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Lore school learning all the nonwizard spells in the game
« on: June 08, 2020, 10:30:10 PM »
I noticed something amusing in the lore school which supposedly comes from unearthed arcana (I do not own the book and have to rely on the wiki, which is unreliable as people often post their homebrew and claim it is official).
http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wizard:lore-mastery

Their level 14 ability is
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Master of Magic
At 14th level, your knowledge of magic allows you to duplicate almost any spell. As a bonus action, you can call to mind the ability to cast one spell of your choice from any class’s spell list. The spell must be of a level for which you have spell slots, you mustn’t have it prepared, and you follow the normal rules for casting it, including expending a spell slot. If the spell isn’t a wizard spell, it counts as a wizard spell when you cast it. The ability to cast the spell vanishes from your mind when you cast it or when the current turn ends.

You can’t use this feature again until you finish a long rest.
The key part is
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it counts as a wizard spell when you cast it
5e still does not have official magic item crafting rules (but there are a few unofficial ones).
but in previous editions the key component to craft a scroll was being able to cast the spell.

So in theory once the official scroll rules are out, you could use this feature to create a scroll with a wizard version of any spell ever printed in 5e. And then copy it from the scroll into your spellbook as a wizard spell regardless of which class it originally belonged to.

Just an amusing wizard lifehack I thought I would share
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 10:36:00 PM by mrttao »

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Re: Lore school learning all the nonwizard spells in the game
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2020, 08:06:31 PM »
Hey, yeah.

It's quite fabulous.  We discussed it around here, when it first came out.
http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17797.0
Link on the first post  (I've no idea if that wiki got it word-for-word).
It's better than wish, 'cause you can cast (!) another 9 and learn more 9s on your own.
Whole multi-year series of Unearthed Arcana.

Crafting?
Most people seem quite unhappy with how stupid proof + simple it is.
3.5e had a make anything interpretation of the Artificer
and the MIC had an almost wishlist option (nigh universally ignored).
4e followed this lead with wishlist and 1 ritual crafting = near automatic.
So as unrewarding as 5e crafting is fluffed not at all ... it does work.
And you'll still be grumpy about it.
 
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Re: Lore school learning all the nonwizard spells in the game
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 09:56:59 PM »
Hey, yeah.

It's quite fabulous.  We discussed it around here, when it first came out.
http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17797.0
Link on the first post  (I've no idea if that wiki got it word-for-word).
It's better than wish, 'cause you can cast (!) another 9 and learn more 9s on your own.
Whole multi-year series of Unearthed Arcana.

Crafting?
Most people seem quite unhappy with how stupid proof + simple it is.
3.5e had a make anything interpretation of the Artificer
and the MIC had an almost wishlist option (nigh universally ignored).
4e followed this lead with wishlist and 1 ritual crafting = near automatic.
So as unrewarding as 5e crafting is fluffed not at all ... it does work.
And you'll still be grumpy about it.
Yea.
And thank you for that link