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[Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« on: November 08, 2011, 05:43:14 PM »
You probably already read all three of these but if you don't...

Order of the Stick
Is a stick figure style comic based on a group of adventurers in a D&D setting. the comic includes many jokes about the system, character development, and have a HUGE overall story arc to it. OotS was originally published in the Dragon Magazines as kinda of an episodic thing like Garfield but has since became something far much bigger & better.

Looking For A Group
Is brought to you by the guys that write The Least I Could Do, it's about the adventure of an elf and his companions which a hilariously evil warlock. Like anything developing into a good story it ends up into a huge arc and manages some character development too. All though less so than say OotS. Still an amazingly great read though.

Goblins
This one is less about making a good quip and while it has it's comic moments, it's mostly a serious. The plot followers two main sets of characters. The "Heros", their raid on the goblin village and progressively learning what evil really is. And the "Goblins", a race coined as evil but not necessarily so, they take Class Levels and become adventurer's in their own right. Also a great comic to get into.

My descriptions don't do them justice. Check them out.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 05:49:51 PM »
I used to really like Looking for Group, but in the past year or so it's almost completely lost my interest.  Trying to transition from a really funny parody to a serious story did not work well in my opinion. 

The other two are really good though. 

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 06:01:19 PM »
Does Goblins still have pretenses of being a shades-of-gray world rather than your normal adventuring story, just with good "monster" races and evil humans; and an agonizingly slow pace because Thunt insist on drawing inefficiently and showing us prolonged, pointless battle scenes?

Other than that, the comic is pretty good I guess. Although the "take that" its author did towards his readers as well as wall-of-text asspull exposition will not be forgiven any time soon.

Order of the Stick is rather good. Its forum, on the other hand...

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 10:58:46 PM »
I used to really like Looking for Group, but in the past year or so it's almost completely lost my interest.  Trying to transition from a really funny parody to a serious story did not work well in my opinion.
Most "funny" comics degenerate into a serious plot. LFG took to using Richard as the comic relief but are currently on a serious arc as a main character was killed off.

<snip>Goblins is slow, and picks at your brain on the concepts of good/evil and racism</snip>
Yeah I wish it updated faster or had more panels per update. :(

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 11:22:20 PM »
]Most "funny" comics degenerate into a serious plot. LFG took to using Richard as the comic relief but are currently on a serious arc as a main character was killed off.


I don't know, LCID remained funny for years and years, even if it took a turn to the serious now and then.  LFG turned serious, and since it was built using cheesy cliches (to make fun of), it's attempts at high drama are really falling flat.

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I'm sure I'll keep checking it periodically to see if it gets good again, but for now, I'm less than thrilled.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 11:25:01 PM »
LICD has no plot though. It's episodic.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 02:41:57 AM »
http://xkcd.com/

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 08:09:02 AM »
I've definitely had some good laughs from Goblins.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 11:50:19 AM »
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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 12:25:42 PM »
Commissioned deals in a lot of gamer-related topics, including an adventuring story(start at the bottom) with a small party of classic murdering characters, Dwarf, Elf (and Weretiger).

Unlike other comics, this one puts a great enphasis on the players and DM themselves and their reactions at the table.

It also has been going for quite some time, and if you're willing to dig trough the old archives, you can find plenty of more D&D adventures of the same group, from when they were just one-shots and then starting to form a coherent story. I highly recommend going trough the work of searching them to get the whole adventure, even if the author's just too lazy to properly archive them.

Does Goblins still have pretenses of being a shades-of-gray world rather than your normal adventuring story, just with good "monster" races and evil humans; and an agonizingly slow pace because Thunt insist on drawing inefficiently and showing us prolonged, pointless battle scenes?
Actualy, for the last months he's been quite good at sending two updates a week (tuesday and friday nights).

Plus the humans aren't all evil, and there's still plenty of truly evil monsters to go around for everybody.

The rest of your points still stand tough.

I'll also add that Goblins is relatively low level. Fullcasters are almost unheard off, and for god's sake, just look at the team compositions in term of classes:
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Finally I'll add that the begginning of the comic is 100% humor. Then it started to get more and more serious, untill... Well, you better read it.

Other than that, the comic is pretty good I guess. Although the "take that" its author did towards his readers as well as wall-of-text asspull exposition will not be forgiven any time soon.

What asspull did you mean? Perhaps
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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2011, 08:38:04 PM »
It has been a few month's since I read Commissioned. Since I have time now I'm probably going to try and catch up.

The one that the undead creature isn't something I would want to see in a real campaign but could work in a story. The problem with it in 3.5 it is to all or nothing, the CR seemed really off, and it didn't follow the rules of monster creation which makes it harder to make it interact with the various abilities and effects that already existed within the game.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 02:21:44 AM »
It has been a few month's since I read Commissioned. Since I have time now I'm probably going to try and catch up.

Didn't you mean Goblins there?

Anyway, if a comic is good but updates slowly, that's a good compromise. You just wait some months for updates to pile up, then you can have a nice read.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 05:41:13 PM »
I'll also add that Goblins is relatively low level. Fullcasters are almost unheard off, and for god's sake, just look at the team compositions in term of classes:
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To be fair, that one paladin is a dwarf, and he cheats his ass off.  I'd murder whole armies too if I didn't have to spend actions to do anything, and could pull crap like taking full cover in a direction with a tower shield while perfect two-weapon fighting and then some with a heavy crossbow in each hand, firing in the direction I'm taking full cover in and ignoring the give up attacks part completely.
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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 05:59:01 PM »
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Thank you for reminding me about that! I forgot the name when I stopped reading after they got to the Cyborg City.


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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 06:32:11 PM »
To be fair, that one paladin is a dwarf, and he cheats his ass off.  I'd murder whole armies too if I didn't have to spend actions to do anything, and could pull crap like taking full cover in a direction with a tower shield while perfect two-weapon fighting and then some with a heavy crossbow in each hand, firing in the direction I'm taking full cover in and ignoring the give up attacks part completely.

Hmmm, now that you mention it, that does sound like a bunch of great ACFs/fixes for a paladin! :p


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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 06:48:26 PM »
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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2011, 04:32:43 PM »
All of these comics are quite good.

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Re: [Comics] OotS, LFG, Goblins
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2011, 08:31:23 PM »
To be fair, that one paladin is a dwarf, and he cheats his ass off.  I'd murder whole armies too if I didn't have to spend actions to do anything, and could pull crap like taking full cover in a direction with a tower shield while perfect two-weapon fighting and then some with a heavy crossbow in each hand, firing in the direction I'm taking full cover in and ignoring the give up attacks part completely.
Actually I think Kore is a demonstration of Lawful Good taken to the extreme. Consider the author's idea of challenging your concepts of racism and good and evil already.

Oh, you probably meant killing an entire room of bad guys. Kore is pretty high level. Reflip through the comic and pay close attention when Ear's uses his Lay on Hands. Each time he has leveled up the display of magic has gotten bigger and more detailed. The big zoom out of Kore's skeleton wings when he used his Lay on Hands wasn't simply a splash panel, it told everyone Kore is a really high level Paladin. Of course he "attacked and hit" more times per round than anyone else and his "AC" was too high for the monsters to hit.