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Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« on: April 26, 2012, 07:13:54 PM »
Is a feat worth a spell? Is a spell worth a feat? Let's find out. Today's feature is built on the Fighter chassis, only instead of getting bonus feats, it gets persistent spells.
Basically, I was wondering if a Fighter could be a viable class is each feat was the equivalent of a good spell. The simplest way to do that is to just convert each feat into a spell.
I think I just made a warlock.

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Table: The Fighter

        Base Attack      Fort   Ref    Will
Level   Bonus            Save   Save   Save   Special
1st     +1                +2    +0     +0     Eternal Spell (1st)
2nd     +2                +3    +0     +0     Eternal Spell (1st)
3rd     +3                +3    +1     +1
4th     +4                +4    +1     +1     Eternal Spell (2nd)
5th     +5                +4    +1     +1
6th     +6/+1             +5    +2     +2     Eternal Spell (3rd)
7th     +7/+2             +5    +2     +2
8th     +8/+3             +6    +2     +2     Eternal Spell (4th)
9th     +9/+4             +6    +3     +3
10th    +10/+5            +7    +3     +3     Eternal Spell (5th)
11th    +11/+6/+1         +7    +3     +3
12th    +12/+7/+2         +8    +4     +4     Eternal Spell (6th)
13th    +13/+8/+3         +8    +4     +4
14th    +14/+9/+4         +9    +4     +4     Eternal Spell (7th)
15th    +15/+10/+5        +9    +5     +5
16th    +16/+11/+6/+1    +10    +5     +5     Eternal Spell (8th)
17th    +17/+12/+7/+2    +10    +5     +5
18th    +18/+13/+8/+3    +11    +6     +6     Eternal Spell (9th)
19th    +19/+14/+9/+4    +11    +6     +6
20th    +20/+15/+10/+5   +12    +6     +6     Eternal Spell (9th)


Alignment: Any.
Hit Die: d10
Class Skills: The fighter’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Craft (Int), Handle Animal (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Ride (Dex), Spellcraft (Int), and Swim (Str).
Skill Points at 1st Level: (2 + Int modifier) ×4
Skill Points at Each Additional Level: 2 + Int modifier

Class Features
All of the following are class features of the fighter.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 08:09:03 PM »
Glad to see you repost this, I have to say.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 09:21:13 PM »
I have to say that this is....interesting.....to say the least.  I know at level 1 there's actually a direct comparison possible: Bless to Weapon Focus.  WF grants a +1 on attack.  Bless with this class grants a +1 attack and saving throws against fear.  Interesting thought exercise.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 08:52:06 PM »
So... can you please make a feat that allows them to treat one Eternal Spell as if they are actually casting it?

Because using something like this to access Swiftblade would be lovely.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »
It's a spell-like ability, so I think it counts. There are rules about that in Complete Arcane (I think in the context of Warlock invocations, though). So Swiftblade (up to level 9; the 10th level ability depends on the actual spell slot used, which there isn't) is a go.

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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 01:15:53 PM »
Kinda curious about one thing here: Why the limit to just the cleric list?

Spell-likes normally have no ASF, warlock just applied it as a hack, so I can't see why arcane lists are out of bounds.  Also I don't see concentration on your adjusted skill list, does that mean fighters are SRD monsters?

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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 01:50:13 PM »
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In addition, the maximum spell level that can be selected is equal to one half the character's effective fighter level, minimum 1, maximum 9, or the fighter's Wisdom score minus 10, whichever is less

so in addition to needing a high strength for hit / damage and carrying capacity

a high con for hit point and fort saves

a high dex for ac and ranged attacks / reflex saves

a high cha for social interactions / leadership

now you also need a high wis to get your new class features working?
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 01:51:29 PM »
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In addition, the maximum spell level that can be selected is equal to one half the character's effective fighter level, minimum 1, maximum 9, or the fighter's Wisdom score minus 10, whichever is less

so in addition to needing a high strength for hit / damage and carrying capacity

a high con for hit point and fort saves

a high dex for ac and ranged attacks / reflex saves

a high cha for social interactions / leadership

now you also need a high wis to get your new class features working?
Meh. So does a cleric.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 01:54:46 PM »
indeed, but cleric gets a full ranges of spells not just a few dangling carrots.
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 02:12:35 PM »
Social interactions?  Are you daft?  This! Is! Fighter!
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Re: Eternal Spell Fighter, or, I think I made a Warlock
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 02:36:51 PM »
lil bit  :P
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