- Magitechnician -- basically a variation on artificer, with some macguver and Scottie thrown in.
- Crystal Mage -- a variant wizard that uses Prime32's spellcrystals (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1795).
- Psykin -- a mutant-themed spellshaping (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?board=64.0) class.
- Synthevolver -- a two-track class: biosynth (based on fleshwarper) or mechanosynth (based on renegade mastermaker). Probably melee-based.
- Morphling -- a genetically enhanced warrior that can alter their morphology (based off wildshape ranger, changeling, shifter). Not sure if this should be a race instead, but I'm leaning toward class.
- Dodger -- a variant rogue, maybe with some Jaunter mixed in.
- Wildling (alt. Domeskipper) -- someone who spends most of their time outside the domes. Druid/ranger/barbarian?
- Holomancer -- A light-bender, think illusionist or beguiler.
- Energy Warrior, Cyberneticist, Dreadnought -- Power of Cybernetics (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1527.0) classes. Ideas on reflavoring back to magic?
- Medtech -- Wielder of healing magics, and other stuff? There's no divine magic, so I'm not sure where else to go with this, but there needs to be a source of healing.... unless it all comes from (magitechnician-built) items. Thoughts?
What's the tech level like in those games? Are they sufficiently postmodern? :DAlthough I'm not planning to get into it much (at least till later in the game), the "tech" level in mine is quite high, with every house having trinkets of Prestidigitation, cities having giant robots to defend them, with domes covering them which can exclude unwanted teleportations, incorpeals, etc.
Basically, just think about how awesome Bladerunner or Snow Crash would have been if they'd been based on magic. :smirk
I'm not sure what to do with computer systems and hackers...
I'm not sure what to do with computer systems and hackers...
Deep Rot. (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12936417/) You know you want to.
I'm definitely going with TC pads for transportation -- it's a staple of Tippyverse.
For computers, I'm thinking of something called DivNet (I originally was going to go with ScryNet, but then I thought Ahnold would come to get me). Basically, a computer is a divination machine (wondrous item). Command-line coding is all about asking the correct questions, and the more expensive computers have higher-level divination spells in them. Email = sending. Video chat = scrying.
I love the flavor that you suggested, ninjeko -- I think it will be more streamlined, but lots of crystal and chrome. No computer screens, but highly polished aluminum mirrors for the best resolution.
However, I'm not sure how to do hacking with this setup. How does one "hack" scrying and divination?
Mechs will be from the Power of Cybernetics stuff (Garryl's work), though I'm trying to figure out how to reflavor it BACK to magic instead of science. :)
I had that idea months before /tg/. :graveI'm not sure what to do with computer systems and hackers...
Deep Rot. (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12936417/) You know you want to.
:lmao
That is priceless.
- Energy Warrior, Cyberneticist, Dreadnought -- Power of Cybernetics (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1527.0) classes. Ideas on reflavoring back to magic?
I'm going to have to reverse-adapt normal incarnum into science fiction sometime
- Energy Warrior, Cyberneticist, Dreadnought -- Power of Cybernetics (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1527.0) classes. Ideas on reflavoring back to magic?
Call them spellmolders. While Psykins and other spellshapers take magic and give it temporary shape, it dissipates rapidly. Spellmolders hold that magic in its form over longer periods of time by forming spellmolds (modules), into which they pump magic (energy) as needed, giving it a solid and lasting form for as long as it is needed. The flow of magic must be heavily restricted to prevent it from breaking free and releasing, but skilled spellmolders can channel more magical energy into a mold at once without letting it shatter (energy capacity). Practiced spellmolders learn to shape their spellmolds directly around their bodies (socket attachments), giving them greater control over the magical energies used.
Crap... now that I've seen the Xenoalchemist, what do I do with my idea for the Synthevolver? Is it similar enough that I just replace the Synthevolver with Xenoalchemist?
Crap... now that I've seen the Xenoalchemist, what do I do with my idea for the Synthevolver? Is it similar enough that I just replace the Synthevolver with Xenoalchemist?
I say it is different enough to do your own thing. Your Synthevolver sounds like someone who grafts themselves to become better, to evolve into something synthetic. (See what I did there? :p)
The Xenoalchemist makes grafts for everybody and gets bonuses when cutting up "donors".
I like where you're going with this, make your own class. Maybe borrow a little if it seems appropriate.
My plan is to repost the classes in this forum with reflavorings and update skills, pending G's permission.
If anyone wants to contribute ideas for the locations, I'm all ears. I have basic ideas but few specifics so far.
Also, what kind of information should go into a location writeup?
I'm happy with prestige classes that are dual-progression or based around a specific theme.
I'm happy with prestige classes that are dual-progression or based around a specific theme.
What other kinds of PrCs are there than these?
The PoC stuff is going to take awhile to port over since Garryl hasn't finished it yet apparently.
I have no preference.
However, I've officially added Magipunk to my list of Homebrew that is awesome and I want to play. You should feel proud. :p
I have no preference.
However, I've officially added Magipunk to my list of Homebrew that is awesome and I want to play. You should feel proud. :p
:clap Whoooo!
I have no preference.
However, I've officially added Magipunk to my list of Homebrew that is awesome and I want to play. You should feel proud. :p
:clap Whoooo!
The problem with the internet: I can't tell just how much of that was sarcasm. :P
Well, it won't have the biggest thing that makes druid overshadow, which is spellcasting, and it won't have an animal companion either, so that helps. Also, you will explicitly NOT get spellcasting off the outsider forms, though since it's high level I may give out SLAs... I haven't decided.
Actually... now that I think about it, the best way I can think of to design the mechanics is to base it off of Binder. You pick one or more planes to attune at the beginning of the day, and you get scaling abilities based on your level off each one.
That... sounds amazingly awesome. Woo hoo! I'll make it. Now I just need a name...
Well, it won't have the biggest thing that makes druid overshadow, which is spellcasting, and it won't have an animal companion either, so that helps. Also, you will explicitly NOT get spellcasting off the outsider forms, though since it's high level I may give out SLAs... I haven't decided.
Actually... now that I think about it, the best way I can think of to design the mechanics is to base it off of Binder. You pick one or more planes to attune at the beginning of the day, and you get scaling abilities based on your level off each one.
That... sounds amazingly awesome. Woo hoo! I'll make it. Now I just need a name...
This sounds perfect!
i would give a paw down to all three. but then, i'm not much into blood, or closely resembling said color.
Maybe I missed it, and I'm not 100% keen on sifting for an answer when I can go to the source... :)
Do mystical materials such as Mithril and Adamantite still exist in this setting?
Reserved for Energy Guns
You've failed to address Pit, Spike, and Poison Gas traps.
New Idea for Prestige Class: Reclaimer
Essentially someone who suits up, heads out of the domes, and reclaims swaths of wilderness so that construction teams can come by, plant the magic crystals, and make another dome. They'd be heavy enforcer kinda bad asses, and they'd get heavy armor proficiency to boot. Maybe as they go through the progression, they get class features to offset things like the Armor check penalty and the movement hit, indicating loads and loads of training in maneuvering in heavy armor. Capstone could be "Universal Heavy Armor Proficiency" that allows them to be proficient in, and apply their class bonuses to, every form of Heavy Armor in the campaign universe.
Regional Feats
Burned Soldier [Regional]
The incredible heat of the desert has granted you some resistance to similarly hot things.
Regions: Jarrash
Benefit: You gain fire resistance 3.
Frozen Knight [Regional]
You've spent so much time on the ice that you're used to chill temperatures.
Regions: North
Benefit: You gain cold resistance 3.
I'm thinking about a psionic Dodger PrC. More Warmind/Psionic Fist style than a dual progression class. Call it the "Fleeting Thought". 4th-5th level powers, Mind-slip (somewhere between Invisibility and Mass Cloud Mind), maybe Int to AC or something. You could probably do it such that Dodger isn't absolutely required for it, but just by far the easiest entry.
On a related note, would it be possible to review the Mentalist and Crystal Mage, maybe add some more support and/or fluff? I always forget about those two, despite them being full casters (or equivalent). They just don't have any interesting class features to me, and I've always had a problem with the Mentalist's Similarization (something about it, maybe the major penalty to saves, just bugs me).
I'm thinking about a psionic Dodger PrC. More Warmind/Psionic Fist style than a dual progression class. Call it the "Fleeting Thought". 4th-5th level powers, Mind-slip (somewhere between Invisibility and Mass Cloud Mind), maybe Int to AC or something. You could probably do it such that Dodger isn't absolutely required for it, but just by far the easiest entry.
I take it this is in addition to Psy-cat? Go ahead and post what you've got, and I'll edit to match :)
QuoteOn a related note, would it be possible to review the Mentalist and Crystal Mage, maybe add some more support and/or fluff? I always forget about those two, despite them being full casters (or equivalent). They just don't have any interesting class features to me, and I've always had a problem with the Mentalist's Similarization (something about it, maybe the major penalty to saves, just bugs me).
Review in what way?
I have a Mentalist/DivHead prc planned (Neuromancer), but not much more. Feel free to suggest stuff if you have anything.
Actually, how about this: I think there should be a Crystal Mage/PoC prc. Thoughts?
All Similarization does (until the higher level versions) is add large numbers to your save DCs (it effectively adds another 0.4*(level + Int mod) to the save DCs). Being usable only once is irrelevant when it only takes one failed save to nullify an opponent (and with that penalty, especially at higher levels, it's pretty much guaranteed unless your opponent's saves were already off the chart).
Have class that combos Powerbard and Holomancer for a one-man music video.
I'm not sure what belongs in Magipunk, actually. It's supposed to be Cyberpunk but with magic instead of technology, right? But there's a bit more to it that I've forgotten. That, and I don't really know the range of Cyberpunk, to begin with. Most of my understanding of it as a real setting is from the game you're running right now, which seems to me to be on the grim and gritty side (guns and trench coats and murder mysteries, oh my).
OK, here's my thought: Psionic Swiftblade, but with separate progression; give it mantles, like a swiftblade/ardent. How does that sound? Base it around Time-slip rather than Haste, so it feels more like a Dodger.
Neuromancer as I said I have ideas for, and we'll work out some kind of PoC/Crystal mage prc, that has too much awesome built in not to take advantage of.Similarization is a bit boring, but it is a Screw-saves-just-lose type of thing. Perhaps, let it allow you to use telepathy on a creature immune to mind affecting, OR penalize saves?
In terms of feats, both Mentalist and CrysMage have a couple feats already. Neither has items, which I should remedy; they also could use more feats, so I'll think about that. What do you dislike about Similarization? It's kind of integral to the class, so I want to fix any issues. I could definitely work up a Mentalist ACF or two, so that might help.
Zen Fundamentalist is due a major rewrite, making it a swordsagey ToB class, as I said elsewhere.Sounds good
Do you think Nullblade and/or the Ritual System have their place here?Nullblade could work, but it would take creative fluffing.
Definitely will be a mechanosynth evolve. And that reminds me that I need a consistent way to allow Warforged to get mechanosynth evolves... thoughts? (Answer in the Brainstorming thread, please.)
Definitely will be a mechanosynth evolve. And that reminds me that I need a consistent way to allow Warforged to get mechanosynth evolves... thoughts? (Answer in the Brainstorming thread, please.)
Definitely, that's a good idea. I'll add it to my to-do list.
Now, Domeskipper has access to a ranged discipline, so there's that... the other thing is that the guns are good enough that they make an excellent secondary weapon for any character.
Do the fully autos have a burst fire option to be like the semis or are they volley only? If so, what's the damage, same as the semi?
The autos are a bit too expensive. By the time you can afford them, you have iteratives so the semis will be the weapon of choice.
Crystal shooters: Large initial investment, low subsequent cost (er, none), average benefit.
Energy guns: Medium initial investment, high subsequent cost (energy crystals ain't cheap for the good ones), high benefit (touch attacks, baby).
Er, the spray of crystal bullets into a square (reflex save) that only the autos have, vs. the normal volley of attacks you get with the semis (or bows and other normal weapons). Sorry, on rereading that, I can see that it's about as clear as a foggy day at the smog factory.Do the fully autos have a burst fire option to be like the semis or are they volley only? If so, what's the damage, same as the semi?
I'm not sure what you mean by burst vs volley.
Now that I'm thinking about it, if I'm going psionic, why worry about clips at all? Just to make it different from the energy guns which have clips. I'll base it off of Crystal Shard/Swarm of Crystals. If the numbers below are too expensive to be worthwhile, I can switch it to clips but then you have to buy the ammo which is expensive.
Something like:
~A single-shot pistol is a 1-h simple weapon that does 1d6 piercing as a standard action ranged attack (range increment 50 feet) and costs 2135gp. You can also get a pump-action rifle which is 2-h and does 2d6 (range increment 80 feet) and costs 3950 gp, and a sniper rifle which is a 2-h exotic weapon and does 4d6 (range increment 110 feet) and costs 7600 gp.
~A semiautomatic pistol is a martial weapon that replicates a single-shot but can be used with iterative attacks, and costs 2335 gp. The semiautomatic rifle is a martial weapon that similarly replicates the pump-action, and costs 4350 gp.
~A fully-auto pistol is a 1-h exotic weapon which does 3d4 within a 5-foot square as a burst as a standard action, with a range increment of 30 feet; hit AC 10 to get the right square (failure scatters as a thrown weapon); costs 11135 gp. Auto rifle does 5d4 with a range increment of 50 feet; costs 18350 gp.
Since it's based off Swarm of Crystals, auto weapons do NOT allow a save. They are also quite expensive, which makes up for it I think.
Thoughts?
Lol! I promise more Psi love will come. I have some ideas in that regard -- the Psykin/Crystal Mage class will be all about the crystals, for example.
So... I'm not sure what to do with the guns. Here are some options, I could do some or all of these (or none if we have better ideas):
1) Forget about the crystal guns and just use d20 Modern guns adapted for a gp economy.
2) Do a couple things to beef up the crystal guns so they are more useful. For example, I could change it back to a ranged touch attack, and/or I could remove the reflex for half (since Swarm of Crystals doesn't allow one).
3) Lower the price of the crystal guns. Currently they're calculated using the item rules, so any reduction in price would be eyeballing.
Thoughts?
Well, in a cyberpunk setting, very few people use bows because guns are more effective. But this is science fantasy, with magic instead of tech. I'm ok with keeping bows around, but I also think it's likely they'll be a lot less common because the guns (built off magic) are more effective.
http://www.scratchfactory.com/ModernSRD/Home.php
Ugh. No consensus, then.
Alright, here's the plan, stolen from Garryl (as usual). I'm going to make a cheaper version of ammo for the energy guns. Crystal crystals (lol). They'll require a regular touch attack and be piercing damage, and the grade 3 version will not have a rider effect.
I'll also make a weapon enchantment: "automatic", which lets you spend multiple charges to do an AoE with your gun.
That one's a good alternative, yes. I hadn't really thought to look if PF stuff.
Adding the full character level to attack rolls seems excessive, especially given that archers usually seem to have very good attack bonuses already (or so I always hear).
Any reason you didn't do the other common fix component of negating AoOs for firing in melee? You can usually get around that issue with a 5' step anyways, so I don't think it's that big a deal. Spellcasters can cast defensively, so the idea of ranged attacks that don't provoke isn't exactly a foreign concept.
What of the oddity with PBS where it's the prereq for Far Shot? My first thought for fixing them would be having either as a base with no prereqs, then have Precise Shot et al require either one.
Does the Zen Fundamentalist even NEED a specialized Prestige class?
Considering you already have Aasimar and Tiefling LA +1 races are already there. Goliath or Half Giant would be interesting
Nah, Aasimar & Tiefling are their LA+0 Lesser versions. But I can still consider it. Where would you put Half Giant?
Where might Lesser Drow fit, do you think?
At the risk of sounding helpful...
Half-Giant: Grunt, Mechanosynth
Drow, Lesser: Dodger, Divhead (I don't think a race that dwells in the dark and has dwelt in darkness for eons should have Holomancer... unless you plan to create a Prestige class called Black Light Knight and... oh shit, I just inspired you. Cool. 5 Level class, lets you swap out light beams normal damage for cold damage. Darkness effects. Cape and Cowl. )
Dodger/Holomancer probably but you already have a pile of doger ones...
Wow, that sounds incredibly similar to Shadow (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=3065.0)...
Combat Momentum (feat): Level 6+ only. Gain 1 thp per hit (and it doesn't last long).
Martial Spirit (DS 1 stance): 1st level. Heal 2 hp per hit. And if you don't want it, you can give it to someone else. Doesn't go away next turn. Healing out of combat. Synergy with that one soulmeld.
Stone Power (feat): 1st level. Don't bother with hitting, just make an attack and take a small penalty, and you have up to 10 thp for just as short a time.
... so, yeah, I'd give it a bit of a buff.
Renewed Purpose: Wording is unclear. As written, regardless of save you choose, the effect triggers on any save at all.
Push 'Em Around
It's easy to scare people when you're much bigger than them.
Prerequisites: Improved Bull Rush, Tickets to the Gun Show, Persuasion 8 ranks.
Benefit: Whenever you successfully bull rush an enemy, you may make a demoralization attempt against then as a free action. The enemy receives a -1 morale penalty to the check for every 5 feet that they were moved by your bull rush.
Renewed Purpose
You draw strength from adversity.
Prerequisites: One martial maneuver, base Fort, Reflex, or Will save +3.
Benefit: Choose Fortitude, Reflex, or Will (you must have a base +3 bonus to whichever save you choose). Whenever you make a successful save of the given type, but no more often than once per round, you may automatically recover one expended maneuver.
Special: You may select this feat up to three times, choosing a different save each time. You may recover one maneuver per round per successful save for which you select this feat; for example, a character who selects Renewed Purpose (Fortitude) and Renewed Purpose (Will) could recover up to two maneuvers per round, one each for a successful Fort and Will save.
These feats, while they have a bit of a Grunty feel to them, don't really demand being a Grunt. All of them are just as useful for a Domeskipper or a Synthevolver or a Morphling (although maybe a bit less synergistic). Give me something that builds on the Grunt's unique class features, please.
With combat momentum you need it to scale by level. if you base it off AC like you were suggesting it means you would get less hp at higher levels (due to monster AC going up). STR mod doesn't scale fast enough either. I would set it at a multiple of your BAB, probably x3 or x4.
With full BAB:
x3 x4
6 18 24
7 21 28
8 24 32
9 27 36
10 30 40
11 33 44
12 36 48
13 39 52
14 42 56
15 45 60
16 48 64
17 51 68
18 54 72
19 57 76
20 60 80
Not sure if x3 is too high.
Revisiting Racial Subs, since, y'know, it's unfinished. Like a bunch of other stuff... bluh.
By ClassBy Race
- Crystal Mage: Spellscale (use elf)*, Axani, Elf
- DivHead: Illumian*, Cansin, ??
- Dodger: Halfling*, Drow (lesser), Raptoran
- Domeskipper: Half-Orc*, Cansin, Raptoran
- Grunt: Half-Orc, Goliath, ??
- Holomancer: Aasimar*, Drow (lesser), Gnome
- Magitechnician: Gnome*, Dwarf, ??
- Medic: Lifetorn*, Aasimar, Halfling
- Mentalist: Tiefling*, Kalashtar, Elan
- Morphling: Warforged*, Changeling*, Shifter
- Planeswalker: Half-Elf*, Tiefling, Spellscale
- Powerbard: Half-Elf, Changeling, Illumian
- Psykin: Dwarf*, Kalashtar, Elan
- Mechanosynth: Warforged*, Mongrelfolk, ??
- Biosynth: Mongrelfolk*, Shifter, Lifetorn
- Zen Fundamentalist: Axani, Elf, Goliath
- Aasimar: Holomancer*, Medic
- Changeling: Morphling*, Powerbard
- Drow: Dodger, Holomancer
- Dwarf: Psykin*, Magitechnician
- Elf: Crystal Mage*, Domeskipper
- Gnome: Magitechnician*, Holomancer
- Goliath: Grunt, Zen Fundamentalist
- Half-Elf: Planeswalker*, Powerbard
- Half-Orc: Domeskipper*, Grunt
- Halfling: Dodger*, Medic
- Illumian: DivHead*, Powerbard
- Lifetorn: Medic*, Biosynth
- Mongrelfolk: Biosynth*, Mechanosynth
- Raptoran: Dodger, Domeskipper
- Shifter: Biosynth, Morphling
- Spellscale: Crystal Mage, Planeswalker
- Tiefling: Mentalist*, Planeswalker
- Warforged: Morphling, Mechanosynth
- Kalashtar: Psykin, Mentalist
- Elan: Psykin, Mentalist
- Axani: Crystal Mage, Zen Fundamentalist
- Cansin: Dodger, Domeskipper
I'd try to avoid such lopsided ability scores and immunities/vulnerabilities for an LA +0 race, but I am other than that and the name, I'm interested in the plant thing. Give me a little time, and I'll see if I can brew up a sentient fungus that evolved in the sewers and foundations of the domes.
1st draft, not near finished yet, probably needs another racial ability or two. Assume a humanoid form, just because.
I'd like a template or monster to go with it that turns them into a mindless (and possibly undead) swarm. It's a plant that's a zombie. Basically, Cellochoroids that are sort of dead but sort of not. They're separated into clumps instead of a collective body, but still possess a rudimentary psychic connection with each other. Swarm damage wouldn't necessarily even be physical damage from attacking to eat or kill, but instead psychic static and stuff as they try to bind together along another's body.
Also, biosynth sub levels (it just makes so much sense to me). Maybe with the ability to exchange some evolves for other evolves by just taking them out and putting in a new one.
If Cellochoroids are definitely in, I'd like to make a [Race] thread to keep all of the related material together (and keep it from cluttering this thread), if that's okay.
Any further thoughts about Cellochoroids?
Looking at the Gremlin all I can think of is how one would react when someone else says "You're nuts."
"Did one of those nuts fall off again? I swear I need to make a better bonding agent. Hey! Help me look for it since you pointed it out you twit!"
Powerbard needs a racial substitution level. :flutter
Powerbards aren't proficient with most of the Powerbard guitars....
Also, the guitar table is all wonky.
...huh. I wonder how long it's been zoomed in and I haven't notice.d
...huh. I wonder how long it's been zoomed in and I haven't notice.d
Doesn't have to start out zoomed in... it just depends on the width of the window.
The Powebard needs and extra chord known feat.
And the name of this Extra Chord Known feat should be "More Cowbell".
It sure does, but you misspelled Synthevolver. How embarrassing. :)
Here's an idea that's been bouncing around in my head. How about a class that infects the host with magical insects that act as symbionts, trading abilities and help for space in the host and nurishment. Constitution would be the main stat. Different species would provide different benefits. As the class progressed the insects would becomes stronger or you could pick a new species.
Think nanites gone arcane.
Kinda, I picture it as a sort of humaniod ant farm. It could be a synthevolver Prc, but it could work as it's own class too. I guess it could be just a special synthevolver series of bio evoles too, if you wanted.
I just realized something ironic. In this setting, without divine casters, the arcane casters (Crystal Mage, Medic) are the armored spellcasters and the primary source of healing, while the psionic manifesters (Mentalist, Psykin) are all lightly armored.
I just realized something ironic. In this setting, without divine casters, the arcane casters (Crystal Mage, Medic) are the armored spellcasters and the primary source of healing, while the psionic manifesters (Mentalist, Psykin) are all lightly armored.
Lol.
wait... are we talking homebrew, or are we talking stasheff here? or is this just one of those interesting coincidences, artifacts of my not reading every single post, or my misremembering the name?Love Stasheff! Lol. But in an earlier post there's a link to a homebrew subsystem called Grammarie.
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
That's the last thing we need here is a Grammarie Nazi :) :) :) :) :)
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
That's the last thing we need here is a Grammarie Nazi :) :) :) :) :)
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
That's the last thing we need here is a Grammarie Nazi :) :) :) :) :)
ummm.... run-on sentence. :eh
:D
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
That's the last thing we need here is a Grammarie Nazi :) :) :) :) :)
ummm.... run-on sentence. :eh
:D
well, it is an easy mistake to make "Gramarye" <-> "Grammarie", ne.
That's the last thing we need here is a Grammarie Nazi :) :) :) :) :)
ummm.... run-on sentence. :eh
:D
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I just wanted to say how awesome your work here is. Thisis what I've wanted my idea for story would. I'm not sure what you are looking or but what a class similar to a summoner or breeder/trainer or even a life maker.Thanks! I did put a lot of work into it...
I think I need look harder but where is your setting explained?Haha well... in bits and pieces. I'm much better at writing mechanics than the fluff & setting stuff, so that's being added slowly and via lots of help from other people.
Not quite... I'd say that they are almost all tier 3 or higher, with maybe the Dodger being tier 4 (though it could be tier 3, who knows).
Not quite... I'd say that they are almost all tier 3 or higher, with maybe the Dodger being tier 4 (though it could be tier 3, who knows).
I've meant to ask this for a while. What's with the Tier thing? Is character creation a tournament or something?
Not quite... I'd say that they are almost all tier 3 or higher, with maybe the Dodger being tier 4 (though it could be tier 3, who knows).
I've meant to ask this for a while. What's with the Tier thing? Is character creation a tournament or something?
As mentioned in the tier lists (though in more words), they are mostly meant as a tool for DMs and players to gauge the relative power of the various classes in order to determine what suits their tastes and what might have to be adjusted and such.
Not quite... I'd say that they are almost all tier 3 or higher, with maybe the Dodger being tier 4 (though it could be tier 3, who knows).
I've meant to ask this for a while. What's with the Tier thing? Is character creation a tournament or something?
As mentioned in the tier lists (though in more words), they are mostly meant as a tool for DMs and players to gauge the relative power of the various classes in order to determine what suits their tastes and what might have to be adjusted and such.
So, rather then play what you want to play or play what you feel is interesting, you play what can kick the ass of the guy sitting across the table from you? ;)
So, rather then play what you want to play or play what you feel is interesting, you play what can kick the ass of the guy sitting across the table from you? ;)
The tier list can cater to that, but as is mentioned in the thread itself the primary intent is to allow everyone to play well together since knowing how powerful your teammates are in whatever situations tends to help quite a bit.
If the wink is you being playful and not totally serious, I admit I'm a bit (okay, notoriously) blind when it comes to that, so I typically answer as if the statement was serious.
Well to be fair, I was being somewhat serious. I usually put a wink or a smile in there so that the people who would blow up and take serious offense at my statement ignore the statement and move on. So it's something of a filter. :)
See that? Filter.
Thank you for the clarification. I'm reading the link provided above, and it's not as twinkie min-max Roll-Playing as I was afraid of. The prospect of some classes being better at some situations then others is why there are multiple base classes, in my opinion. If the game was intended to just have one class that did everything, the player's handbook would be a pamphlet while the Dungeon Master's Guide would look more like the library of congress.
I guess my one main problem with homebrew tracking and concepts is that it seems that whenever someone runs into one of those hitches that's built into a class to keep them from being truly irredeemable in terms of absolute power, rather then saying "How can I work with this?" they say "Well shit, now I can't combo Chain Lighting into Creeping Doom piggybacked onto a Maximize Empowered Relicguard Spell. Time to fix that!" and build a homebrew which is 99% the original class, while that 1% is the whole Let's Omit that one Drawback.
Sometimes I read people's homebrews and think to myself "He just wants to play a 20th level wizard without having to bother with levels 2 through 19". Maybe I'm just old, though. So git off my lawn, and thanks for listening.
So, you ever going to write those Chloromorph feats that they apparently get?Well, sure. Lol. Eventually...
The more I think about it, the less comfortable I feel about Cellochoroids giving Int to saves vs. mind-affecting. Maybe a flat +2 or something? It would probably be reasonable to tone down or remove the crit immunity they get for being plants, too. How would that make them feel?Definitely more in line with the other races... go ahead and implement those changes.
Sirp, I see you updated the Magipunk Locations (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=2469.0) relatively recently. It's nice to see more info. The mention of megacorporations is giving me a bit of a Shadowrun vibe, which is nice, I think. My only experience with Shadowrun is from playing Shadowrun Returns and from reading the wiki when I was researching sci-fi stuff for PoC, but it certainly seemed interesting.I have some Aerie writeup that hasn't been posted yet, as well... anyway, I'm glad you like this.
Anyways, speaking of megacorps, you mention there being 3 of them in the Port Nexus LUNA (PNL) description. Any info on the two not described there? Or on any of the not-so-mega-corporations?
I just noticed that Grade 2 Ballistic HEX crystals deal as much damage as Grade 3 Ballistic Basic crystals (and double to objects), but cost 40% less.Derp... I'll take a look at these soon.
Grade 3 Force crystals should have a rider effect. You're paying the grade 3 premium after all. Without it, they also suffer the G2HEX/G3Basic issue that ballistics have. I'd suggest something like Fort or be pushed back 5 feet directly away.
I probably brought this up years ago, but are you at all concerned about the expense of using guns? Even with basic G1 ballistic crystals, it's 2.25 gp per attack (and it's a very dinky attack for that price). Then again, a lot of other pricing things are making me think that wealth in Magipunk isn't supposed to be quite the same as your average D&D setting. Specifically, I don't see the same old commoner daily wage being around 1 gp/day.Guns are expensive, but they're also supposed to be more effective than bows & arrows. I dunno... I priced them initially using item creation rules, and then made them less expensive than that... I guess I didn't go far enough. Any suggestions?
sirp, what here did you want me to take a look at?
Derp. I forgot about this.sirp, what here did you want me to take a look at?
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Anywhere in particular you'd like me to start?Maybe the races? Should be easy, there's only like 4 of them.
Derp. I forgot about this.sirp, what here did you want me to take a look at?
:poke
I'm not done with the Racial Sub Levels, so don't do those yet. But the races, base classes, and prcs are good to go (and there's a brand new prc that no one but me has ever looked at, I think). Also, keep an eye out, as you read this stuff, for any cyberpunk tropes, or holes in the setting, that I've completely missed, so that I can fix the omissions.
What's this about a new PrC?
Races aren't in your index.Yeah I know, I need to fix that. And yes, use the one in the Races thread. Lifetorn used to be the only one, so it had its own thread at the time. I should probably lock it, honestly.
Also, Lifetorn is in the Magipunk Races thread but also its own thread. I'm assuming the one in the race thread is the most up to date version?
:pokeSorry, I don't have as much time as I used to, years ago. So I get to this stuff as I can. I shall incorporate edits based on your comments probably tomorrow. Next thing to do is start tackling the base classes.
:pokeSorry, I don't have as much time as I used to, years ago. So I get to this stuff as I can. I shall incorporate edits based on your comments probably tomorrow. Next thing to do is start tackling the base classes.