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Hags, Hag Eyes, Scrying, and Nightmare: Will Save Modifier?
« on: August 16, 2012, 12:23:53 AM »
My PC's were tracked down by a pack of Shadow Mastiffs, and though they dealt with the pack easily, they found on one of them a small magical gem.  This was a Hag Eye, that a Marzanna Hag (frostburn) was using to watch the mastiff's hunt.
The PC's cast identify on the hag eye and learned what it was, then hid it in a bag.  The next morning they then scryed the owner of the eye, and witnessed the hag sleeping.

The hag got to look at the face of the party wizard for an hour while he was identifying the hag eye.  Suppose the hag now wanted to use her Nightmare SLA on the party wizard; what modifiers will occur to the Will save?

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nightmare.htm

Would it be the equivalent of Secondhand knowledge of the target?

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Re: Hags, Hag Eyes, Scrying, and Nightmare: Will Save Modifier?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 01:46:01 AM »
That seems like the most likely modifier. She hasn't met them, but heard of them/seen them are about the same. If she was smart, she would have captured his likeness via a drawing or something to reduce the modifier a bit. :)
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Re: Hags, Hag Eyes, Scrying, and Nightmare: Will Save Modifier?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 02:09:20 PM »
It's a possibility, but she's not good at drawing, and she doesn't have a magical means of pulling that off.  :p

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Re: Hags, Hag Eyes, Scrying, and Nightmare: Will Save Modifier?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 04:50:51 PM »
She's got a +2 Int bonus, so taking 10 gives her a 12. That's gotta be good enough for 'likeness' for a spell effect. Especially when you consider a rough sketch of a person would probably qualify as a very simple or typical item (DC 5 or 10). Plus she has an hour to do it, so you could argue she can take 20, since a sketch can't take more than 1 minute. ;)
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Re: Hags, Hag Eyes, Scrying, and Nightmare: Will Save Modifier?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 05:04:27 PM »
So true.  Excellent logic.   :clap
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