kept saying "oh, we'll wear them down, we're hitting them hard, they can't take it".  After a game 5 win (they won in overtime after losing a 4-2 lead in the last 1:30 of the game on two quick, bad goals by Toews), Ryan Kessler said "No human can withstand that many hits".  Chicago out-skated, out-played, and out-endurance Anaheim in games 6 and 7 winning by a combined 10-5.  Their plan was to just hit and hit and hit the Hawks until they gave up, and they said that many times.  Before game 7 they said "every single hit, it all leads up to this.  We wore them down, and now we'll reap the rewards".  But by the end the only team that was tired was Anaheim.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on June 15, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
HAWKS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on June 19, 2015, 04:16:23 PM
My almost worthless hometown(-ish) paper
goes to print too early for any of the Champ
games for Hockey or Basketball.

Only day-after coverage on page 3 or 4.
Ha.  What is LeBron or Canada?
They don't understand why their sales go down.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 07, 2015, 11:55:21 AM
 An update on the NHL expansion that's totally not a set thing (it is. It's a set thing by now).  Las Vegas and Quebec City were the only two cities that filed their applications, which is a surprise because everyone (including me) thought Seattle was going to get an application through, and Quebec City wasn't even mentioned by anyone except people who thought they should.  Seattle's group that wanted a team couldn't get it together so they didn't submit an application.  The applications were accepted and now it's the second phase.  There's one more phase to go through, and it will be 2017-18 at the earliest when teams are added to these places.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 17, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
Vancouver is probably happy about Seattle fubar-ing their application.
NHL might be at it's limits, but could co-opt the College system like MLB
and/or affiliate with West Europe big cities.  I mean ... it'd be "money"
to get a 4th New York City team, or a 2nd Toronto or Chicago team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on August 17, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
As much as I'd like to see a West Europe/Scandinavia/Finland/Russia team set join, there is a major problem with that sort of thing, and that's travel time.  Because hockey teams play every other night on average, it would be a logistical nightmare to travel to those teams and to North American teams and back during a season.  Football has it much easier because you have a week between game.  So the plans floated to have a team in London aren't terrible for that league.

Yeah, Vancouver fans would hate to see Seattle join.  Just one more thing they can lose to Seattle at.  Though I'd probably root for Vancouver more often than not, and I hate the Cannucks and their fans.

And yeah, a lot of people were expecting Toronto to float a bid.  Chicago and New York not so much (and are you counting the Devils as the third New York team?)
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on August 18, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
Devils ... north New Jersey is weird.
They're a giant suburb of NYC and
proudly so when convenient.
Baseball = yankees
Football = New "York" Jets+Giants
Basketball = left town for Brooklyn
There's enough money there to support
their own baseball+football+basketball.

Yeah I have no idea how to make the logistics
for Euro+N.Am. teams in the same league.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 08, 2015, 10:18:41 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-texas-high-school-football-players-who-tackled-ref-suspended/

Worth noting: charges are being filed, and holy crap how do you do that?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on September 23, 2015, 02:10:33 PM
And update to the last article!

http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/high-school-coach-reportedly-admits-to-telling-players-to-attack-ref-092315

WOW, I was not expecting that.  I mean, I was after the students said that, but when the head coach said the things he did after the incident, I was expecting it was the kids doing it themselves (which admittedly was a bit weird, but I felt the head coach was being honest and sincere with his statements).  So we've gone full swing to the assistant coach admitting to telling them to do it, I don't know what's going to happen in the future.  That coach is getting some time in jail I would hope, I don't know what's going to happen to the kids.  Definitely some criminal charges, but maybe not jail?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on October 11, 2015, 12:19:13 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/10/10/boston-college-massively-botched-end-of-3-0-loss-to-wake-forest/

Final score: 3-0.  That's a football game.  not hockey, soccer, or baseball, football.  For the non-sports inclined, the most bast unit of scoring in football is 6 points (well, 7).  The second is 3.  That's a really impressive score.  Really, really impressive.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: dman11235 on February 07, 2016, 10:06:58 PM
And Denver wins its THIRD dirty super bowl!
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on September 27, 2018, 03:07:18 AM
[thread necro?]
[damn, way to stereotype, guys]

So, who's watching Khabib-v-Conor?  Who you got?
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Stratovarius on September 27, 2018, 06:37:58 AM
That'd be me. And Nurmy. Unless Conor lands one of his on-the-button punches.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on September 27, 2018, 11:57:21 AM
I'd say Conor has literally about 2 minutes to make that happen.
So, you know how Conor likes to start by prancing out to the middle of the cage and plant his feet to establish dominant posture?  I'm actually hoping that's when Khabib shoots for his first single-leg -- scare the shit outta that clown from opening bell and not let up.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: Stratovarius on September 27, 2018, 12:35:36 PM
Oh, I want to see Nurmy chain wrestle the Irish twerp into the ground over and over again and make a mockery of him once and for all.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on September 27, 2018, 12:49:13 PM
Bonus points if he breaks his own take-down record  :love
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: altpersona on September 27, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
I would love a nice clean display of 'How its done' from K.

imo, connors 'unorthodox' style is only 'great' against people who don't practice their techniques enough.

But, I thought Stipe was gonna take corm easy... so wtf do i know..
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on September 27, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
imo, connors 'unorthodox' style is only 'great' against people who don't practice their techniques enough.
... or who decide to throw the fight :hmm

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But, I thought Stipe was gonna take corm easy... so wtf do i know..
I was certainly worried about Stipe's footwork, accuracy, and range.  Turns out that enough study of Jones taught DC how to get away with eye-pokes  :sh
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on October 02, 2018, 09:26:23 PM
(disclaimer: mma happens to be the only sport I watch ... if you want other sports, that's on you)

Well, a month out from UFC 230, we finally have a main event for Madison Square Garden  .... wait for it ... Valentina Shevchenko vs Sijara Eubanks.

Joe Rogan hasn't even ever heard of Eubanks' name.   :blink

Take a bow, Dana White.  Not only have you completely shit on the rest of the card by giving a main event to a 3-2 TUF drop-out, but you also lost the much-anticipated Valentina-v-Joanna as the co-main for 231. 
Do you really hate Nate Diaz that much?  I understand not going for the whole new division thing; that's fine.  Hell, since you refused to give Jones ppv points (and rightly so) .... maybe you could have done yet another "interim" title for Rockhold-v-Weidman 2, with the winner getting a shot at the winner of Whitaker-v-Gastelum. 
Don't get me wrong, I love me some Valentina - she's my favorite female fighter, and easily top-5 fighter period - but this is a god-awful embarrassment.
Title: Re: It's time to sports!
Post by: wotmaniac on October 12, 2018, 02:52:25 AM
(sorry for delay)

okay, this past saturday -- good god, there's too much to cover in one post.  I'll summarize:
1) Long live the Eagle of Dagastan.
2) Tapper McNuggets needs to stay his ass home.
3) Ferguson is an absolute madman.
4) Derrick Lewis is Legend.