the OOC and general Q&A thread!

[jojolagger]

Who's Wob Niar?

It's an anagram. Once solved, it should be easy to connect to a character.

[ImperatorK]

Rainbow?

[Wrex]

Rainbow?

Two words. I assume "Bow Rain" although Rainbow works just as well.

[ImperatorK]

Rainbow.

[jojolagger]

Rainbow?

We have a winner!

Two words. I assume "Bow Rain" although Rainbow works just as well.

Bow rain can't be assumed applicable, even if it is likely... wait, this was the DM talking...   

Rainbow.

Exactly. Actually, can I sig that?

[ImperatorK]

Yes.

[Wrex]

Rainbow?

We have a winner!

Two words. I assume "Bow Rain" although Rainbow works just as well.

Bow rain can't be assumed applicable, even if it is likely... wait, this was the DM talking...   

Rainbow.

Exactly. Actually, can I sig that?

It's what HeadofVecna assumed. I was only carrying on the tradition of using things by someone else's appelation.

[Shiki]

Sobbing.

[HeadofVecna]

Badly injured and lying on the ground next to the whale-man, the winged woman rapidly rolled away a couple meters on her side (Tumble check (1d20+3=22)), escaping (safely) her assailant. Now on her knees and more or less free, she flew upward as high as she could.

I'm pretty certain you can't tumble while prone. Even if its possible, there would be a -10 on the check just to move 5 feet.

Crawling
You can crawl 5 feet as a move action. Crawling incurs attacks of opportunity from any attackers who threaten you at any point of your crawl.

Prone
The character is on the ground. An attacker who is prone has a -4 penalty on melee attack rolls and cannot use a ranged weapon (except for a crossbow). A defender who is prone gains a +4 bonus to Armor Class against ranged attacks, but takes a -4 penalty to AC against melee attacks.

Standing up is a move-equivalent action that provokes an attack of opportunity.

Sorry to go all rules lawyer. But since this is all player-versus-player, a laissez faire interpretation of the rules is likely to be problematic. On that point, the extra attack for a successful trip with the Improved Trip feat got skipped. Since I already previewed this post I'll roll in the next one. And again, sorry for piling on more misery Shiki

[HeadofVecna]

Attack roll

Rolled 1d20+9 : 6 + 9, total 15

Damage on hit

Rolled 1d8+10 : 2 + 10, total 12

[InnaBinder]

Poor Shiki.

[Quillwraith]

It appears Wob Niar has managed to get away, and the alliance - iron man can actually take control.
the hunter is seeking items, the kobold is up and dislikes the alliance, but everyone else has either run away, is on our team, or is in the process of being eaten. 

Who's Wob Niar?

It's funny how closely this is mimicking the actual book.

So the metalman is equivalent to Cato or Clove. The face-mask guy is foxface or thresh, and gelatinous cube ~= Glimmer.
Who is mimicing who otherwise?

Well that would be telling. 

Not really... it would be easy to figure out if I had the book around, I only ask because I don't.
Actually, I think spider is foxface or the guy who reprogrammed the mines.

[sirpercival]

It's funny how closely this is mimicking the actual book.

The face-mask guy is foxface or thresh

This seems obvious to me, though not perhaps a "fox".  Lol.

[Shiki]

Badly injured and lying on the ground next to the whale-man, the winged woman rapidly rolled away a couple meters on her side (Tumble check (1d20+3=22)), escaping (safely) her assailant. Now on her knees and more or less free, she flew upward as high as she could.

I'm pretty certain you can't tumble while prone. Even if its possible, there would be a -10 on the check just to move 5 feet.

Crawling
You can crawl 5 feet as a move action. Crawling incurs attacks of opportunity from any attackers who threaten you at any point of your crawl.

Prone
The character is on the ground. An attacker who is prone has a -4 penalty on melee attack rolls and cannot use a ranged weapon (except for a crossbow). A defender who is prone gains a +4 bonus to Armor Class against ranged attacks, but takes a -4 penalty to AC against melee attacks.

Standing up is a move-equivalent action that provokes an attack of opportunity.

Sorry to go all rules lawyer. But since this is all player-versus-player, a laissez faire interpretation of the rules is likely to be problematic. On that point, the extra attack for a successful trip with the Improved Trip feat got skipped. Since I already previewed this post I'll roll in the next one. And again, sorry for piling on more misery Shiki

The forgotten hit is all good, but it doesn't say in the prone condition's description that these are the only move actions possible while prone, neither does it say in the description of the tumble skill that you can't use the skill while prone. I'm not sure how you came up with a -10 mod to tumble also.

[ImperatorK]

Tumble says you can do it as part of normal movement. Crawling isn't normal movement.
On the other hand, it says you can take -10 to Tumble at your full speed, which is quicker than normal, so... it can both ways. But "crawling isn't normal movement" is more reasonable, IMO.

[phaedrusxy]

If you put any weight in the Rules of the Game articles at all...

Tumbling While Crawling: Though the rules don't say so, there's no reason you can't can tumble 5 feet as a move action when prone. The check DC is 20.

Although it explicitly says that this is not covered by the rules... So...

[jojolagger]

If you put any weight in the Rules of the Game articles at all...

Tumbling While Crawling: Though the rules don't say so, there's no reason you can't can tumble 5 feet as a move action when prone. The check DC is 20.

Although it explicitly says that this is not covered by the rules... So...

I guess that makes that Rules of the Game article the primary source here.
If memory serves, the 16 implied all D&D 3.5 was allowed, meaning that article is probably fine.


Also, regarding crawling =/= normal movement, normal movement is never defined, and could even be considered any use of a move action.

[VennDygrem]

I would assume that since crawling gets its own subsection under Move actions, that it does not count as "normal movement."

Besides, even if you tumble 5 feet, that doesn't put you out of reach of something with a 10-ft reach, unless you tumble a second time and by then you're out of actions and all you did was roll a few feet away.

[jojolagger]

Besides, even if you tumble 5 feet, that doesn't put you out of reach of something with a 10-ft reach, unless you tumble a second time and by then you're out of actions and all you did was roll a few feet away.

It does if they only moved to just within reach when they went to hit. I think whaleman wanted to avoid the AoO from tripping, and moved to just close enough for him to hit.

[Wrex]

Whaleman should get a hit in anyway though, considering I dun fucked up and forgot he had improved trip. Fuck you sleep deprevation!