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Title: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Prime32 on November 02, 2012, 07:44:22 AM
So after a few years I was thinking of getting back into it, and it's more fun with a group. Anyone game?
EDIT: Orien server, looks like.

It's free to download (http://www.ddo.com/), you just can't access some of the more exotic races and classes. (getting a VIP subscription unlocks everything, and you still have a Premium account afterwards; you can buy stuff individually but it's not as efficient)

EDIT: Apparently there is some kind of referral reward (http://my.ddo.com/rewards), so if anyone gets the game because of this post, tipping me off would be nice. :p Already got three people to agree. Anyone else who wants a cube speak up and see if anyone else will take your referrals.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: betrayor on November 02, 2012, 09:00:44 AM
So it is free to play now then?
I wanted to try it back when you had to subscribe for it but my brother convinced me to play WoW......
Isn't this game set in Eberron?
Do you need a really good system to play?If not I will consider downloading if I can find the space in my hard disk and spare time to play it.....

Edit:Typos
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Garryl on November 02, 2012, 09:53:29 AM
So after a few years I was thinking of getting back into it, and it's more fun with a group. Anyone game?

It's free to download (http://www.ddo.com/), you just can't access some of the more exotic races and classes. (subscribing for any length of time unlocks almost everything, and they remain unlocked afterwards; you can buy stuff individually but it's not as efficient)

EDIT: Apparently there is some kind of referral reward (http://my.ddo.com/rewards), so if anyone gets the game because of this post, tipping me off would be nice. :p

I used to play, although I haven't in a year and a half or so. It was fun, but got a bit repetitive in the end. I think I ultimately got an 8th or 9th level Rogue/Ranger and a 10th level Paladin, though I don't remember which server.

Note that as a free-to-play player, you're also limited to a small subset of the available content, too. There's a healthy supply of free quests up to level 6 or so, but it dries up rapidly beyond that.

So it is free to play now then?
I wanted to try it back when you had to subscribe for it but my brother convinced me to play WoW......
Isn't this game set in Eberron?
Do you need a really good system to play?If not I will consider downloading if I can find the space in my hard disk and spare time to play it.....

Edit:Typos

Yeah, it's been free to play for a long while now. It's set in Eberron, although they recently expanded into other campaign settings (mostly FR) with some of the new content.

You don't need a great system to play. I played just fine (albeit at minimal graphics and with some frame rate issues in large battles) on a laptop that's currently 7 years old. This was about 2 years ago, I think.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: sirpercival on November 02, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
However, you do need to have Windows...  :(
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Jackinthegreen on November 02, 2012, 10:16:27 AM
I've played it before and gotten up to 6th level or so with a fighter/rogue, but I eventually stopped since I felt it ate up more of my time and hard drive space than I liked, plus it was a but difficult being on my own.  Sure I was in a guild for a bit, but it always felt like I was alone.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: betrayor on November 02, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
However, you do need to have Windows...  :(

Ha..
That;s more than ok since I am an (ir)rational Apple hater.....
I see if I can try it during the weekend....
How can I refer you though?Would it be possible since I am from Europe?
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Prime32 on November 02, 2012, 10:42:01 AM
How can I refer you though?Would it be possible since I am from Europe?
I am also from Europe. :eh

The way it works is, an existing player goes to this page (http://my.ddo.com/rewards) and enters your email address, then you click the sign up link in the email.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: linklord231 on November 02, 2012, 11:23:14 AM
One of my friends recently decided that we need to play more videogames together and suggested DDO since it's free and she knows I like D&D.  So now I have a first level Cleric on the Thelanis (or something) server. 
I'd be interested in finding out if they made in-combat healing worthwhile, or if MMO style "tanking" actually works now, or various other things that are common knowledge for us but might be counterintuitive in an MMO. 
Any build advice for a cleric and/or paladin?
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Prime32 on November 02, 2012, 01:04:46 PM
Well, I know DDO uses the social skills for aggro mechanics, and that it's possible for a tank to stand in a doorway and have allies shoot past him. http://ddowiki.com/ could be helpful.

Also, "enhancements" are a big part of character builds (you get one for each 25% of a level you gain), with prestige classes being replaced by enhancement chains.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Jackinthegreen on November 02, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Intimidate does work for aggro in DDO.  Damage too is useful for threat of course.

I haven't gotten very far in the grand scheme of things but healing in combat is often needed.  I'm not sure how necessary it is for those with excellent gear and specs though.

If you want to start off on the right foot I'd recommend looking at their forums. (http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=81)  Of particular note is the official forums keep mentioning how out of date the wiki is, so anyone looking at that should be wary.

One of the things I've always wanted to try in DDO is a khopesh Kensei build because in the game they have 19-20/x3 crit.  After the crit math I've done I can see it being quite powerful, but of course I'd need to look at all the options to really tweak it right.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Garryl on November 02, 2012, 03:54:09 PM
Paladins are great for soloing at low levels (and probably mid-high levels as well). You have good damage (2H weapon + Smite goes a long way), good tankiness (heavy armor alone is fine for low levels), and good self-healing (LoH provides crazy burst healing, and wands of CLW are a dime a dozen for out of combat healing).
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Nanshork on November 02, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
I used to play, I haven't touched it in years though.....
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on November 02, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
I used to play too, in fact the toon I made is a WF Arty. I quit shortly after the Expansion through due to guild reasons. Simply put, I apparently have too much of a life off the computer to play DDO.

However, if you guys want to join Cannith, and don't give a crap about omg reown loss, maybe I could be persuaded.

***

On a more personal note, I'm not at all impressed by end game Paladins.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: Prime32 on November 03, 2012, 09:21:18 AM
One of the things I've always wanted to try in DDO is a khopesh Kensei build because in the game they have 19-20/x3 crit.  After the crit math I've done I can see it being quite powerful, but of course I'd need to look at all the options to really tweak it right.
Looking at the wiki, it would be interesting to try a half-elf monk 2/ranger 11 with Zen Archery, Rogue Dilettante and Past Life: Druid (the one that grants you a flame blade SLA). Though that would require getting a druid to lv20 first...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on April 26, 2017, 10:14:49 AM
So... let's cast Animate Dead on this thread... Anyone still play this, ever? I'm thinking of giving it another shot... If I could get in with a group it would certainly help... I remember being very frustrated last time I tried it and quitting not too far into it...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on April 26, 2017, 12:39:40 PM
It's been quite a bit, I'm totally up for running another character. Major preference towards Cannith through due to having multiple epic level characters and a high level guild I can get you all invited to provided Raz still don't have a life.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: ketaro on April 26, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
Last time I played it, while the beginner zone docks was plenty full of content, by the time you got to the next zone, which was more inner city, it was like more than half the dungeons required a paid account to get into to and the content for free players significantly dropped to where you had to start grinding the same shit over just to keep going. And that was only around level 6-8. Maybe a year or two ago too. Three tops. But, eh....it still felt terrible. Much better when it first launched...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on April 26, 2017, 03:10:47 PM
It's been quite a bit, I'm totally up for running another character. Major preference towards Cannith through due to having multiple epic level characters and a high level guild I can get you all invited to provided Raz still don't have a life.
I made a dwarven cleric on Cannith, named Ulfdag Hammerskald. Got him to level 2 so far. :p (I saw that you mentioned Cannith earlier in the thread).

I got in a party with a rogue and a mage earlier, and ran around outside the newbie town a bit. We went through a level 2 dungeon where you unlock some crystals to free the dragon from the control of a mindflayer. Was pretty awesome, I thought. :D Trying to decide what to do with these "action points" now...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on April 26, 2017, 07:34:22 PM
And that was only around level 6-8.
You should have kept exploring. After noob island is the Harbor which then gives access to the Market, which as the central hub for Eberron has access to all the other secondary areas and of course advertises the pay areas. You're just supposed to run past them through.

In all there is quite a few free quests. Lv1 14, lv2 18, lv3 9, lv4 8, lv5 5, lv6 9, lv7 5, lv8 7, lv9 1, lv10 4, lv11 4, lv12 5, lv13 2, lv14 1, lv15 5, lv16 5, lv17 1, lv18 1, then four epics. Under the Difficulty system, every one of those can be reduced by one level (poor choice) or increased by two. So for example a lv9 character has 13 quests open to them which can be ran twice per day without any XP penalties, another 9 can be continued to run at a -10% rate, and you can try to run quests a level or two higher than you too but you'll probably need a bit of help. In other words, that "empty" range you spoke of easily has 22 quests to run off free content alone. Through obviously if you like running a quest once, and only once, you're pretty SoL given the genre is all about repetition.

Running all the quests, including the epics, gives 1,493 favor worth 350 Turbine Points (and another 500tp for first character on said server). At this point admit you can just admit that you spend a couple weeks playing a game you enjoy, and spend a Steam-level of ten bucks on Turbine Points giving you enough to pick up both the Vale & Gianthold. Overall they give you the most for your buck, great items, lots of quests, bunch of new raid content, they double down and give Epic quests, plus GH has a Saga reward. Once you complete every quest in the area at least once you can turn in for bonus +46,000xp, you can do this as many times as you like irregardless of your actual level so long as you complete each quest once.

Eventually, by the time you want to try out epics, you'll ether want to actually pay for the game or be so fed up you leave. But if you throw another fifty bucks at it you should access a huge chunk of Faerun's content. Either way, you probably spent far more time online playing this game than what could be considered a healthy amount :p

I made a dwarven cleric on Cannith, named Ulfdag Hammerskald. Got him to level 2 so far.
Cool. I'll try to patch up and email you in game.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on April 26, 2017, 08:10:17 PM
I wouldn't even know how to check an email in game... Do you mean via a /tell? Or do I have an email account? :p
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on April 27, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
I wouldn't even know how to check an email in game... Do you mean via a /tell? Or do I have an email account? :p
They actually have an in-game mailing system you can use to send letters, items, and gold to offline players. In fact, after those runs last night you probably already have some mail for favor. To check it, do you recall where the banker was? It's due west from there, a floating/chiming/annoying thing. "Confirmed" is from the game and anyone on your friend's list while "unconfirmed" is everyone else.

Anyone else want to join? Phae made it to lv3 last night and is running a Cleric, I simply started at lv4 off my veteran bonus and I'm simply running a Warlock.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on April 27, 2017, 04:17:24 PM
LFG! :p

BTW, I didn't friend your new character (Slost)... I only got your original one.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on April 27, 2017, 07:23:05 PM
Eh w/e.

I really wish I could reincarnate my artificer but he's at level 28 and I need to hit 30 to pick up the epic reincarnate bonus, plus I need to run the Vale once or twice to finish off a MinII Heavy Repeater unless I just pick up some low cells. And that's where they get you too, just another million xp and just another run and you can start playing all over again!  :shakefist

All well, maybe once you get high enough I'll switch to my other monk.

Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on May 22, 2017, 11:48:50 PM
Got the dwarf cleric to 9th and a halfling rogue  to 1/wiz 6 now. The rogue/wiz is a lot funner to solo with, just because it takes forever to kill anything with the dwarf (but he's a lot harder to kill himself). :p Hiring a cleric NPC helps a ton with the halfling, though, especially since I learned that you can have them pick up your soulstone and take it to the ressurection shrine... There's been a few occasions where I died early in a fight only to have my pet skeleton and cleric hireling finish off the encounter and cart my soulstone to the shrine to resurrect me. :D
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on May 23, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
Grats on 9th and getting the Wizard up there, we could probably run your first raid soon.

Speaking of, I played with a bow build some for some quick in-game feedback. If anyone else is wanting to jump in but finding character creation and the new dynamics confusing...

I suggest Human Rogue 1 / Ranger 6 using 8/18/14/10/12/8, take Point Blank Shot & Magical Training with Favored Enemy(undead). Precise Shot at level 3, and switch to Fighter after level 6 for four levels and Feats get pretty complicated but you'll want to finish out the chain for Shot on the Run and Weapon Specialization to negate penalties for kiting and add an extra +7% to your total damage calculation in the form of "ranged power". Arcane Archer for enhancements with Deepwood for Dex-To-Damage. It's free-to-play based, excellent survivability, great for solo, and should keep up damage wise with most end game builds which is why it seems a little complicated (and trust me the details are).

If you want a caster instead, I'd recommend Human Sorcerer taking both Maximize and Empower Spell at level 1 and focus on Cha/Con with about 10~12 Str for packing items, like D&D you do not really need Dexterity to hit people but you will want to dump your Skill Points into Spellcraft & UMD so 10 Int is kind of needed. All Enhancement-based SLAs ignore Spellpoint cost for Metamagic Feats allowing you to increase the damage they deal by +225%. At the third level or so you can use Electric Loop to smack a three enemies for an easy 60 damage and Daze them even if they survive and later one it can even generate extra Spell Points for you to use to nuke them with your actual Spells.

And if you want a pure brute, honestly I'd go with Fighter over Barbarian simply because the latter needs his hand held by a healer. Obviously take Power Attack and Cleave asap. If you want to be a spoony Bard through, I'd suggest some Ranks in Balance which is required for Single Weapon Fighting. Bards can use Bucklers while still using that Feat gain's +35% attack speed bonus as part of Swashbuckler.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on June 05, 2017, 09:14:20 PM
Halfling is now rogue 2/wizard 6. I tried the Xorian quest last night in an Elite group... and was dismayed to find out that my cleric's Wis is too low (at 20) to activate some of the runes...

My son is going to start playing occasionally with me, on the weekends. I'm in China right now with my family, but going back to the US in two weeks while they stay here for another three. So the online game will be one way to do something with him. Is the Voice chat easy to use?
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 05, 2017, 10:04:00 PM
Is the Voice chat easy to use?
Yes & no, it's what I was trying to use with the laptop's built in but failed. Works fine with a headset through and it runs on a separate connection so in-game lag doesn't affect it even if you can't type into chat anymore.

Glad you're back too, I'll hope in game tomorrow or so and hope to catch you.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on June 05, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
I probably won't be on much at all except a bit on the weekends for another two weeks. My wife took a 5 day solo Japan trip, and the kids were in school. So I had some alone time for the last week. :p Starting in two weeks, I'll probably be playing a bit at night, though.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on July 20, 2017, 05:04:57 AM
My Warlock is getting a massive nerf :(

* Eldritch Blast's base damage is decreasing from 9d6 to 6d6.
* Eldritch Burst's damage is decreasing from 3d6 to 1d6.
* Spirit Blast's damage is decreasing from 10d6 to 4d6.
* Spiritual Retribution's damage is decreasing from 3d6 to 3d4.
These are huge changes, from 22d6 (616 @700ish spellpower) to 10d6+3d4 (340).
So yeah, running around dealing 1/2 damage will suck balls.

Buuuuuut Artificers are getting buffed!
* You no longer run at half speed for using your Runearm.
* They fire 30% faster.
* The -40~-10% Spellpower penalty on Runearm shots has been removed.
* Runearm Imbue now scales with 200% Spellpower.
* Enhancements rehualed, freebie +15 MRR/PRR, extra +2 int, Fusillade went from lasting 6 seconds to 18, new choices include +10% double strike & +20 ranged power, lots of goodies here. Really thinking of TRing if this goes live.

Edit - Also a few packs are just not selling so they buffed loot from there. To give you an idea of their desperation the Sharn Syndicate's Bellow's Ring is Minimum Level 2 and if the change goes live it'll now offer a staggering +60hp (plus it's unbound, but will probably be overpriced for a few weeks). Red Ferns's loot got some buffs but nothing huge there.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on December 17, 2017, 01:08:37 AM
Got on this weekend with my son because they’re running a deal to let anyone start new characters at level 10... and found that the guild I’d been in was gone...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on March 28, 2018, 05:50:25 PM
So to repoke the thread.

Logging in now till April 1st will give you a cosmetic item (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Twelve_Year_Old_Cake) (forces all your armor to look like X). Is anyone interested in trying it out? It's free, join Cannith and I can toss some healing pots your way, and due to the level ranges on Quests you don't have to worry too much if you play more than someone else.
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on March 28, 2018, 07:19:09 PM
I logged in a few months ago. It took forever to update... They were letting people level up to 10th for free, so my son and I made a couple of new characters to try out. We haven't been on since that couple of hours that night. :D
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on March 29, 2018, 11:11:23 AM
Cool, did you find a new class you liked?
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on March 29, 2018, 01:04:03 PM
Cool, did you find a new class you liked?
I made a multiclassed barb/rog/ftr and a sorcerer. I liked both. (I wanted some characters with high DPS. I was tired of thumping away forever with the cleric when soloing, and the rogue/wizard was only slightly better). My son made a couple of others, but wound up liking his original ranger better in the end.

In unrelated news... I was the only member online within the past 15 minutes when posting this... Our boards have evaporated...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on March 29, 2018, 05:09:14 PM
and a sorcerer. I liked both. (I wanted some characters with high DPS.
If you wanted some DPS all you had to do was ask :D

I'm not sure what you have access to, presumably lv4 & PB32 by now, you could make a Human Sorcerer 4. Str 14, Con 16, Cha 18, rest 8s. Focus on Spellcraft & UMD for now. Take Maximize & Empower at level 1 then Quicken at lv3, Metamagic's simply consume Spell Points so you don't need higher level 'Slots' and they are totally free with Spell-like Abilities.

Assuming level 4, focus entirely on Air Savant. Take Shocking Grasp x3 and open your Character Sheet, click the tab to Enhancements, drag it to your hotbar, right click on it and turn all your Metamagic Feats on. For the rest of your AP Electrocution & Alternating Current x3, this will give you two lovely things. The first is up to +25 spellpower and the second is you have a 30% chance to generate 3sp, which is great given Shocking Hands costs 2sp. Take the Core ability (bottom row) once more and then Critical increase.

Your Spellpower should look like Spellcraft_Modifier (idk 7 or more after buffs), +20 (air cores), +12 (16ap spent in air), +42 (equipment: magnetism +42, it's ml4), +25 (electrocution), +150 (maximize), +75 (empower), plus you can add Guild/Potion bonuses on top of that so your shocking Grasp will deal (5d3+15)+331%, or about 140ish damage every four seconds without even denting your Spell Points. At level 6 you can take the 3rd Core Ability increasing the base damage to 6d3+18, and you'll obtain access to the SLA version of Electric Loop x3. It deals about the same damage (reflex halves), but strikes everyone nearby and makes them Save against being Dazed. You can take Heighten at level 6 and apply apply all your Metamagics to it. The net gain is a Spell usable once per five seconds that hits everything and probably deals like 180 damage at that point then most trash is rendered helpless while you "Touch" anything that survived and wait for the cooldown to be over. And we haven't even talking about the Spells that will actually drain your spell Points yet.  :D

My 30th level Sorcerer is actually an Air Sav focused on Fire, will clickies I think he hits like 900 Spellpower with Scorching Ray (not even an SLA) dealing something a bit over a thousand damage per casting and it barely dents his Spell Points thanks to almost always gaining +13sp back. The main difference is Fire sucks against several Raid bosses (like all the devils), but Immolation gives you a free 20d6+Spellpower source of damage that ticks every two seconds while Air's Conduction only applies Vulnerability (target takes +20% more dmg) which I apply just by throwing a Shuriken while waiting on cooldowns.

Thanks to being offline for 8 months my sorcerer is unguilded for me to grab a screen shot. So here, have a picture of my lv28 Monk smacking a a training dummy and dealing over six thousand damage without even having all of his buffs applied.
(click to show/hide)

In unrelated news... I was the only member online within the past 15 minutes when posting this... Our boards have evaporated...
Chat has also taken up some attention, since it's logged/multichannel/editable you can chat in there and get a faster response without worrying about remaining logged in.

Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: phaedrusxy on March 29, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
I could just respec the sorcerer I already made and leveled up to 10th, right? (Although honestly I don't know when/if I'll ever have time to play this...) And I thought I'd read somewhere that they'd started charging spell points to apply metamagic to SLAs?...
Title: Re: Any DDO players here?
Post by: SorO_Lost on March 29, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
I could just respec the sorcerer I already made and leveled up to 10th, right?
Depends on the Feats obviously, it gets pretty expensive to replace them all if you need to.

And what you're probably talking about is SLAs are not affected by total cost reduction, like Magical Efficiency can reduce the cost of Spells by 10% but not SLAs.