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Title: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 11, 2012, 10:18:29 AM
Because we need one?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Harald on August 11, 2012, 03:06:02 PM
Right. I have a question :
I'm going to do a martial bard 2- Wardancer 18 (not in that order), but to allow them to work together, I'll need the Song of the White Raven feat. Am I allowed to swap one of the school of each of this class to White Raven ? I was thinking of Dancing Leaf and Crescent Moon.
Or, if we keep the current schools, Can I use a "Steps of the Dancing Fox"(as it is in both classes) extrapolation of the SoWR feat, changing basically the school ?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 11, 2012, 03:18:06 PM
Right. I have a question :
I'm going to do a martial bard 2- Wardancer 18 (not in that order), but to allow them to work together, I'll need the Song of the White Raven feat. Am I allowed to swap one of the school of each of this class to White Raven ? I was thinking of Dancing Leaf and Crescent Moon.
Or, if we keep the current schools, Can I use a "Steps of the Dancing Fox"(as it is in both classes) extrapolation of the SoWR feat, changing basically the school ?

Actually, what I should probably do is write a feat for Wardancer than can substitute for SotWR.  Perform (Dance) is still Perform, after all, and I think there are some folks who would like that.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 11, 2012, 08:56:47 PM
Right. I have a question :
I'm going to do a martial bard 2- Wardancer 18 (not in that order), but to allow them to work together, I'll need the Song of the White Raven feat. Am I allowed to swap one of the school of each of this class to White Raven ? I was thinking of Dancing Leaf and Crescent Moon.
Or, if we keep the current schools, Can I use a "Steps of the Dancing Fox"(as it is in both classes) extrapolation of the SoWR feat, changing basically the school ?

How about we change the feat so you can use it for a school of your choice that fits thematically?
(Preq.:
Bardic music (inspire courage), one school x maneuver,
Benefit:
While you are in any school x stance, you can activate your bardic music ability to inspire courage as a swift action. Your crusader, warblade and wardancer levels stack with your bard levels to determine the bonus granted by your inspire courage ability.)

I don`t think it is necessary to swap around whole schools just for the purpose of this feat.The creator got his reasons why certain schools are on the list and others aren`t.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 12, 2012, 01:49:42 AM
My character is pretty much done mechanically, unless someone has a better idea as for the feats I should take. I'll get a background up either later tonight, or tomorrow night.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 12, 2012, 02:22:29 PM
My character is pretty much done mechanically, unless someone has a better idea as for the feats I should take. I'll get a background up either later tonight, or tomorrow night.

Take your time.This all went up pretty fast anyway and we still need to wait for InnaBinder`s character.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 12, 2012, 05:54:11 PM
My character is pretty much done mechanically, unless someone has a better idea as for the feats I should take. I'll get a background up either later tonight, or tomorrow night.

Knowledge Devotion seems like it would be fantastic for your character, but you can wait til lvl 3 for that.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 12, 2012, 06:00:55 PM
OK, so I have a feats dilemma.  I either want to take Void Burst (which lets me do level x d4 damage as a standard action up to 60 ft), so I can stay out of melee as much as possible; or I want to take Healing Touch, which gives me unlimited out-of-combat healing.  Which is more useful?  I'm leaning toward the latter, but if someone else is going to be able to provide healing, I may use Void Burst.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 12, 2012, 06:12:21 PM
I don't think anyone else is capable of healing at the moment, so Healing Touch might be more beneficial to the group as a whole.  Then again, that might change once we find out what InnaBinder (and Brujon?  Maybe?) is playing.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 12, 2012, 06:19:12 PM
InnaBinder wanted a Watershugenja so healing should be covered if he stays with that decision.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: brujon on August 12, 2012, 07:27:32 PM
Is Incarnum, Tome of Battle and Psionics ok?

I kind of have been meaning to play a Psycarnum King of Smack. Incarnum for cool immunities, general utilities, and augumentable claws, Psionics for expansion and cool claw powers, Tome of Battle for more efficient action use.

Is it ok?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 12, 2012, 07:30:24 PM
Oh yeah.Here are the building rules

Quote from: me
We will start level 1 with 2 flaws and 32. point buy.Races should be Humanoid.(In its semantic sense).All official 3.5 material and pre-asked Homebrew is allowed.

As for Houserules:I don`t have any particular but if you desperately want to play a "Monk" we will come up with something.

Optimization wise: You can have cool characters but play it fair.So mid-high level.No Incarnate Construct,Nightstick stacking or kotw shenanigans for example.
I don`t want to have to set the CR on 5 above the PC´s to have a fun fight.

So sure.All those books are allowed.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 12, 2012, 07:35:30 PM
Are you making any changes to crappy feats like Weapon Focus or Dodge?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 12, 2012, 07:41:52 PM
Is Incarnum, Tome of Battle and Psionics ok?

I kind of have been meaning to play a Psycarnum King of Smack. Incarnum for cool immunities, general utilities, and augumentable claws, Psionics for expansion and cool claw powers, Tome of Battle for more efficient action use.

Is it ok?

Woo!  Glad to see you get to play  :D
Also good that we have someone in our party to take advantage of all the damage boosts Harald is going to be handing out.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 12, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
Are you making any changes to crappy feats like Weapon Focus or Dodge?

I never saw any reason to tbh.There are oh so MANY crappy feats and fixing few kinda means I had to fix them all.Equal rights you know.Normally I tell my players:"You don`t like the feat?Don`t take it then.You got enough to chose from"  :p

Jokes aside: If one of you wants fixes though you are free to present your solutions and we can play with them.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 12, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
Are you making any changes to crappy feats like Weapon Focus or Dodge?

I never saw any reason to tbh.There are oh so MANY crappy feats and fixing few kinda means I had to fix them all.Equal rights you know.Normally I tell my players:"You don`t like the feat?Don`t take it then.You got enough to chose from"  :p

Jokes aside: If one of you wants fixes though you are free to present your solutions and we can play with them.

Well, I have a bunch of feat fixes in my houserules (which are being used in some form in High Arcana).
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: brujon on August 12, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
Oh yeah.Here are the building rules

Quote from: me
We will start level 1 with 2 flaws and 32. point buy.Races should be Humanoid.(In its semantic sense).All official 3.5 material and pre-asked Homebrew is allowed.

As for Houserules:I don`t have any particular but if you desperately want to play a "Monk" we will come up with something.

Optimization wise: You can have cool characters but play it fair.So mid-high level.No Incarnate Construct,Nightstick stacking or kotw shenanigans for example.
I don`t want to have to set the CR on 5 above the PC´s to have a fun fight.

So sure.All those books are allowed.

Great... Is eberron stuff allowed? I wanted to take Monastic Training + Tashalatora feats in order to stack Monk Levels + Psychic Warrior levels for purposes of Unarmed Strike, AC, fast movement and slow fall. I'd start at 1st level as a Synad monk, go for another level of monk, then pursue Psychic Warrior levels for a bit (Getting the Mantled Warrior ACF for Nature), dip Totemist so i can get meldshaping (Blink Shirt, Sphinx Claws... lot's of good stuff), get more Psychic Warrior to get Psionic Open Chakra (and thus get my meldshaping on), probably topping it off with something from Tome of Battle if the campaign gets that far.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 12, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
Are you making any changes to crappy feats like Weapon Focus or Dodge?

I never saw any reason to tbh.There are oh so MANY crappy feats and fixing few kinda means I had to fix them all.Equal rights you know.Normally I tell my players:"You don`t like the feat?Don`t take it then.You got enough to chose from"  :p

Jokes aside: If one of you wants fixes though you are free to present your solutions and we can play with them.

Well, I have a bunch of feat fixes in my houserules (which are being used in some form in High Arcana).
I don`t particular care since I belief it kinda works as it is.There are bad feats and everyone knows it.But thats not really all that bad in my opinion.

So what I am saying is basically:It is up to the party.But inform me before we start so I can work with the fixes as well.

Oh yeah.Here are the building rules

Quote from: me
We will start level 1 with 2 flaws and 32. point buy.Races should be Humanoid.(In its semantic sense).All official 3.5 material and pre-asked Homebrew is allowed.

As for Houserules:I don`t have any particular but if you desperately want to play a "Monk" we will come up with something.

Optimization wise: You can have cool characters but play it fair.So mid-high level.No Incarnate Construct,Nightstick stacking or kotw shenanigans for example.
I don`t want to have to set the CR on 5 above the PC´s to have a fun fight.

So sure.All those books are allowed.

Great... Is eberron stuff allowed? I wanted to take Monastic Training + Tashalatora feats in order to stack Monk Levels + Psychic Warrior levels for purposes of Unarmed Strike, AC, fast movement and slow fall. I'd start at 1st level as a Synad monk, go for another level of monk, then pursue Psychic Warrior levels for a bit (Getting the Mantled Warrior ACF for Nature), dip Totemist so i can get meldshaping (Blink Shirt, Sphinx Claws... lot's of good stuff), get more Psychic Warrior to get Psionic Open Chakra (and thus get my meldshaping on), probably topping it off with something from Tome of Battle if the campaign gets that far.

Sure.Go for it.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 13, 2012, 10:46:21 PM
This is what I worked up for my background. Suggestions would be welcome for improvement, as it needs it.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: brujon on August 13, 2012, 10:49:42 PM
Is there a date for character submission? I've been kinda occupied lately...
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 13, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
I can't speak definitely, but as far as I gather, no, just as soon as feasible. This is just my inference, and not any statement from Pencil.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 14, 2012, 06:06:02 AM
Whenever you are ready.If you are occupied at the moment that should be no big problem.Can you get your character ready in like... a week?Or is this to early for you?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: brujon on August 14, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
Whenever you are ready.If you are occupied at the moment that should be no big problem.Can you get your character ready in like... a week?Or is this to early for you?

It's ok. I just needed a couple days, it'll be ready in a week, definitely.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 15, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
InnaBinder?You still with us?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 15, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Does my background fit the setting? And make sense?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: InnaBinder on August 15, 2012, 11:16:39 PM
I'm still here, and the week's madness appears to have abated. 

Query: Can I use (Greater) Spell Focus for a wu jen's chosen element?  Preliminary thought is wu jen 6/mythic exemplar 9/fortune's friend 5.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 16, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
Does my background fit the setting? And make sense?

Yeah.It is fine!The only "problem" is that arcane behemoths normally don`t roam outside of town so you can come from far away-ish.

Now I just have to ask you guys a question:You want the beginning played out or should I just write how you got the job and so on?
And since I am not familiar with pbp, what combat mapping tools do you advise?

I'm still here, and the week's madness appears to have abated. 

Query: Can I use (Greater) Spell Focus for a wu jen's chosen element?  Preliminary thought is wu jen 6/mythic exemplar 9/fortune's friend 5.

Yeah, go for it.Glad to know you are still with us :) Weekend is coming
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 16, 2012, 07:16:14 AM
I'm game either way. However, I'd imagine that it wolf be easiest for you to write how we got the job and explain why we all grouped up.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 16, 2012, 07:33:38 AM
I've been busy and my 2yo is sick, but I promise I'll finish my char soon...
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 16, 2012, 08:48:10 AM
Yeah take your time.If I am moving to fast ahead tell me.

It is just that I got holidays atm and this is a good distraction from my paper.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Harald on August 16, 2012, 02:30:59 PM
I've added the background of my character : basically, he's from a "Maori + Inuit" culture. I do thing I'm ready to go, I just need to do his portrait myself.
Please tell me if I have things to add/change/remove/clarify.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 16, 2012, 02:59:21 PM
I've added the background of my character : basically, he's from a "Maori + Inuit" culture. I do thing I'm ready to go, I just need to do his portrait myself.
Please tell me if I have things to add/change/remove/clarify.

Everything is fine!
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 16, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Every time I start to think about my back story, all I can think of is this:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: InnaBinder on August 17, 2012, 09:00:39 AM
My character's background is now on the sheet, under "additional information."  Let me know if you want anything else there, or if something conflicts with your version of the world.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 17, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
My character's background is now on the sheet, under "additional information."  Let me know if you want anything else there, or if something conflicts with your version of the world.

The background is totally fine.

Another question: Would you guys mind if I delete all non characters in the character thread?I am a little ocd like that  :tongue

and an announcement: I got the map ready so far and am ready to introduce you to the exploring mechanics for "kingmaker".But that is going to be a new thread.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 17, 2012, 10:59:48 AM
Delete away :)

And sweet :D
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 17, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
Will you be posting the initial meeting of our characters and creating a thread for us to be in character?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 17, 2012, 10:16:05 PM
Will you be posting the initial meeting of our characters and creating a thread for us to be in character?

thats why I was asking what you guys would prefer ^^".

Okay if no one else wants their comments preserved I will delete tomorrow,
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 17, 2012, 10:43:21 PM
I doubt anyone will care, but if you want, copy them and put them in a spoiler in this thread.

Um, you have the best idea of the setting, while we each know our characters. So, really, It's up to your decision. Do you want to add characterization to each of our characters, or would you prefer us to all tweak the setting?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 18, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
My race is a desert variant kobold, and I was wondering how you (Pencil) thought a character like that would fit in to society in this region.  Are kobolds mostly looked down upon, or is Brevia more of a place where anyone can make a name for himself, regardless of race? 
Also, are there any conveniently located deserts that I can hail from?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 18, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
My race is a desert variant kobold, and I was wondering how you (Pencil) thought a character like that would fit in to society in this region.  Are kobolds mostly looked down upon, or is Brevia more of a place where anyone can make a name for himself, regardless of race? 
Also, are there any conveniently located deserts that I can hail from?

In Brevoy people have either a very  positive attitude towards dragons or very negative.The land was "conquered" by choral and his dragons thus when you are around people that are well with the throne and such they won`t necessary like you but they will accept you.On the other hand you are a "monster" and not very common in the mainland and not liked very much by all normal people.
But since you are not liked very much thats more so a reason to leave Brevoy and start something new.
In Brevoy, in Rostland the climate is similar to central Europe.In Issia it is more like north Canada.So there are no deserts or something like that around.
You might come from a caravan from distant places or you could be an orphan for example.

I doubt anyone will care, but if you want, copy them and put them in a spoiler in this thread.

Um, you have the best idea of the setting, while we each know our characters. So, really, It's up to your decision. Do you want to add characterization to each of our characters, or would you prefer us to all tweak the setting?
Hmm I think it would be really easier to just tell how you guys got the job but I dont want to railroad you.I think I will do it the following way.
I will summarize how you got the job and you will just write a little passage how you looked and what your first impression was on the others and so on and so forth.So it wont be real time but retrospective.

If you have any alternatives or objections I am all yours.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 19, 2012, 01:47:30 AM
Conquered by dragons, you say... Interesting.  How long ago did this happen?  Would it be feasible that Zsass heard about a "land ruled by dragons" and traveled north to see it?  He is about 120 years old, so even if the dragons are all gone he might have been travelling for quite a while.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 19, 2012, 01:48:47 AM
Hmm I think it would be really easier to just tell how you guys got the job but I dont want to railroad you.I think I will do it the following way.
I will summarize how you got the job and you will just write a little passage how you looked and what your first impression was on the others and so on and so forth.So it wont be real time but retrospective.

If you have any alternatives or objections I am all yours.
Sounds good to me
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 19, 2012, 03:24:06 AM
Conquered by dragons, you say... Interesting.  How long ago did this happen?  Would it be feasible that Zsass heard about a "land ruled by dragons" and traveled north to see it?  He is about 120 years old, so even if the dragons are all gone he might have been travelling for quite a while.

Well not directly ruled.More that the conquerer used 2 female wyrms withing his army.They were the one deciding factor for conquering the lands.It was around 200 years since the land, originally inhabited by the swordlords (noble families), got conquered by Choral and his Dragons.
Through the time that the family of choral reigned of the lands the throne had also the nickname "Dragonthrone" and the land is well known as the 2 headed dragon.
(click to show/hide)

So it is quite possible your character thought it was actually ruled by dragons.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 19, 2012, 04:33:31 AM
Edited my character post to include a background.  I left it rather vague with respect to geography and the recent past, to accommodate the setting and how the party meets and whatnot.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 19, 2012, 05:07:04 AM
Alrighty.Looks good to me.2 more to go!
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 19, 2012, 03:15:11 PM
Background posted.  Any issues?  I made something up that could be fun for later.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 19, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
Hurray!Looks fine.Always nice to have plot hooks for later.Now we just have to wait for Brujon and we can start  :clap
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: brujon on August 19, 2012, 11:19:08 PM
Hurray!Looks fine.Always nice to have plot hooks for later.Now we just have to wait for Brujon and we can start  :clap

I'm really sorry i can't really join right now... I don't want to keep holding your guys up... I have exposed all of it on the off topic section... When things lighten up... Maybe i could join mid-game? I'd been hoping for this kind of game but... Well, i have exposed all =\
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 20, 2012, 04:46:21 AM
Sure.When you are fine again join mid game.Just promise to get well again.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 20, 2012, 04:51:29 AM
After that we can start with a foul taste left in the mouth.I will start a Thread and a little summary later.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 21, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
I am a little confused.Just tell me when you want to continue with the present ^^"

I don`t want to cut if some one else has something to say.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 21, 2012, 07:50:11 PM
Oh, my bad.  I thought this was the present. 
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 21, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
My bad.Could have explained it better

This is the present and what you talk is a "flashback" if you can say so.I didn`t want to railroad how your characters got introduced neither to play out how you got the job since it would eat sooo much time without accomplishing much.so I thought this was a good compromise.

Quote from: the present
It has been around 2 days that you left Restov, the most southward city of whole Brevoy.It is strange.Normally all bigger roads in Brevoy itself are well traveled and you at least see another group of travelers a day.But this road is empty and not well worked.It seems that those are the small and first signs of leaving Brevoy and going into the Greenbelt.

What you talk about atm is when you first met and how you acted at that time since it would make more sense doing those conversations at the first meeting and not after 2 days traveling.

hope it makes more sense now ^^"

Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 21, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
Ok, so "present day" we're on the road to the Trading Post, where we're supposed to receive additional information, correct?
Do we know what to expect in the Greenbelt besides bandits?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 22, 2012, 05:13:21 AM
Ok, so "present day" we're on the road to the Trading Post, where we're supposed to receive additional information, correct?

Correcto Mundo.


Do we know what to expect in the Greenbelt besides bandits?
Every one can make a knowledge(history,nature and geography) or gather information check if he wanted to inform himself in Restov about the Greenbelt and his inhabitants.

Harald and savant can write an exit for their character then I will continue.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Harald on August 22, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
Done. with a small acquisition I hope is reasonable : after all there might be a donkey shortage... or a crazy man cornering the market with his "Slighty used Camel Emporium".  :smirk
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 22, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
I will post your results after geniussavant posted "his exit" and we get back into "action".
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
I'll take a 10 on a Survival check to forage for food.  Total is 13, so I can feed one other person too.  That is, if anyone is interested in the bugs and small rodents that Zsass would eat ;-)

Jack would never ask, bit if offered, he would have no problem eating such fair. :)
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 25, 2012, 05:20:25 AM
sooo, you guys are still standing in front of the trading post :tongue
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 26, 2012, 04:43:17 AM
Totally didn't realize we were in front of the trading post.  For some reason, I had it in my head that this was happening on the road/during the night, and we still had another day or so before we got to Oleg's. 
Sorry, Pencil.  It seems I'm having a hard time understanding your descriptions of what's going on.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 26, 2012, 06:16:49 AM
:( I am not a native speaker so there is obviously the language barrier but I will try to make it clearer in the future.

Normally I am double checking to make sure I am clear :/ Sorry.

btw.: How should we handle this when I should update?Should I wait till everybody wrote something to the situation or just update daily regardless?
I am pretty new to this pbp thing so I feel better asking how this is done.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 26, 2012, 08:14:13 AM
Personally, I don't mind if you update it regardless of if I've posted for the situation. I'd give it probably a day and a half to two and then go a head and update. But someone else my feel different.

If that's what you decide, it shouldn't be hard for us to throw together a short "this is how our character should act if I don't post" paragraph.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on August 26, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
(click to show/hide)

"Dibs."
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 26, 2012, 02:13:09 PM
Well her husband does not seem like a fighting type guy....  :plotting
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 27, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
Should I have made a separate set of rolls for each creature, instead of one roll for each skill? For future reference I mean.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 27, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Should I have made a separate set of rolls for each creature, instead of one roll for each skill? For future reference I mean.

Atm it was not necessary since they were different types and such.But still idc just stay consistent with your choice.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 27, 2012, 09:04:35 PM
Okay, atm, I'll stick with making all three knowledge checks, just let me know if you need me to repeated a check(in the case of two with the same type) or make a different check(in the case of a type not covered by one of those three).
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 27, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
Okay, atm, I'll stick with making all three knowledge checks, just let me know if you need me to repeated a check(in the case of two with the same type) or make a different check(in the case of a type not covered by one of those three).

Cool with me.Just seems strange that with the 10+HD=Dc.Seems strange that you can`t identify a big boar.I mean the tusks are even on the picture.Reminds me of knowledge checks in general. -_-"
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 27, 2012, 09:22:03 PM
Yeah, I knew I failed the check the second I made it. I only needed a 13 assuming it hadn't advanced in hit dice. I guess, in the future, you could grant a small bonus for things that should be commonly known. But at this point, I can't really do much about it. Once I get some gold, I'd like to buy a few masterwork tools of knowledge. One for arcana, nature, dungeoneering, and the planes if we start finding outsiders.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Harald on August 28, 2012, 08:06:35 AM
I'm really sorry to tell that right now, but I do have some IRL troubles to cope with. I won't be able to commit to this rp anymore, I'm really sorry. At least, as it is the beginning, it won't provoke much troubles, I hope.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 28, 2012, 08:08:47 AM
I'm really sorry to tell that right now, but I do have some IRL troubles to cope with. I won't be able to commit to this rp anymore, I'm really sorry. At least, as it is the beginning, it won't provoke much troubles, I hope.

Hope everything solves well for you.As I also told Brujon if things clear up for you you will have a whitecard to enter again :)

Now the question is left:Do you want another player?If so I will contact McPoyo since he was the next in the line.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 28, 2012, 08:53:01 AM
Hope things work out for you

I'll leave that up to the rest of the group.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 28, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
Sorry to hear that Harald :-(  Hope you get things settled soon.

In the meantime, I'm totally unfamiliar with the Kingmake adventures - would we have trouble with encounters being 2 people short?  I'm totally OK with inviting another person if we need to.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 28, 2012, 07:04:22 PM
If you are well optimized it should not be a problem.It is level 1 though so everything is pretty random.The adventure is proposed for 4-6 players and it is originally pathfinder so it should not be hard for well optimized 3.5 characters.But I dont know how well composed the party is and such so we just have to see I guess.
Since you are free to go everywhere it might end grim though.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 28, 2012, 10:49:38 PM
Anyone think of anything it would be nice to have? Right now, besides hiding the bear traps right outside the gate, and pouring a few pints of oil on the ground and having Zsass light it on fire and entangle them in the flames, I can't think of much else. Hunting equipment should include bows and arrows I guess, so that would probably be an option too. We could probably throw caltrops in the area too, creating a sort of kill zone with the fire.
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Post by: sirpercival on August 28, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
Can Windlost have some shapesand??
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Post by: geniussavant on August 28, 2012, 11:17:41 PM
I'm not sure that fits the hunting motif :p and we might not be allowed to keep the stuff Oleg let's us use...
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 29, 2012, 02:03:17 AM
we might not be allowed to keep the stuff Oleg let's us use...

Business is hard around here you know...

Can Windlost have some shapesand??

A little bit to exotic, sorry  :tongue
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 29, 2012, 03:54:31 AM
Might be able to scavenge some materials for a trap or two... spiked pits would be easy enough, and Windlost probably has some experience with Malay Mancatchers or snares.  Did Oleg mention how many bandits usually come?  If it's only one or two, we might not need so much preparation here.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 29, 2012, 04:36:01 AM
"Hmm.They always came with like 4 people..."
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Post by: geniussavant on August 29, 2012, 06:38:30 AM
If it's only one or two, we might not need so much preparation here.
"Hmm.They always came with like 4 people..."

I have been known to be a little paranoid when it comes to preparing for a fight known about a head of time.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 29, 2012, 06:10:31 PM
If it's only one or two, we might not need so much preparation here.
"Hmm.They always came with like 4 people..."

I have been known to be a little paranoid when it comes to preparing for a fight known about a head of time.

Dont be afraid.This is easy I promise :P
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 30, 2012, 01:31:50 PM
Hahaha not "afraid" per se, mostly just over analytical of survival.
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Post by: geniussavant on August 30, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
I'd like Caltrops and oil soaked netting in all squares 18l-18p x 18p-20q. That should be a rectangle just inside the door. I don't know how many bear traps we have available, but I'd like one in each of those squares also. If Zsass doesn't mind, I would like him in 15m hiding behind the cart until he moves to breathe his fire. I'll hide in 19r.

Edit: Who ever makes the actually craft(trapmaking) check gets a +2 from my aid another check.

Edit2:

Zsass has a +4 on Craft(Trapmaking) (+2 racial, +2 Int)

I think this is the best mod, then Moli(+3), then Windlost(+2), I come in last. Hopefully, they can both succeed their AA checks, and can Oleg make an AA check too?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 31, 2012, 09:56:52 AM
I think this is the best mod, then Moli(+3), then Windlost(+2), I come in last. Hopefully, they can both succeed their AA checks, and can Oleg make an AA check too?

Sure.The dc should not be to high though.

Rolled 1d20+1 : 8 + 1, total 9
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 31, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
The dc for the trapmaking check? I think they start at 20 if youre making the trap from scratch. Assuming the bear traps just have to be set, they could provide a a bonus the the trapmaking check to set them. Maybe like a +10 bonus, so even a normal hinter could use them?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 31, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
CR 1 Traps are DC 20 which are Traps like
(click to show/hide)

To just hide the already existing traps you wont need a high roll.Just something with a bonus so the bandits wont notice them.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on August 31, 2012, 10:21:06 AM
Mkay, well, I made an aid another check, so someone else will need to make the actual check. Zsass?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on August 31, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
Well we're not in any rush and there's no immediate consequence for failure, so can I just take a 20?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on August 31, 2012, 10:41:09 PM
Well we're not in any rush and there's no immediate consequence for failure, so can I just take a 20?

Sure since you could, under no circumstances, fail by 5 or more you can take 20.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 03, 2012, 07:53:42 AM
`sup?
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Post by: InnaBinder on September 03, 2012, 08:03:23 AM
`sup?
Excellent question.  Still here, still interested.
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Post by: geniussavant on September 03, 2012, 09:10:22 AM
I'm here too. And you could probably update if you want, Zsass' check would give hime a 26(20+4+2)
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Post by: Pencil on September 03, 2012, 09:20:08 AM
Assuming you will just do what savant suggested I will update in like 10 hours :P

btw it would be nice to know where everyone is positioned for the fight.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on September 03, 2012, 09:44:39 AM
Sorry didn't realize you were waiting on me  :P
I like Genius' plan.  Do I need to make a Hide check for concealing myself behind the crate, or does it provide sufficient cover (keep in mind my Slight Build racial feature lets me count as Tiny)?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 03, 2012, 10:08:20 AM
The wagon wont provide full cover.A hide check would be necessary.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 03, 2012, 04:41:36 PM
I am editing the map atm where does the rest want to be when the bandits arrive?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on September 03, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
Windlost and his coyote are at Q&R 15.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on September 05, 2012, 03:49:37 PM
Sure till what point do you want to wait till you act?

Only until everyone is in place. Hopefully the bandits barge in without thinking because they have been waiting, right into the kill zone.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 06, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
The rest of you can roll ini as well.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on September 06, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
Can you include an initiative list?
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Post by: Pencil on September 06, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
linklord:21
InnaBinder:18
SirP:12
Pet:6
savant:6

I will roll if the Bandits will put up a fight after the suprise round.Next fight will be with map and a little more coordinated.I promise :tongue
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on September 06, 2012, 03:42:58 PM
Do the bear traps just do damage, or do they impose some kind of entanglement or other movement-impairing effect?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 06, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
Do the bear traps just do damage, or do they impose some kind of entanglement or other movement-impairing effect?

Depends.They half movement usually or immobilize when anchored in the ground.

And yes you only got a standard action during the surprise round but you may take a 5ft step.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: Pencil on September 06, 2012, 04:34:41 PM
It is Binders turn now.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on September 06, 2012, 10:18:06 PM
Shouldn't Zsass' flame have lit the oil on fire, dealing 1d4 damage per round for two rounds?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on September 19, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
It's been over a week since the last update, is everything OK?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: geniussavant on September 20, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
Pencil hasn't been on since then. I'm not sure what the story is.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on November 07, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
How long should we wait before calling this?
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on November 07, 2012, 06:04:37 PM
How long should we wait before calling this?

I was wondering the same thing  :(
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: sirpercival on November 23, 2012, 08:04:05 PM
Alright, I'm going to have this game retired.  When and if Pencil resurfaces, we'll resurrect it.
Title: Re: OOC
Post by: linklord231 on February 28, 2013, 01:38:18 AM
Darn, I really wanted to play Kingmaker.  Was thinking of running it for my IRL gaming group, and was hoping to get a sense for how it is  :(