The Enabler

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Sigil does have its own dangers but yea, you can get anything there. Just don't do anything to piss off the Lady of Pain...

Hey ... I was googling around yesterday,
and noticed the Sapph is your favorite PrC.
+1 Crystal Legal Muffins, perhaps ?

[littha]

Possibly.

It is my favorite PRC, mostly because the art is awesomesauce.

It is also possible to get into the class at level 4 provided you have the right race/feats.

Asurin Cleric 3/Incarnate 1: Law and Incarnium Domains, spend a feat on Shape Soulmeld. and you meet all the prerequisites.

You could use totemist instead of incarnate, either works.

[Halinn]

Where does it say again that the city of Sigil has sucker 17th level casters that will happilly answer your summons?

no gp limit applies when buying or selling goods in the City of Doors, and NPCs of any class and level combination can be found there.

It's page 167. Interesting that by the RAW, Sigil has an infinite population in a finite amount of space.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

SRD says a 9th level spell costs 90gp x caster level. However:
 1. See spell description for additional costs. If the additional costsput the spell’s totalcost above 3,000 gp, that spell is notgenerally available.

The xp = 5gp each exceeds 3k sadly

Sure, it'd be what the temple has available and don't forget that juicy discount.
So let's go with 30 000 gp, and then the discount <= 3000 gp total cost.

[oslecamo]

Where does it say again that the city of Sigil has sucker 17th level casters that will happilly answer your summons?

no gp limit applies when buying or selling goods in the City of Doors, and NPCs of any class and level combination can be found there.

You know what that means right?

There's 175 base classes in D&D, not counting prcs.
The city of Sigil has at least one 17th level NPC for each possible class combination.
This means the City of Sigil has 175^17 17th level NPCs, aka 1,354 at the order of 38.
The City of Doors has hundreds of millions of millions of millions of millions of millions of millions of 17th level NPCs.
And even more 18th level NPCs. And yet more 19th level NPCs. And let's not mention 200+ level NPCs.
Screw the Lady of Pain, I don't want to risk messing with that overzerg rush of high level NPCs!

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Where does it say again that the city of Sigil has sucker 17th level casters that will happilly answer your summons?

no gp limit applies when buying or selling goods in the City of Doors, and NPCs of any class and level combination can be found there.

It's page 167. Interesting that by the RAW, Sigil has an infinite population in a finite amount of space.

So the bare bones build could be and easy
Cleric 3 / Incarnate or Totemist 3 / Sapphire Hierarch 1
and that implies a max of 2nd level spells.
But that'd be not so much a ~temple, instead a chapel.
Who knows wtf exactly a "temple" is.

[phaedrusxy]

Where does it say again that the city of Sigil has sucker 17th level casters that will happilly answer your summons?

no gp limit applies when buying or selling goods in the City of Doors, and NPCs of any class and level combination can be found there.

It's page 167. Interesting that by the RAW, Sigil has an infinite population in a finite amount of space.

It's not called the City of Doors for nothing. They don't have to actually be IN Sigil all the time. They just have to be quickly accessible from it (which considering that the back door to their shop could easily connect to another plane, isn't a problem).

But this whole thing seems like a huge sidetrack... /sigh. Can we just assume that, for the sake of argument, that somewhere, somehow, you can find a dude willing to sell you a Wish? If so, then you can Wish for magic items for half the market cost. That seems like a major rules-hole, and I'm amazed that I'd never heard anyone point it out before this thread... Anyone else amazed?

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Possibly.

It is my favorite PRC, mostly because the art is awesomesauce.

It is also possible to get into the class as Cleric 3/Incarnate 1 provided you have the right race/feats.

Are you going through a Blue period?
(... err like Picasso, not a silly boy joke)

Incarnate or Totemist 1 needs 1 Shape Soulmeld feat,
Duskling or Azuran, and the tough part, 1 more Essentia.
Maybe that magic item one shot 1 Essentia, to qualify.
(this is T.O. after all)

[FlaminCows]

Duskling or Azuran, and the tough part, 1 more Essentia.

That's not tough at all. Almost every damn feat in Magic of Incarnum gives you extra essentia!

[oslecamo]

But this whole thing seems like a huge sidetrack... /sigh. Can we just assume that, for the sake of argument, that somewhere, somehow, you can find a dude willing to sell you a Wish? If so, then you can Wish for magic items for half the market cost. That seems like a major rules-hole, and I'm amazed that I'd never heard anyone point it out before this thread... Anyone else amazed?

Not me, because by that reading it means the the biggest minds in the setting are nothing but submissive bitches that will appear as soon as you call them and gladly lick your feet for a few gold.

[littha]

Duskling or Azuran, and the tough part, 1 more Essentia.

That's not tough at all. Almost every damn feat in Magic of Incarnum gives you extra essentia!

Notably Incarnium spellcasting, which is a bonus feat given by the Incarnium domain.

Thus Asurin Cleric 3/Totemist 1 with the Law and Incarnium domains has 3 essentia, take Shape Soulmeld and you can shape 3 soulmelds. All you need then are 4 ranks in two skills which is trivial.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

FlamingCows ... oops right.

So
Azuran Cleric 1 / Inc or Tot 1 / Sapph 1+
2 flaws Shape Soulmeld feat and a 1 Essentia feat
Planning + Law domains
Heighten + DMM Heighten feats (on 1 and Azuran bonus)
Spellgifted Trait on Law
+1 CL one shot item (yondalla's something)
3)  Extra Slot feat , needs a 4 CL
... have to coordinate the DMM, extra slot,
and the item to qualify for Sapph.

[littha]

FlamingCows ... oops right.

So
Azuran Cleric 1 / Inc or Tot 1 / Sapph 1+
2 flaws Shape Soulmeld feat and a 1 Essentia feat
Planning + Law domains
Heighten + DMM Heighten feats (on 1 and Azuran bonus)
Spellgifted Trait on Law
+1 CL one shot item (yondalla's something)
3)  Extra Slot feat , needs a 4 CL
... have to coordinate the DMM, extra slot,
and the item to qualify for Sapph.

Why do you need an item? Asurin gives 1 essentia, the feat gives 1 Essentia and Incarnate or Totemist gives 1 Essentia. You only need 3.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Duskling or Azuran, and the tough part, 1 more Essentia.

That's not tough at all. Almost every damn feat in Magic of Incarnum gives you extra essentia!

Notably Incarnium spellcasting, which is a bonus feat given by the Incarnium domain.

Thus Asurin Cleric 3/Totemist 1 with the Law and Incarnium domains has 3 essentia, take Shape Soulmeld and you can shape 3 soulmelds. All you need then are 4 ranks in two skills which is trivial.

Yeah this is probably best, easiest.
Loses the DMM trickery which you don't really need.
 

[awaken_D_M_golem]

FlamingCows ... oops right.

So
Azuran Cleric 1 / Inc or Tot 1 / Sapph 1+
2 flaws Shape Soulmeld feat and a 1 Essentia feat
Planning + Law domains
Heighten + DMM Heighten feats (on 1 and Azuran bonus)
Spellgifted Trait on Law
+1 CL one shot item (yondalla's something)
3)  Extra Slot feat , needs a 4 CL
... have to coordinate the DMM, extra slot,
and the item to qualify for Sapph.

Why do you need an item? Asurin gives 1 essentia, the feat gives 1 Essentia and Incarnate or Totemist gives 1 Essentia. You only need 3.

Going for the 4th CL to get Extra Slot, to power the DMM cheese.
 

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Sigil ... let's say there's a Cleric 10 / Incarnate 1 / Sapph 10 dude.

Sure you go Divinations + get him with Gate.  Gotta bring him to a Temple.
I'm not sure what happens next whether Temple rules apply to the dude.

[oslecamo]

Sigil ... let's say there's a Cleric 10 / Incarnate 1 / Sapph 10 dude.

Sure you go Divinations + get him with Gate.  Gotta bring him to a Temple.
I'm not sure what happens next whether Temple rules apply to the dude.

Deities and unique beings are under no compulsion to come through the gate

[FlaminCows]

But he's not a unique being. "NPCs" (plural) of any class and combination? Pow, find two of them. Now neither of them are unique! 

[oslecamo]

In that case, you still can't because it only says class and level combination, prestige classes not included in Sigil.

[littha]

Prestige Classes are still Classes... It does not specifically say Base Classes.