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Title: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 16, 2016, 09:54:40 PM
OOC talk we had 6 characters building and I don't need more unless we lose people.  So lets finish characters and start a game.

Remember, everyone will for whatever there characters reason be leaving Crete.  So for a character history and you can write more, is why you were there, and why you are taking the Marathon and where you think its going, however you don't need to care where its going.

I might ask other questions to flesh your characters more out with what I have planned for the world.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on June 17, 2016, 01:08:13 AM
My character should be finished sometime later today.

Also I truly believe from SorO_Lost that he intends to haste as a primary first action.  Just theorizing but from reading his posts he seems like a relentless optimizer and we have 1 ranged archer, 1 god using ranged weapons and a horse, 1 Spartan hoplite, and your character.  I think with party composition haste will be optimal.  The philosopher so far is the one not being helped by haste. 
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?board=242.0

Horse goddess won't benefit much from Haste either, since she'll have a whooping 6 Str and 3 Bab, so she'll only attack to deliver strike maneuvers, and never fullattack unless there's literally nothing else she can do.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 17, 2016, 05:29:09 AM
(speaking of which, do I get action points?)

Okay on the WBL. I assume that includes me paying for my gear at market value until after the game starts?

Can anyone clarify if I can channel a spell cast from a wand? I'm pretty sure that I should be able to but I can't seem to find clarification.

Edit; are you okay with me getting two wand sheaths, putting wand chambers in a pair of spiked gauntlets and one in my spear?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 17, 2016, 07:19:01 AM
geniussavant
I wasn't planning on using action points, give me part of Saturday I need to look up how much that hurts an Artificer?

1. Okay on the WBL. I assume that includes me paying for my gear at market value until after the game starts?

1. Yes it does. 

2. Can anyone clarify if I can channel a spell cast from a wand? I'm pretty sure that I should be able to but I can't seem to find clarification.

2. Informally I'm slightly hoping that someone else answers this

3. Edit that seems fine, tricky, but within the rules.

And just to clarify the campaign begins years after Alexanders death,  Daedilus should have been from a different older age, your character would be older than 3 by like a factor of 150(minor quibble really could have been reactivate recently).  Archimedes lived during this time period and though young might serve as a contemporary if the age/build date was important.

oslecamo
I look foward to seeing the build.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 17, 2016, 08:46:04 AM
How much would it hurt if I changed my mind on duskblade? Feat wise, I'm strapped. Without flaws, along with a Warforged body feat and taking craft construct at level 6 to make up for the warforged racial sub level, I only have one feat to use. Was going to take poison spell and rely heavily on poisons, but I'm worried about my damage output...

Anyone mind (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=847462) taking a look and giving me some feed back?

You can capitalize your damage with duskblade using Blade of Blood. As for Weapon Augmentation, bane is always good. You can also try going nova with Spell Storing, sort of.

Melee attack + Poisoned Shocking Grasp (Arcane Channeling?) + Shocking Grasp (Spell Storing) + Blade of blood = at least 13d6 worth of damage.

Also, (for the future), consider taking 2 levels in Wyrm Wizard (https://dndtools.net/classes/wyrm-wizard/) and pick stuff like Combustion to use with arcane channeling or other good buffs you might want.

Edit: find a way to keep Heroics (https://dndtools.net/spells/spell-compendium--86/heroics--4701/) always on with Power Attack or something...
Edit2: resposting here.

2. Can anyone clarify if I can channel a spell cast from a wand? I'm pretty sure that I should be able to but I can't seem to find clarification.

As far as I am aware, Arcane Channeling can't be used with spells from a wand, due to this line here:

Quote from: Arcane Channeling
Beginning at 3rd level, you can use a standard action to cast any touch spell you know and deliver the spell through your weapon with a melee attack.

You may know the spell in the wand, but that doesn't mean you are the one casting it.

That's how I always played.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 17, 2016, 01:41:00 PM
2. Can anyone clarify if I can channel a spell cast from a wand? I'm pretty sure that I should be able to but I can't seem to find clarification.
The question is Duskblade Arcane Channeling & Wands? Without looking, I think it's a no. I believe Channeling wants you to cast a Spell you Know.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 17, 2016, 04:08:56 PM
Blade of blood works well considering I repair myself. Hadn't really thought about it. Read through one of the handbook and out had said it wasn't worth it. I disagree. And I think I could apply poison spell to it on top of everything, but I haven't actually checked.

Wrym wizard looks nice, but it will either have to wait until after level 13 or delay full attack channeling which is basically duskblade's capstone as far as important abilities go.

I was pretty sure that was the case with wands, but wanted to be sure. Would have been nice to use some artificer stuff with channeling, but it's not the end of the world. Maybe spell storing, but I'll need to look later.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 17, 2016, 06:00:40 PM
I think you should look into Divine Sacrifice instead, Paladin/Blackguard 1, Standard Action, 1rd/lvl, lose 10hp for +5d6 damage per SpCs version through BoED's allows scaling (+1d6 per 2hp, max +5d6). Then you could dress in red leather and call your self Cara. :)

Spell Storing is a good thing to look into as a Duskblade.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 18, 2016, 08:42:44 PM
Divine sacrifice looks useful. A wand with a cl of the or so would probably work. Long enough to be able to cast first round of combat and still get an attack out of it out I miss. I'll throw it in one of my wand chambers or sheaths.

Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 18, 2016, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: geniussavant on June 16, 2016, 10:03:26 PM

    (speaking of which, do I get action points?)

After doing some research on this no, I don't really want to do action points.  It seems like consensus on the internet is it doesn't hamstring the artificer to much without them.  If you seem to be falling behind the quick fix will be to give you rapid infusion as a bonus feat.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 18, 2016, 11:05:57 PM
Can I get a quick bit of info?

In respect to my theme (Champion of Light) I'd like to know what the current status of Apollo and Artemis is.  As well as the Titan, Hyperion.

I know that even dead gods can have worshipers and surviving relics but it would help me decide just what Helena's current goal is.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 19, 2016, 10:23:03 AM
I'm never going to get those two hours back figuring out who is driving the sun am I?  The gods have been forced from there traditional homes in the chaos after Alexanders reign.  His attack on Olympus was chaotic his soldiers reports contain 35 different people killing Hercules.  Much of Greece has adopted an antideist stance.  This has been relaxing as a few gods curses are fading or being removed.  Even though it is almost 30 years later, some are still in hiding. 

Artemis is alive in a weakened state mostly hunting left in her portfolio.  Poseidon is alive in a weakened state location unknown.  Hades is alive and apparently quite strong.  Apollo, Ares, Hera, Zeus can be confirmed dead.  Hyperion should be dead from Zeus' rebellion against the Titans.  Helios his son is blind(he's all seeing and would have warned the gods) and Ra the egyptian god drives the sun.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 02:36:45 PM
Are custom masterwork skill enhancers allowed? Specifically for UMD
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 19, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
Masterwork Tools, which are a +2 Circumstantial bonus, for every Skill are a part of Core. I think what you mean to ask is if custom magical items, which provide a +1~+30 Competence bonus, are ok. And if you get a no on custom values, Spellsight Spectacles out of the MiC provide a +5 comp bonus for 2.5k.

All through, if you're looking at stock piling a bunch of 1st level Spells for utility. A Drow House Insignia is significantly cheaper than an Eternal Wand at a mere 310gp, plus they are CL5 which is pretty nice. While it notes a few Spells are common, you can pick any you want.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 19, 2016, 03:20:10 PM
Well, at least Artemis survives in some form. Ra being the new driver of the Chariot is a surprise. And believe me, I understand the effort behind the determination as Apollo took the job from Hyperion so I was trying to figure out succession if Apollo was dead myself.

And Hades still being strong. Makes sense I suppose. He didn't often go to Olympus so would likely be left out of the assault.

I must take a short time to determine my goals and objectives. (Even if they end up having little to do with plot)
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 03:55:11 PM
Masterwork Tools, which are a +2 Circumstantial bonus, for every Skill are a part of Core. I think what you mean to ask is if custom magical items, which provide a +1~+30 Competence bonus, are ok. And if you get a no on custom values, Spellsight Spectacles out of the MiC provide a +5 comp bonus for 2.5k.

All through, if you're looking at stock piling a bunch of 1st level Spells for utility. A Drow House Insignia is significantly cheaper than an Eternal Wand at a mere 310gp, plus they are CL5 which is pretty nice. While it notes a few Spells are common, you can pick any you want.

That's what I meant. Shouldn't be trying to post on my break at work.

Thanks for pointing out the insignia too, had forgotten about them.

Any word on hephaestus? I haven't looked at the mechanics, but it world be fun to have an intelligent magic hammer forged by him. Maybe a custom item of legacy or item familiar. If nothing else, trying to find an item of his could be a hook for the character.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 19, 2016, 04:12:41 PM
A Drow House Insignia is significantly cheaper than an Eternal Wand at a mere 310gp, plus they are CL5 which is pretty nice. While it notes a few Spells are common, you can pick any you want.

I usually try to grab at least one for any character I make that I can get away with it. Grab Primal Instinct as a 2nd level Ranger spell and have fun with a cheap +5 competence bonus to Initiative that lasts 24 hours, or whatever else seems like a good once/day spell to have in reserve.

As for my character, I'm currently looking into Psion//Factotum for some good Int synergy, though considered Archivist for the same reason. Not sure if Factotum is the right choice, but it feels like it fits the Philosopher theme I'm going for. All skills and many other practical abilities are just a short ponder away, utilizing a bit of philosophical Inspiration. Might see about dipping into Chameleon later on as well to push the jack of all trades aspect and net that fun floating feat.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
Psion/factotum is great, I've ran a couple and had a lot of fun. You can do pretty much anything you want, at least for a little while. My made great improv characters. Seamed like anything we came across, they had a solution. Never the perfect stilton, or the easiest, but they could muddle their way through anything give time and a little thought. I remember coming across a dragon way above our ELC that should have been a straight diplomacy situation. Came down to it that the party dwarf had sworn an oath to kill every dragon he came across and wouldn't let it go. The DM warned us that it would likely kill all of us easily. the player of the dwarf insisted that we kill it. Tried to talk him down, and he wouldn't give it up. He session was about over, so the Dm said we would have to hold off on the fight until next time. Afterwords, she then pulled me aside and asked if I thought that the party had any chance in hell if she didn't fudge things. The dragon was an old black dragon (CR 16) the party was I think El 5- or six. I told her that if she didn't mind me getting a little stupid, that we could. One psionic minor creation, a few craft checks and a 5 gallon bucket of d20s later and we had a dead black dragon on our hands. Granted it was covered in black lotus extract and no one could go anywhere near it's treasure without poisoning our selves, but the dwarf was happy, and the Dm was awestruck. One of my favorite gaming sessions I remember.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 19, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
Minor edit, the Drow Insignia is 620gp for 1st level, 310gp is the crafting price.

Here is a table on it.
XPotionDrowSchemaEternalScrollWandStaff*Rune**
0:---------460 (230)12.5--- (---)--- (---)---
1:50620400820 (410)25750 (15)187.5 (3.75)100
2:3003,3002,4004,420 (2,210)1504,500 (90)1,125 (22.5)400
3:7508,2006,00010,900 (5,450)37511,250 (225)2,812.5 (56.25)900
Type:Manipulation   Command   Spell Completion   Command   Spell Completion   Spell Trigger   Spell Trigger   As Spell Used   
* Assuming tertiary spell which has a 50% discount on final cost.
**Assuming 1/day limit, remember you must also supple an equal level spell slot.


Persisting (if you have the feat)
Minor Schema of the Metamagic Item Infusion: 6,400gp, works on any Spell Trigger item.
Metamagic Wand Grip: 6,000gp, 3/day works on any Wand and consumes an extra six charges when used.
For example to Persist Blink using Metamagic Wand Grip it costs 3,575gp, 2,000 for one use of the glove and 1,575 for seven charges, per 24 hours. However the total access fee is 17,250gp and it only works for seven days before the charges run out.

Drow Insignia cost a hair more than Schemas but they don't have a required UMD check.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 08:55:51 PM
For spells that only need to be cast once a day (like magecraft) drow house insignias seem to be the better way to go. And, unless I'm mistaken, I can create it as a Warforged component and thus it can't be lost out or stolen easily.

Question: am I allowed to buy otters items as Warforged components before the game starts, or should I wait and make them myself?

My current plan is to set aside some of my wealth as "raw materials" and let my dedicated wright work in my enveloping pit every day. Use a few minutes each morning to get him set up and then continue about on my day.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 19, 2016, 09:27:27 PM
If you are playing Warforged and UMDing things, you may want to consider Wand Bonding.
(click to show/hide)

And if you can craft things, well either you need to stop because it offers no mechanical benefit without DM fait while consuming important downtime that could be used for rituals, Planar Binding, etc. or take Enhance Item.
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 19, 2016, 09:36:25 PM
Haephestus is on my list of Deities that survived he wasn't always allowed on Olympus anyways it wouldn't make sense for him to to be killed.

Rekmond
Ra being the new driver of the Chariot is a surprise.

It was to me too but I'd blame the Ptolemies for giving worship back to the Egyptian dieties.  I really need to transfer a description for the events of Olympus falling.  Technically Helios is alive on the chariot just blind. 

All three pantheons have some dead from Alexander all have some surviving.  Some have died from mortals in the intervening years.  More have been born as they now on the run are more in contact with mortals.  Which is why I need to write that baseline find a fancy title for it and the Hellenistic history portion I already wrote and then ask questions to understand peoples characters, but that is tommorow's job.  The short story is Alexander used the Olympics to sneak close and blinded killed the deities he'd need to get up Olympus unseen and surprised the Gods.  Zeus was wounded but escaped finally being killed fighting alongside Darius lll.  He continued to expand afterwords...  (does anyone know how to do Roman numerals the 3 there looks so ugly?)

Can we avoid psionic minor creation and cheap persist please?

Genius Savant that sound ok you do have the experience pool from artificer to use.



Question: am I allowed to buy otters as Warforged components before the game starts, or should I wait and make them myself?


otters, there is no price listed for adorable otters and I can't find it to strap cute otters to your body?  I really am confused by the word unsure what word you meant?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 19, 2016, 09:40:21 PM
Crafting does offer mechanical benefit the DM said low wealth low magic mart.  He acts as an important pressure release from boring +1 crap into interesting stuff, so DM fiat. 

Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 09:49:46 PM
Wand bonding I had planned on taking along with a few other feats when I have some free assuming  I start using wands frequently. Most of the time, I plan on using my duskblade spells to handle most of the characters spells.

As for crafting, while the DM beat me to it, I've already been given a bit of leeway to help the party due to the setting. It also ties the character heavily into the world's mythology and background.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 19, 2016, 09:50:35 PM
Can we avoid psionic minor creation and cheap persist please?
To be fair on Hidden Talent(psionic minor creation[black lotus extract]) poison immunity is pretty common and the amount in a "dose" is never defined and purposely arbitrary. Like it takes the same amount of poison to cover a Greatsword as a Dagger, technically speaking a gallon jug may be the amount needed for one dose of a Colossal Two-Hander and thus a gallon jug only prompts one Save. It a Player is being rule abusive, it's kind of fair game no?

Also you should probably know that thanks to the five minute reset of Arcane Swordsage, the Class can easily "persist" Spells with a duration of one minute per caster level or better, like it works great with Bull's Strength. Through obviously not with Blink since at one round per caster level you need a CL of 50 for a perpetual loop. It's actually really it's nitch, even a Warlock or Warmage can make a better glass cannon blaster, the ASS's true usage is sacrificing casting Spells outwards to focus on channeling them inwards to make him a better fighter. Sadly, all the best Spells have too short of a duration without some CL shenanigans, but I suppose that sells some of it's balance. And by lv10 it can buff two people and so on which is nice too.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
I wasn't implying that psionic minor creation should be used like that in my example. It was mostly just me sharing a night of hilarious gaming. The Dm was fully expecting me to pull something like that and had even asked me about something rediculous before hand. With that group, I always build God level shenanigans into the characters I played ti to save the party. And not just with tblessinging, but at the suggestion of the DM. She was well aware of what's possible in d&d and the group just didn't get that you can create better characters than fighters and monks.


otters, there is no price listed for adorable otters and I can't find it to strap cute otters to your body?  I really am confused by the word unsure what word you meant?

I meant items, not otters. Though I will say that the image that spurred was great. I was trying to ask, since I'm assuming there are not many, if any, other Warforged, are Warforged components for sale, or do I need to wait until after the game starts so my character can just make them himself. Although, I guess we could say that he did make them and then just deduct market value from his starting wealth.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 19, 2016, 10:21:40 PM

All three pantheons have some dead from Alexander all have some surviving.  Some have died from mortals in the intervening years.  More have been born as they now on the run are more in contact with mortals.  Which is why I need to write that baseline find a fancy title for it and the Hellenistic history portion I already wrote and then ask questions to understand peoples characters, but that is tommorow's job.  The short story is Alexander used the Olympics to sneak close and blinded killed the deities he'd need to get up Olympus unseen and surprised the Gods.  Zeus was wounded but escaped finally being killed fighting alongside Darius lll.  He continued to expand afterwords...  (does anyone know how to do Roman numerals the 3 there looks so ugly?)

I studied Latin for a while, and an fairly well versed in Greek and Roman mythology, if I can help, let me know. As far as the Roman numerals go, try changing the type face to something else. I'm not sure if the boards can handle anything not on the list, but that's how I used to do it for Latin.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 19, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
For the record, I do not plan on abusing psionic minor creation. While Socrates may have famously died by hemlock, I do not currently have any plans for poison. I try not to abuse the system unless it becomes necessary due to other players doing the same.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 20, 2016, 06:53:20 AM
Geniussavant you can have whatever you want as long as its within wealth by level, and the trip on the Marathon is free as its part of the plot.

I've taken a few classes in philosophy, classical history.  My problem lies with these Persian deities which I'm spending my time on now actually. Also in debating with myself with which deities are alive and is that common knowledge vs. disappointing characters with finding out there history and goals are invalid due to deity being killed.

SorO_Lost
I know that about arcane swordsage thus why I'm really watching your spelllist.  There are also ways around your spells being refreshed.  Lets say *prologue spoilers removed* any encounter with an event right after that leads into a third encounter minutes later.


All
So someone back a while ago mentioned plot nominally besides the prologue it isn't much yet I really will be using your histories and choices to write something out.  I've got ideas on deities, monsters, politics, and a few other major events including natural disasters.  I just don't really do dungeon diving very much.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 20, 2016, 10:59:36 AM
All
So someone back a while ago mentioned plot nominally besides the prologue it isn't much yet I really will be using your histories and choices to write something out.  I've got ideas on deities, monsters, politics, and a few other major events including natural disasters.  I just don't really do dungeon diving very much.

Where are we? Greece (or whatever other city state)? Alexandria?
Sparta still exists?
What places exist here?

Are we free to come up with whatever we would like to?

Edit: Sheet is mostly done, pending background
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 20, 2016, 11:51:58 AM
SorO_Lost
I know that about arcane swordsage thus why I'm really watching your spelllist.  There are also ways around your spells being refreshed.  Lets say *prologue spoilers removed* any encounter with an event right after that leads into a third encounter minutes later.
Yeah, pretty much.

And I already swapped in Bull's Strength too, needed 13 Int for Jack of all Trades and after that adjustment I still only have 14 Str. There has been other tweaks but nothing finalized yet.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 20, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
Ok, so edited character with background (hardly my best work but eh, not all of em can be winners).  Finished up my spending for now....Unsure if there's anything I'm really missing. Probably but I can't think of it.

I think I'm ready to go.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 20, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
All
So someone back a while ago mentioned plot nominally besides the prologue it isn't much yet I really will be using your histories and choices to write something out.  I've got ideas on deities, monsters, politics, and a few other major events including natural disasters.  I just don't really do dungeon diving very much.

Where are we? Greece (or whatever other city state)? Alexandria?
Sparta still exists?
What places exist here?

Are we free to come up with whatever we would like to?

Edit: Sheet is mostly done, pending background

You are in Crete largest city Knossos, its currently roughly 290 BC in the real world roughly 30 years post Alexanders death during the Hellenistic period.  The setting approximates as close as possible the real world save fantastical elements.  So politics as close as possible mirrors the political situation of that time.  Fantastic places include Olympus and Delphi and other minor places everywhere in the Greek world had some small legend close to the city(It was common place to write a founding myth even for colonies during this period to relate the site at least some ancient event).  So Sparta exists for example and are rigid traditionalists, but since Sparta's defeat by Thebes freed her slaves things haven't been going well.  Alexander never conquered Sparta not because they were tough, but because they weren't worth the time.  Sparta during this period reinstated the Agoge ancient training to produce the warriors of old.  They've rebelled against the Antigonid dynasty(Macedon south to Korinth) and allied with Athens, Rhodes and Syracuse(the last one isn't historical but it helps balance things better) and seem to be about to annex Crete.   

 You are leaving Crete for whatever reason you want and whatever reason you want is why you were there in the first place, and you are free to create.  I have some ideas for everywhere but am leaving part of the fantastical elements up to you all to help define.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 20, 2016, 11:19:30 PM
Has anyone ever realized just how small the duskblade spell list is? I have every 0 level spell and could learn two more if they existed. In related news, will someone look over my spells known to make sure they make sense please?

Tomorrow I will finish everything up, except maybe a picture, but that's not too important.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 21, 2016, 10:32:41 AM
Has anyone ever realized just how small the duskblade spell list is? I have every 0 level spell and could learn two more if they existed.

I know, right? Such a pity....

In related news, will someone look over my spells known to make sure they make sense please?

Maybe picking Touch of Idiocy for 2nd level? It is an almost guaranteed OHKO against animals...
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 21, 2016, 10:45:22 AM
Has anyone ever realized just how small the duskblade spell list is? I have every 0 level spell and could learn two more if they existed.

I know, right? Such a pity....

Spell selection for the one off classes has always been a pet peeve of mine. At least a couple get to steal spells from other lists.

Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 21, 2016, 01:06:12 PM
So I've found a proper philosopher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bion_of_Borysthenes) to base my character on, now just to settle on the mechanical specifics.  :D
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 21, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
Added a rough background, pretty sure I'm done with everything major. May make a few minor tweaks to the background as information comes accessible.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 22, 2016, 06:32:42 AM
VennDygrem awesome didn't think anyone would look after someone to base their character off of, never heard of him.

SorO_Lost did you have your character with items and skills chosen/hisory

geniussavant  Andras looks good.

Risada  also looks good.

Rekmond looks good

Oslecamo looks good as well.

I've reposted national information I'm getting the barbarians = or non greeks down.  Going to do a write up on Alexanders life.  I'm trying to get information down if you are waiting on me for specific information please ask.  I'll work on what you want sooner.  It might be I haven't thought that information was needed.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 22, 2016, 07:09:03 AM
I think that's what makes him so perfect to use. Hardly anyone has heard of him, and not much is known of him even to those who have. Other than a savant few details of his life, much of his story is open. Plus, he was a student of most schools of philosophy at that point, allowing me free reign to mix and match references, and fits that sort of Factotum concept.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 22, 2016, 10:34:14 AM
For future reference, can I take extra spell from complete arcane to picka spell not on the duskblade spell list? Specifically combust
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 22, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
SorO_Lost did you have your character with items and skills chosen/hisory
Equipment is what I'm stalled at I think, idk. Haven't been home much the last few days.

Edit: I did do a first pass at Skills, Jack of All Trades + Concentration, Bluff, Hide/Move, Spellcraft, & UMD.
Looks like I dropped Sadism for literately nothing too, probably because it needs actual Persistance to be useful.

History?
Probably Macedonian/Egyptian scholar that like a bad GoT rip thinks all the God revisions are the same people and fully embraces the "interpretatio graeca". The father would be a wounded Macedonian, probably missing a leg with a sepsis infection from an arrow that took most of his right arm's muscle, retired out he met the mother the librarian/scholar since I think this takes place before women were fully demoted in Egyptian society. Born and raised on theology applied to everything with the added bonus of Egypt's history of unarmed combat contests which date back over three thousand years BC.

For future reference, can I take extra spell from complete arcane to picka spell not on the duskblade spell list? Specifically combust
I had some notes for a fire theme, how far do you want to take things?
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 22, 2016, 03:57:45 PM

For future reference, can I take extra spell from complete arcane to picka spell not on the duskblade spell list? Specifically combust
I had some notes for a fire theme, how far do you want to take things?
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Want Wasn't planning on getting super involved, too much resistance to fire at high levels, and already have investment into low levels with p poison, but I'd like to take a look.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 22, 2016, 04:10:25 PM
By the way, would it be too silly for my character to be an atheist (as several prominent philosophers were), despite everyone else pretty much accepting the fact that Gods exits and the fact that the party will actually include one?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 22, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
Maybe atheism would be a bit off, but a variation of  deism might work for what you want to do. Specifically, acknowledgement that the gods exist, but do not partake in the daily events of people's lives.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 22, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
By the way, would it be too silly for my character to be an atheist (as several prominent philosophers were), despite everyone else pretty much accepting the fact that Gods exits and the fact that the party will actually include one?
Depends, you could admit that Zeus exists but view him as a 50th level character that can be killed and raised like anyone else, he simply happens to be extremely powerful and has magical abilities a more common mortal man doesn't have. If anyone rebukes that, well hell in D&D that's exactly what he is anyway.

Want Wasn't planning on getting super involved, too much resistance to fire at high levels, and already have investment into low levels with p poison, but I'd like to take a look.
Pyro (song & silence) adds +1 per die to any effect that can catch people on fire which includes Combust.
Fiery is a +1 Metamagic that does the same.
Raging Flame is a Standard Action to cast, lasts on minute, and it does the same.

The real goal though should be to Persist Fire Shield & Wreath of Flames, it's not as great as Venomfire of course but since it's not as broken you won't feel guilty for using it. Desert Wind can help too.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 22, 2016, 08:03:49 PM
For future reference, can I take extra spell from complete arcane to picka spell not on the duskblade spell list? Specifically combust


Sounds like an Ok spell.  I think it should be fine.


I think that's what makes him so perfect to use. Hardly anyone has heard of him, and not much is known of him even to those who have. Other than a savant few details of his life, much of his story is open. Plus, he was a student of most schools of philosophy at that point, allowing me free reign to mix and match references, and fits that sort of Factotum concept.

It was actually not that uncommon from my reading it was often an intellectual excessive to learn debate and rhetoric.  It's one of the reasons the Romans didn't like the Greeks they would debate each other in the forum.  They would switch who was arguing which points on different days.
By the way, would it be too silly for my character to be an atheist (as several prominent philosophers were), despite everyone else pretty much accepting the fact that Gods exits and the fact that the party will actually include one?
Not really, it would be different, the deist ideas above would be better.  Alexander did kill a Zeus. 

Other options for Deism would be to acknowledge that the deities tapped into the forms (Platonism).  Aristotle might claim that that the deities were out of balance, insane? that they were unreasonable for men to follow and had gained power but lost the senses of man?  Epicurus had some attacks on the deities it would have to be adapted a little for magic existing.  In the end an ordered life without pain was the goal.  Stoics would also show deities to be mostly petty beings.  Cynical ethics would declare the gods withholding magic fire and healing from mankind as an actual impediment to humans.  So you could have lots of formal reason for rejecting worship easily, rejecting the gods as important is a little harder and rejecting the gods from existing would be silly.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 22, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
Can I take Hidden Talent(Glorytongue (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/wn/20020925a)) or maybe just an Arcane Version to learn as a Spell instead?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 22, 2016, 09:00:50 PM
How's Andras' background look? I was going to flesh it out more, but didn't really know what would fit the campaign. I'm tempted to have him want to meet Haephestus and be in the search for Daedalus' wings (maybe the Warforged artefact component of wings) which were offered to Apollo in one of his temples( maybe they went missing during the conflict?) I'd love for him to get a hammer from Haephestus either as a weapon (reach with decent effects) or as a creating implement.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 23, 2016, 06:46:59 AM
SorO_Lost glorytongue looks like an ok spell I'm confused as to what you are doing with it?  Approved as  a spell pending description.  I understand being busy.

geniussavant
It looks good.

To everyone who hasn't put a place in I guess the ship is going straight to Delos.  As most people haven't cared where its going which is fine too.  I think only one person put a goal of where to go.  I'll double check that though.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 23, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Delos was just something I thought a good story choice for Helena due to it being where both Apollo and Artemis were born.  Not entirely sure what to do with it aside from that.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 23, 2016, 10:31:12 AM
SorO_Lost glorytongue looks like an ok spell I'm confused as to what you are doing with it?
Besides the obvious fun of running around licking things?

It's a 100ft tentacle I can see out of.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 23, 2016, 10:39:58 AM
If you need a reason to continue on after Delos, Andras could be headed to Sicily to find the wings Deadalus left in Apollo's temple in the island.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 23, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
My apocalyptic abomination of a character sheet is posted, let the doomsaying nerfs begin.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 23, 2016, 12:04:08 PM
At first glance it doesn't look too bad to me, although I thought flaws had been nixed.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 23, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
At first glance it doesn't look too bad to me, although I thought flaws had been nixed.
Were they? Well it's a good thing two of them are pretty much replaceable.

Annnd fixed.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 24, 2016, 06:40:00 AM
Don't worry I have plenty of ideas, and obviously just because I asked a location doesn't mean that the boat will end up there easily, the prologue quote is from the Odyssey.


I think I'll start asking questions while we are waiting on VennDygrem,  keeping things spoilered due to the information given might mean that you have exposure to information that others do not have.

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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 24, 2016, 01:32:32 PM
instead of posting it as a spoiler, there is a way to make parts of a post 'private' to certain players.  Or at least I think there was, hard to separate out 1 board from the 5 or 6 I tend to use.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 24, 2016, 02:54:56 PM
instead of posting it as a spoiler, there is a way to make parts of a post 'private' to certain players.  Or at least I think there was, hard to separate out 1 board from the 5 or 6 I tend to use.
Not here, it's PMs, or annoying separate threads instead of the far easier and more organized spoilers but anyone can still read them anyway.

You could just not click on them you know.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 24, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
Ah, after looking on the coding board I figured that out. Suppose that's the limits of any one system, but it isn't so bad.

And yeah, I know, just thought that there was a better way.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 24, 2016, 10:38:39 PM
I've found that secrets from players tends not to work but secrets with characters work ok.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on June 24, 2016, 10:45:24 PM
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 25, 2016, 01:16:42 AM
I think I'll start asking questions while we are waiting on VennDygrem,  keeping things spoilered due to the information given might mean that you have exposure to information that others do not have.

Sorry, had a bit of a scare with my Dad going to the hospital and being kept overnight for observation. I'll get more work done soon.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 25, 2016, 06:58:28 AM
Family is more important than a game take your time.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 26, 2016, 04:52:37 PM
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 26, 2016, 05:14:49 PM
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 26, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 26, 2016, 06:20:29 PM
So right now I'm at the point of trying to pick a discipline. Several have good discipline exclusive powers, and I already have all skills as class skills so that aspect doesn't affect me.

If I go shaper I could heal the Warforged though I don't expect that to be a huge deal. Having an Astral Construct around in addition to my psicrystal would be decent to fit the whole debate aspect of my philosopher, though though it doesn't last long enough for that to come up either.

Seer or whilst might fit just as well.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 26, 2016, 06:36:51 PM
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Hm... I thought I put it clearly in my background.

By the time he finished his training and succeeded in becoming a full Spartan citizen through the Agoge, the Spartan King Archidamus IV lost against Demetrius Poliorcetes of Macedonia. This was Agamemnon's last straw. He left Sparta, abandoned everything he had built until then and went to Crete, to start over and live however he wanted.

I meant to use Sparta losing yet another battle as the reason Agamemnon lost faith in the weak government. And even if there's a law stating that a spartan must stay forever in the army he will abandon the army regardless.

I can add this rising cult to Isis in my background as well.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 26, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
So right now I'm at the point of trying to pick a discipline.

I almost exclusively have played shapers and egoists. Shapers are great for playing GOD and egoists are great at self buffing for melee.

As far as healing Andras(the Warforged), I've planned to do most of his own healing using either craft checks or artificer infusions, but it would be nice if someone was able to heal him if he can't himself.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on June 26, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 26, 2016, 09:54:19 PM
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Hm... I thought I put it clearly in my background.

By the time he finished his training and succeeded in becoming a full Spartan citizen through the Agoge, the Spartan King Archidamus IV lost against Demetrius Poliorcetes of Macedonia. This was Agamemnon's last straw. He left Sparta, abandoned everything he had built until then and went to Crete, to start over and live however he wanted.

I meant to use Sparta losing yet another battle as the reason Agamemnon lost faith in the weak government. And even if there's a law stating that a spartan must stay forever in the army he will abandon the army regardless.

I can add this rising cult to Isis in my background as well.

That's why you left Sparta and a good reason to leave Crete but it might also be a great reason to stay in Knossos and fight the spartan king.  The party is leaving Crete.

Oslecamo just schooled me about crossbows, I'm kinda sad that is in a spoiler, I feel like I'm getting more schooled in history and myth as I do this, which is fun.  Oslecamo you are good to go.

VennDygrem no clue what discipline, but would you mind doing the history part when you get the chance? I might get the opening started this week. 


Someone asked for this, I edited this into the original post for the recruitment thread.

We are going to do a 6th level gestalt game.
I will be allowing 1 homebrew class per person at most.
32 point by
 3/4 hit die so d4=3 d6=5 d8=6 d10=7 d12=8
Pathfinders condensed skill list.  So don't add flight, but the skills they removed were good choices.


Rekmond cool you are good to go, I don't have anything more but might ask more later.

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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on June 26, 2016, 10:18:50 PM
Also what does your character believe happens when a deity dies but has a different form in a differing culture?
Probably a cross between it all.

The Norse/Greek/Roman Gods all pretty much have mortal/immortal traits. Like in death they can be emtombed or chained to a rock and tortured, etc. Over in the Egyptian souls have parts, the Ka, Ba, and Akh. So it seems when a God kills another he probably takes part of the soul and thus the Deities are a great game of mix and match. Ragnorok happened and in the shuffle the Norse deities became the Greeks and so on.

Works for me if it works for you.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 26, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
That's why you left Sparta and a good reason to leave Crete but it might also be a great reason to stay in Knossos and fight the spartan king.  The party is leaving Crete.

I am going with the party for now toward whatever is our destination. The current Sparta is not worth the effort for Agamemnon.
Will add a few lines about the cult to Isis tomorrow.

Also, I had completely forgotten about how we were using Pathinder's skills, so I edited my sheet again.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 26, 2016, 11:02:14 PM
Will probably go Shaper then, but I'll make a decision soon. (This is the first psionic character I've made.)

As for the history, I'll have that up soon too. Bion will mostly be out seeking new forms of knowledge and points of view to expand his philosophical repertoire. Furthermore, he'd be out attempting to teach others the wisdom and skills he's learned, as he is in his period of classical sophism, traveling through Greece teaching philosophy. I'll write up the specifics soon.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 26, 2016, 11:05:16 PM
I had missed that about the skills too, but I don't think I have ranks in anything that got changed so it's not a big deal.

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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 26, 2016, 11:37:05 PM
yay, I passed inspection
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 27, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
Dr_emperor: What's your take on magic/psionics transparency?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 27, 2016, 06:56:18 AM
The one that makes them the most the same.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 27, 2016, 07:10:11 AM
So, in that case should I also assume knowledge (arcana) and (psionics) are more or less the same, as well as UMD and Use Psionic Device?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 27, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
You may and can do that freely
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 28, 2016, 02:00:57 AM
So what's the time frame on game starting? I figure we're mostly done on the player end so hopefully it'll be soon.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 28, 2016, 06:06:45 AM
I'll put an opening in the game late tommorow I think unless something comes up.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 28, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Something I've forgotten to ask: what other languages do we have?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on June 28, 2016, 06:50:47 PM
I'll have a Background write-up tonight and post what I've got for my sheet so you can get things moving. Stuff with my family has taken a lot of time (the aforementioned hospital fiasco with my dad, plus today is my Mother's birthday) but I should be pretty good shortly.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 29, 2016, 09:04:51 PM
Something I've forgotten to ask: what other languages do we have?

I posted this in an unorganized place.  If I start another game I'll create an organized character creation place, sorry.

Macedonian Greek will be replacing common.  Other languages spiraling will be Persian, Egyptian, Phoenician (many traders), Celtic, Sarmatian, Indian.   Yes those languages probably have different names, if you are linguistically better please correct.  They came in differing dialects but that's not worth our time.  You get standard languages but one *gets an asteric as primary.  I assume everyone will be taking Greek so if not Macedonian Greek use Greek (city name).   Monster languages include Fey and the elementals, and a few racials like giant.


I modified the start for the game, so Ilea iacta est.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 30, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
Um, Genius, Risada.....did you miss the fact there there is something to do right now?  We're still attached to the docks and apparently need to leave yesterday.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 30, 2016, 02:33:36 PM
Hense

unless asked to do something specific.

I'm waiting for someone to tell me how to unhook the ship or what not. Andras has no idea about ship sailing and has no desire to stand out by making a fool of himself by screwing things up.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on June 30, 2016, 02:37:55 PM
Um, Genius, Risada.....did you miss the fact there there is something to do right now?  We're still attached to the docks and apparently need to leave yesterday.

It's not very clear to me what can be done, so...

Edited my post with an action.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on June 30, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Fair enough, didn't read it that way but it makes sense.

I'm not even sure what to do since my character has low Str and there's no real need for a scout or lookout just yet.

Not to mention firing arrows at the guard doesn't seem like something Helena would do without provocation.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on June 30, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
It is a confusing situation.  At least that came across correctly. 

Risada roll damage if you would.  Do we need a separate thread for that?  Does anyone know how to sticky the prologue?  I should have asked these questions earlier.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on June 30, 2016, 08:13:01 PM
I usually just spoiler my rolls for anything outside or combat. In combat, a separate thread is helpful.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on July 01, 2016, 08:34:15 AM
Just out of curiosity, because I can't seam to figure it out. What are these rolls for?

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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on July 01, 2016, 08:57:37 AM
I'm also confused. Has the mob flooded onto the ship? Bion would be in the middle of the deck trying to stay out of the way of the rowers and those who were near the plank.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on July 01, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Edited my other post with the rolls.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 01, 2016, 12:32:52 PM
If the plank isn't broken off by now I'll finish it off, otherwise I'll start taking care of the mob.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on July 01, 2016, 07:03:48 PM
Just out of curiosity, because I can't seam to figure it out. What are these rolls for?

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I'm lazy and if the archers had actually hit don't like to do 2 posts for hitting and damage so that was if they had landed damage on anyone.

VennDygrem sorry I understood that as you running up the plank from the dock not running up to the deck.

oslecamo the ship  is kinda smaller than that but you easily get to the other edge of the ship.  I'm going to assume away from the archers towards the front of the ship.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on July 01, 2016, 11:19:37 PM
My repair damage roll should have been 3d8+7(cl6+1 for infuse self) + 1(from cha mod tools of war) the roller didn't like the way I imputed it.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 02, 2016, 02:23:22 AM
sorry bout the posting delay, was at comic shop tonight that has apparently decided to cut patrons off from the wifi.

Tried to play off the pause some, I think it would be plausible.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on July 02, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Rekmond, Geniussavant combat isn't over, if you would like to change your action.  Though you've won the biggest portion.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 02, 2016, 04:29:19 PM
Made small edit so I can use a full attack when ready action can't do full round actions. (can't believe I forgot that)

and now I feel like an idiot having somehow missed the range details in that post.  I need brain food. so that is -1 on both to hit and damage for all 3 of those attacks.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on July 02, 2016, 11:15:56 PM
I considered enshrouding the docks in darkness (via Control Light) to give us total concealment, but I think that the power would fail as soon as we leave range, so it wouldn't do much good for long if we're already 100 ft from the archers and 80 feet from the other soldiers.

Unfortunately, I rolled minimum damage... Anyway, the archers/objects get a Reflex save for 1/2 (again, min 1), at DC 18.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on July 03, 2016, 09:17:31 PM
@Dr emperor: would you let me trade craft construct (my 6hd feat) for rapid infusion? The more I look at it, the less I plan to use craft construct right away( having bought a dedicated wright) and rapid infusion would open up a bunch of options during combat for me.

If not, it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 04, 2016, 01:34:57 PM
Oslecamo, that Pegasus has an amazingly ridiculous carry capacity, I love it.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on July 04, 2016, 03:41:04 PM
Hopefully it should be enough, given this ship is likely smaller than a Greek warship/trireme. Apparently those, fully decked out and carrying ~200 men, would weigh about 50 tonnes, which is double the pegasus's max push. However, this small merchant ship, with far fewer sailors/oarsmen, is likely less than half the size, right? So it should work out pretty well.

For reference, that pegasus right now could carry more than 10 of my character and hardly even notice.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on July 04, 2016, 07:10:22 PM
Also, the boat is floating on water, meaning it should count as lighter. That's kinda half  the reason people built boats, they make it much easier to transport big loads.

That and the pegasus isn't working alone since there's a bunch of oarsmen helping.

Oslecamo, that Pegasus has an amazingly ridiculous carry capacity, I love it.

Me too! :D
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on July 04, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
Entire line of bull's strength and family. As well as some others.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 06, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
Forgot I should've probably pointed it out, but with my Merciful class feature I can freely do non-lethal damage with my attacks and illuminations.

I think I'll default to non-lethal from now on when dealing with humanoid characters. No sense in killing people when I don't NEED to.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on July 06, 2016, 11:51:25 PM
I've refined the inspiration for my character a bit more, it seems...

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Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 07, 2016, 02:20:16 AM
heh, if you turn into a germ to kill a dragon.........
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on July 07, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
Rekmond I'll keep that in mind when describing actions.  If it ever comes up you subdued those two archers not killed.

Geniussavant yea that's fair switch the feat out. What about bull's strength?

VennDygrem I kinda got that.  They fit together pretty well.  The history for Bion could fit with Merlins personality.


Yes triremes apparently got very heavy.  I had to make sure that Delos was outside of Oslecamo's flight range which is pretty impressive.   Its technically not but its at least would force the Pegasus to make constitution checks if they tried to fly straight.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on July 07, 2016, 12:01:00 PM
It was part of a clarification on my part about what temporary magic items Andras can create.

And thanks, well make the modifications now.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on July 10, 2016, 10:03:44 AM
You guys were surprisingly productive while I was away.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on July 10, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
I'm rather happy with it, its been relatively fast paced for a play by post.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 11, 2016, 01:13:41 AM
Sorry bout my short abcense but large part of my county is without power atm. Might be back tomorrow. Using cell atm.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on July 11, 2016, 07:49:03 PM
I'm rather happy with it, its been relatively fast paced for a play by post.
Yeah it has.

I was out on vacation #1 last week and the problem is that means I come back to a ton of paperwork and Skyrim is taking my procrastination slot so I'm a bit behind. I'll throw up my Gather Information check in the roll thread and get around to posting something real quick.

Edit - And that'll do for now I hope.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on July 17, 2016, 09:24:52 AM
Sorry work was crazy this week didn't get a chance until now.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on July 19, 2016, 05:43:29 PM
so the captain was a pirate who still has connections.

Ya know, I don't think I've ever played a game where I was this side of the pirate/potential victim equation.  Fairly fun so far.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 03, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
let's see. The enemies are 800 ft out at present, my range increments is 110, and I only take a -1 penalty for each increment beyond the 1st. Oh, and normal ranged weapons, not thrown, can fire at maximum 10 increments........

I think I can hit them, that should only be a -7 right? add another -2 for Rapid shot and a net -9 on all 3 of my attacks.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 04, 2016, 07:01:41 PM
And I called it fast paced, I'm going to keep advancing on the weekend if that is all right with people?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 04, 2016, 07:03:25 PM
Weekends are typically the best time for me to post in pbps, barring the county going to hell like it has been, but I still have Friday so I'm not worried. Go ahead if you like.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 05, 2016, 03:00:57 AM
Bad news.....I think my attack turned out to be more of a warning volley...

Good news, at the speed they are moving....I have a little while to try again
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on August 05, 2016, 08:25:55 AM
I'll be up today
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 05, 2016, 10:10:24 PM
So I just realized I forgot Collector of Stories. :(
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 06, 2016, 02:19:04 PM
Change it, it shouldn't be a big deal, make sure you pay the cost though.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 06, 2016, 03:27:10 PM
I just traded some UMD Ranks out for it, hit the +5 bonus because of it too. :)
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 06, 2016, 03:59:57 PM
So....I'm gonna say they did not like me shooting at them.

Then again that's probably a good thing. Enemies who LIKE being shot at are typically far far worse.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on August 10, 2016, 07:36:26 AM
I apologize for my recent silence, but my computer has been having problems. Frequently crashing, seems like the hard drive is failing, so for the near future I won't be able to keep my online stuff up to date.

If anybody wants to NPC Egua feel free to.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 11, 2016, 04:48:46 AM
well that's disappointing, and quite saddening to have happen to any computer.  I hope you get the problem fixed soon.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 15, 2016, 07:28:54 PM
did we go down to three people?  :bigeyes

I'll make it work
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: VennDygrem on August 15, 2016, 09:54:06 PM
Sorry, I've been quite busy lately. I'd certainly like to keep going, but I also don't want to hold the game back. I think my character requires a bit too much set-up and planning time. Probably would have been better to go with a bashy-smashy sort of character...
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 16, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Risada you have reach, I forgot, You have an attack on that harpy that flew by.  Are you singing on that action its you turns again.

Venn we are still early if you'd like to change same personality you've only cast one spell, warmage or wilder might have less options.  Or you could take another passenger maybe one of the crowd, (technically we could work you into the island as well.)
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on August 17, 2016, 08:33:15 AM
Risada you have reach, I forgot, You have an attack on that harpy that flew by.  Are you singing on that action its you turns again.

I edited the AoO in... I believe I landed a crit on the harpy.

Will take the current turn's actions.

Edit: does the crew seem like it's getting ready to attack, or we are fighting on our own?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 17, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
I'm confused.

I thought they weren't supposed to physically reach us until next turn, so how did they hit in a manner to cause an AoO?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 17, 2016, 04:07:34 PM
They had initiative in the round following the free round you got,  It was surprising but there initiative both the leader singing and the other 5 now 3 rolled a 20 on initiative and you all ended up rolling pretty poorly.  You received a free turn, but didn't have full information on when the harpies were placed in the initiative order.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 17, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
Just so I understand things correctly, Rekmond is getting a retroactive turn and Risda had to add an AoO in which means we're still on round 1 or I may not have to make a Will Save if they all retroactively die right?

Kill them all you two. *cheers you on*
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 17, 2016, 09:08:55 PM
I'm confused on what I did wrong? 

Round one everyone flies in, they get spotted.  You all get a turn.  Round 2 they fly in further you all get a second round.  I gave most of the party a week to post.  Inititiative comes into play on the last round harpies win, act on round three charge the distance. Agamemnon well aware of harpies coming in has reach they fly by through a threatened square, only barely they only hit people outside of the ship.  (though now I'm realizing the pegasus is huge and also has reach, and it is also your turns again.)
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 17, 2016, 10:14:44 PM
Risada, it looks more like they made their last turn, and because they won initiative, immediately took next turn.  So we're in same turn as them, just they've already gotten their moves.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on August 18, 2016, 06:39:39 AM
....So I have one more turn beside the one I keep screaming?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on August 18, 2016, 05:29:59 PM
I'm still here, classes just started up for me so things are a little crazy. I'll try and post a bit more, but if it would be better, I can bow out.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on August 18, 2016, 06:12:39 PM
No need for that, I remember when classes started not always a fun time.  I'm trying to give at least a week between posts if I don't get actions or at least a weekend. 

Risada I thought you took all three actions, you are the only one who has.

Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 19, 2016, 10:07:45 AM
I'm confused on what I did wrong?
Did you do something wrong? It's the first Encounter and there is some patching for not knowing who has Reach or Surprise Rounds right? It's not a big deal, just kind of a communication thing and pbp's in general make that area harder.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on August 19, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
Can someone figure out my dice rolls? I can't get the format right. Thanks
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on August 19, 2016, 12:47:24 PM
Can someone figure out my dice rolls? I can't get the format right. Thanks
You use roll tags.

Since I can't actually write them without the form converting them I'm going to add an s.
[rolls]{Attack} 1d20+4[/rolls] produces
attack 1d20+4 : 8 + 4, total 12

Which if you attempt to edit/quote the post is replaced with the blockquote tag and the forums auto include a tampered with message.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on August 19, 2016, 08:04:34 PM
geniussavant, did you add Agamemnon's Inspire Courage in your rolls?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on August 20, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
Somehow I added it to attack but not damage, whoops
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on August 23, 2016, 06:25:54 AM
So I made my actions (rather simple all things considered) and after looking over the rolls so far

I made the first Nat 1 To Hit of the game.............yay.....and it just happened to be the attack that rolled max damage too....min maxing in the saddest of ways.

being hit for close to a fifth of my hp too, needless to say that I'd like to discipline said harpy.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on September 01, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
ok, so we still have 1 Harpy left.

Someone else wanna take a shot at it so I can try sniping the Manticores? Or should I just go ahead and eliminate her?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on September 02, 2016, 09:26:47 AM
Who's supposed to act now? Should I just attack it anyway?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on September 02, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
yes probably someone should.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on September 05, 2016, 06:23:23 PM
I'll be posting later tonight.

Got some labor day shenanigans to get through first.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on September 09, 2016, 09:25:07 AM
I'm back with a fixed computer, just need some time to catch up with the IC.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on September 09, 2016, 05:43:18 PM
Sweet, glad you got it fixed. Not much happened aside from us slaying the Harpies so far.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on September 09, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
yep combat moves slower, you have 2 ful rounds worth of actions the manticores are flying in on round one shooting on round 2.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on September 13, 2016, 12:18:04 PM
(click to show/hide)

Osle, don't forget Agamemnon's Inspire Courage in your damage.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on September 14, 2016, 05:53:13 AM
Running behind this week everyone Genius Savant has another attack too, will get to this on the weekend.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on September 26, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
Those high To Hit rolls, owww.

Thankfully no crits though or my corpse falling from the sky would've been a very likely outcome.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on September 27, 2016, 06:28:50 PM
I wasn't really expecting that.


 Sorry for the slow posting should be better this next 3 weeks not running over 12 hour days.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 05, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Ols you should be hasted allowing you to make a second attack if you can reload your crossbow fast enough (such as using a repeater).
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on October 05, 2016, 11:23:58 PM
sadly Risada and I are in the sky. No haste for us.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on October 07, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
Ols you should be hasted allowing you to make a second attack if you can reload your crossbow fast enough (such as using a repeater).

No proficiency. I guess I have enough attack bonus to reliably use one, but then the extra weight would make poor Egua encumbred. Also less thematic since repeating crossbows are from ancient China and stuff. :P
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 07, 2016, 11:42:02 AM
Theoretically,  the Greeks had the tech to build one.  Link (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybolos)
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on October 17, 2016, 05:11:09 AM
just sitting here. Twiddling my thumbs.

wonder how old that expression is anyways
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 17, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
just sitting here. Twiddling my thumbs.
wonder how old that expression is anyways
Idk, I invented thumbs a couple million years ago but back then no one wore any clothing so they twiddled with something else.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 18, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
Who all has the ability to fly?  Andras can use spell storing item to cast air walk on himsel at the cost of 6 xp or Fly for 15 xp. Unlesso someone thinks we can save the boat...
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on October 18, 2016, 07:21:56 PM
I can fly indefinitely. Unable to aid anyone else though since I have a low carry capacity.

As to saving the boat, the best I could do there is play lookout. I'm a Diplomat and a Warrior, not a craftsman.

Much as I hate to say it, our best bet is probably to get the boat as close to shore as possible to maximize the number of people surviving the vessel going down. What happens once we get on the island though is anyone's guess.

I can try and put holes into whatever damaged the ship if it returns to try and nom on sailors though.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 18, 2016, 11:58:37 PM
Now is a perfect time to break out those Mending Spells huh. :p
It's a shame I never once thought about Cantrips on the Blue Mage until now, and editing it would be so cheap.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 19, 2016, 09:22:58 AM
How does the artificer not have mending on its list?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 19, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
How does the artificer not have mending on its list?
Because the people that wrote it probably meant for it to be an NPC Class, the people that updated it didn't know what they were doing, the editor was high on opioids, and the four man staff at WotC just wanted an easy pay check for the week, and the Errata was just a joke that became a thing.

The end result? The Artificer.
Literally the worst Class to use for all of it's flavor says it's supposed to do.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 19, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
I laugh, but honestry, the artificer comes down to a couple of class features: personal weapon augmentation: bane, spell storing item infusion, the ability to use metamagic on charged items, and free craft Feats. The artificer has no magical ability to repair items whatsoever. Well, unless you count unseen crafter...
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on October 19, 2016, 10:17:00 PM
And playing without the Hero Point system or whatever D&D called it requires a good deal of forethought. Full minute to imbue, most gms I know look at that and laugh evilly.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 19, 2016, 10:44:20 PM
Yeah you pretty much need Unfettered Heroism ran by an IV drip to counteract Infusion casting times.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 19, 2016, 11:24:31 PM
That's why I took the feast that let's me speed up 3/day.  Otherwise the artificer infusions aren't usually worth it.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: oslecamo on October 20, 2016, 10:38:10 AM
How many people could a huge pegasus carry?

Any chance we can tie ropes to its back and have the people hang from them? How many on this ship again?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 20, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
And ras has an enveloping pit... just saying.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on October 20, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
I'm more amazed at the number of options the group actually has.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 20, 2016, 07:43:20 PM
How many people are on the ship total?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Dr_emperor on October 29, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
Everyone ok with advancing to the island? or are we thinking of trying to fly further?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Risada on October 29, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
I'm fine with skipping to the island.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on October 29, 2016, 11:32:56 PM
If we can make it, sure.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: geniussavant on October 30, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
I'm okay with that as well
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on October 30, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
I'm okay with heading to island. My main plan was mostly to fly over while healing anyone in need of it. Agamemnon and myself were impaled by spines just a little bit after all.
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on November 29, 2016, 07:45:38 PM
is The Emperor dead? D'ya think he needs a doctor?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 31, 2016, 10:40:22 AM
I apologize for the hiatus on my end, the game still going?
Title: Re: OOC:Quisque est Barbarus Alio
Post by: Rekmond on December 31, 2016, 12:13:21 PM
To my eternal sadness, it doesn't seem to be.

Suppose it could revive when the new year settles in.....but it was dead in November even.