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The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:28:29 PM »
Yes, that's right, step right up and give Mr. Big T an Epic Destiny! He not only qualifies for the feat, he has teh feats to get rid of! (seriously, Toughness*6<Toughness*2 and EPIC DESTINY!)

I kinda like Demigod on the Tarrasque, just for the 1/day Miracle, though I can see the lure of Eternal Hero or Mythic Shadow (Mmmm... Touch Attacks.)

And it gets even better if you can figure out a method to get the Tarrasque the ability to Wildshape at least 1/day (Divine Minion template is success!), because you can grab the good old Force of Nature epic destiny (the Tarrasque is throwing Lightning Bolts and is tossing up tremors! U mad, bro?)
"There is happiness for those who accept their fate, there is glory for those that defy it."

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 09:45:30 PM »
How do you get demigod on Mr Big T?


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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 10:02:33 PM »
You take the Epic Destiny feat, which the Tarrasque is qualified for.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 10:24:32 PM »
You take the Epic Destiny feat, which the Tarrasque is qualified for.

Found it.  Thanks.  Alas, it's 4th edition, which is why I wasn't familiar with it.

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 10:29:45 PM »
You take the Epic Destiny feat, which the Tarrasque is qualified for.

Found it.  Thanks.  Alas, it's 4th edition, which is why I wasn't familiar with it.
They were adapted to 3.5 in an article on the website. I can't find the actual page within ten seconds of searching, so here's the relevant text.

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Homebrew Compendiums: D&D 3.5 4e/PF
IRC: #mmxgeneral on Rizon

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 10:30:10 PM »
And the rest:

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 10:33:17 PM »
It was removed from their website back around when essentials popped up; I have them saved on my computer, so I have easy access.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 10:52:07 PM »
Thanks.

Oddly enough, it reminds me of how Zap Brannagin defeated the killbot army.  "I knew the killbots had a pre-set kill limit, so I threw wave after wave of men at them"  The feat come with a pre-set finish - finish the quest, get turned into a quasi-diety or whatever, and get retired from the game.  Defeat the Tarrasque by helping it finish its quest.  Coolio   :smirk

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 10:57:20 PM »
Hmmm...

Eternal Hero: Even if you slay the Tarrasque, it comes back to life tomorrow. There isn't really anything you can do about this, except...

Help the Tarrasque with a quest!

Quick, aid the World-Devourer in saving the world from something even worse!

Fun times, and an EPIC idea for a high level game.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 03:01:52 PM »
Hmmm...

Eternal Hero: Even if you slay the Tarrasque, it comes back to life tomorrow. There isn't really anything you can do about this, except...

Help the Tarrasque with a quest!

Quick, aid the World-Devourer in saving the world from something even worse!

Fun times, and an EPIC idea for a high level game.
And then mid-quest, turn the tables around as you figure out that the Tarrasque was never the protaganist. Instead, it was sent to aid you in destroying Jean Eric Villain

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 03:24:43 PM »
Niice.


Another little set of rules, completely untouched.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 04:01:27 PM »
Artifact Lord

level 21 ... Take 20 on UMD = happy Artificers
and very happy Psi Arty that dipped for Magic Mantle.

level 24 ... situational, but very very good.

level 27 ... do it, PAO once or twice, perhaps a Fusion = debate
about how many goodies you get to keep. 
TO looper at pun-pun levels, can have magic item powers now.

level 30 ... call the Artifact, "Tag" it with something, Artifact disappears,
go find the Artifact, use it, Artifact disappears, repeat (!) and profit (!!)

reach start of level 31 = you've completed the EpicD, so ...
you get to remake your character in 4e, but with the Artifact rules too.
I've no idea what this will do in 4e, but I guarantee it's borkt.

Combine 27 + 31 = back door most powerful 3e stuff gets into 4e.
Like pun-pun's I Win ability, except limited by 4e Artifact rules.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2012, 04:06:26 PM »
Blade of Ragnarok

level 30 ... Deities that are Undead, can lose all turn resistance.
Small corner case way to beat a deity.



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EDIT --- see Zoiks below.  Doing this at level 20 is not much different.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 04:14:12 PM »
Demigod

level 21 (or level 12) ... Death Denied: At 21st level, you become resistant to attacks that would instantly kill you.
iirc --- one of the deity SDAs auto-kills a PC.  This was the unbreachable boundary.  Not anymore.

level 30 (or level 20) ... self generated Miracle = no deity snooping.  Plus you can
generate the dm fiat effect without any Q + A session with said deity.

reach start of level 31 (or level 21) ... hello DvR 1.  No need for abomination or
diplo deities like pun-pun, or the dragon ascendant PrC for dragons only.
Or having real followers / believers.


EDIT --- see Zoiks below.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 04:57:13 PM »
Here's the page on web archive.

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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 03:41:33 PM »
google ...
I found the Author of the article
had a discussion thread linking
back to the original article;
but it's a lost link (for now).
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75850/18830430/Epic_Destinies_in_3.5_Article
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2012, 06:24:22 PM »
ZOIKS !!

Variant: Non-Epic Epic Destinies

Despite the name, it's possible to use epic destinies at non-epic levels. If you don't feel like playing in an epic campaign, you can change the prerequisite of the Epic Destiny feat and the levels at which you replace feats with epic destiny features.
Epic Level Non-Epic Level
21st 12th
24th 15th
27th 18th
30th 20th
*The 20th-level feature doesn't replace a feat.

Keep in mind that the epic destiny features are much more powerful below epic level! Your game automatically has a higher power level than normal, and the power between characters is very unbalanced unless every character has an epic destiny. You can use tougher monsters to compensate, though you can give XP as though the monsters were lower CR to keep advancement at the rate you want.

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Psi Arty 11 / dip for Magic Mantle 1  ... add in Artifact Lord EpicD at level 12
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2012, 08:20:51 PM »
I actually played in a game where we were going to use that variant; too bad we never hit 12th level.
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Re: The Tarrasque, Epic Destinies, and You
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 06:14:35 PM »
Some of these are quite the dish, at level 12.  Hello C.O. Kitty
I mean if the Fighter was:
Generic Warrior + Dungeon Crasher + some of these EpicDs starting at 12
... it would be an actual tasty Fighter ; as in almost usable  :P



Eternal Hero

12 (21) 
Continual Res = pun-pun gets so annoyed at you he readies instadeath at you everyday.
... somebody in the party needs Plane Shifts and Teleports to get you back.
Death Denied ... like Demigod.

15 (24)
Psi Vigor item = 1*4*2000 gp = snore

20 (30)
+25 BAB and +11 Str Mod and +8 weapon and pick a +5 mod for it = rather nice switch-aroo in combat
Arcanist and Disciple = (sp) and standard rummage through any spell lists = very juicy items
... auto succeed the frontliner's Conc check is very nice.
level 8 Evils gets a meh.
Feels like one level of: we didn't have a magic mart, but now we do ... yippy.



Force of Nature
Useless without Wildshape.  This isn't my cup of tea.


Mythic Shadow
20 (30) --- is borkt in a very Very VERY good way.  Rest of it is flavor.


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