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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 10:38:33 AM »
It breaks limits completely. Yes, that is completely broken to high hell and back.


And by deal with it, i mean use it in the most broken way possible.

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 10:41:42 AM »
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Having non-ECL bloodlines would be nice, but I'll deal.  :D  I'm going to post a build over in Min/Max for comments shortly.

EDIT: 1 more question.  Flaws/Traits?

In terms of type of game, I really don't care.  The char will be neutral (so I can grab both KotW and Escalation Mage [in epic]).  He should be able to handle pretty much everything.  I'd rather high-level, though.
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 10:57:38 AM »
Sooo... what's the level BTW?
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 11:01:00 AM »
2 flaws, 2 traits

I'm not sure what level we're gonna start at. Since sirpercival wants high-level, I'm thinking level 15-20-ish.

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 11:05:12 AM »
Someone needs to abuse node spellcasting with acorn of far travel shenanigans.

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2012, 12:24:39 PM »
Someone needs to abuse node spellcasting with acorn of far travel shenanigans.
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2012, 12:27:26 PM »
What's your take on Antifeats?

Also, my char thread is up for perusal on the Min/Max board here.
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2012, 12:37:54 PM »
Seen it, commented.

Antifeats are from which book again?

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2012, 12:42:38 PM »
Kingdoms of Kalamar Villain Design Handbook.
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2012, 12:51:54 PM »
 :o :o :o

That is the most broken variant i have ever seen.

I am going to allow it.  :P

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 01:03:49 PM »
Sweeeeeet.  Do you want to roll them, or shall I?
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 01:07:08 PM »
I will roll them. I assume you will be wanting the full 20 antifeats / 10 bonus feats?

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 01:21:59 PM »
Indeed.  :)
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 01:24:20 PM »
Rolls:
1d1000=577, 1d1000=669, 1d1000=686, 1d1000=301, 1d1000=889, 1d1000=943, 1d1000=890, 1d1000=635, 1d1000=244, 1d1000=179, 1d1000=252, 1d1000=26, 1d1000=918, 1d1000=303, 1d1000=239, 1d1000=74, 1d1000=95, 1d1000=836, 1d1000=72, 1d1000=946

Rerolls:

1d1000=10, 1d1000=616

Movement Check
Psionic Fist
Pyro
Extra Smiting
Sprint
Thug
Fast Wild SHape
Enhance Familar: Smart
Destiny
Eschew Materials
Arcane Schooling
Strong Soul
Extra Spell
Enhance Familar: Poison
Charlatan
Skill Prodigy
Skill Focus
Bloodline of Fire
Thunder Twin
Alertness
Pain Touch

What's hilarious is that, for example, psionic fist, gives you the ability to reduce your unarmed damage by burning power points.  :??? How the hell would that ever be a good idea. They even went out of their way to slightly alter the effect, so your fist now can carry the charge for a few rounds and stuff. WHY!?

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 01:26:49 PM »
I think it's that whenever you pay power points your unarmed damage is reduced?  Or maybe it's a choice thing.  I dunno, that's pretty hilarious.

EDIT: I think Pyro is soooo funny.  "You suck at setting things on fire."
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 01:33:24 PM »
Setting fire to things is something i'd rather be good at.

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2012, 01:34:58 PM »
How do you want to handle things like Extra Spell (since I'm a wizard) and Skill Focus?  Also, is the order I get them the order you rolled them, or do I take them in the order I choose?
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2012, 01:45:18 PM »
You take them in the listed order. Skill focus is going to be on Perform, which i just rolled a die for. As for extra spell, I don't know why i didn't reroll that. Here you go. Improved Initiative. Hey, a feat that may actually impact your performance!

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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2012, 01:46:59 PM »
Well, Extra Spell could have applied to a KotW spell, but either way.

Now I get a -6 to Initiative!  Ouch... luckily my equipment will help make up for that.  Also, I can swap Scribe Scroll for Improved Init to cancel it out.

EDIT: Should I choose Skill Prodigy, or do you want to roll it?
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Re: Madness? This! Is! MINMAX!(Or the ministry of ungentlemanly DnD)
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2012, 01:49:03 PM »
Just choose yourself.