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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2013, 05:05:56 PM »
Playing an outsider bipedal tiger would be rather awkward. :P

Dread Necromancer... hmm, I'm really not sure.

Combining  these three would certainly be another option, because I've been itching to do that since they were all up.



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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2013, 05:08:16 PM »
Sentient undead typically pay homage to the undead god Dracula.

Think Castlevania Dracula as opposed to Bram Stoker's, with a dash of "Satan is my bitch" mixed in.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2013, 05:09:34 PM »
Homage in a Cleric sort of way or Homage in a "he frequently shows up and tells me what to do" sort of way?

And a chaos cultist could totally be innocent. He's an ardent anarchist and believer in the healing power of really heavy rock (or really heavy rocks depending on the situation.)

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2013, 05:11:01 PM »
Bit of both, actually.

Think of it like this: if you're not a vampire who fucks other vampires over, you might be okay in his book.

As an aside, he hunts faeries, particularly those who sustain themselves on blood.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2013, 05:12:38 PM »
Castlevania Dracula? This just gets better and better.

I know my cue to get the hell out of dodge if I do that, though.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2013, 05:16:35 PM »
This Druid ACF comes with a free Blue Oyster Cult reference (umlaut sold separately.)
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
Expressing interest. Starting level?

EDIT: Chaos Cultist with potential metal stylings?

I forgot to address this earlier. I'm thinking level 7; the game isn't broken yet, but you're not at the point where initiative means life or death anymore.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2013, 05:21:19 PM »
Additionally, as a part of the houserules, everybody has an additional magic item slot called the Forehead Jewel.

Anyone ever read Ga-Rei in here?
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2013, 05:22:24 PM »
Nah. Considered reading/watching Ga-Rei Zero at some point, though.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2013, 05:32:30 PM »
Well, image, thousand words, and all that.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2013, 05:36:46 PM »
Well, that's a remarkably self-explanatory slot name. :P

... now I need to start working out what level a Vampire/ER can get into LL. Hmm... I think it's 9th. Possibly. I hate trying to work out initiator level.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2013, 06:05:05 PM »
P-P-P-Powerbard???





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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2013, 06:14:22 PM »
Oh yeah, that reminds me. Particularly important houserule: there is no such thing as an immunity. That goes for players AND monsters. I just find they sap a LOT of the fun out of the game. Creatures that are normally "immune" to anything instead get a great deal of resistance to it. Example:

A creature that is immune to fire gets to cut any fire damage in half (before saves that would limit its damage) and then get to apply an amount of energy resistance that is equal to their HD + 5. Therefore, killing a Medium fire elemental with a fireball is pretty hard to do, but if you meteor swarm it the thing dies just the same. Searing spell would remove the 1/2 damage thing, but not the energy resistance (if all it has is fire resistance, that gets cut in half instead). This "post-resistance" increases to HD +10 at 10 HD, HD +15 at 15 HD and HD+20 at 20 HD.

Things that are normally immune to fear instead get a bonus to their saves equal to +1/2 their HD, and the duration of said fear is halved, rounded up (minimum of 1). Mindless critters act as if afraid though they aren't, really. Same thing pretty much goes for any status effect, as well as death effects. In the event of an effect with no clear duration, i.e "until the target rests again", the standard duration is equal to the CL of the spell or the HD of the originating creature, whichever is lower, in hours.

Creatures normally immune to critical hits halve the extra damage from the crit itself (roll separately). Same goes for immunity to precision damage.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2013, 06:19:39 PM »
Please leave mindless things immune to direct mind affecting stuff; that would be a complete nightmare to make sense of. Please. XD

... actually, what happens to the rest of the undead immunities? Immunity to ability drain, fortitude saves that don't affect objects, etc.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2013, 06:40:13 PM »
You make said saves at a large bonus, and in the case of ability drain, you only take half of it, rounded down, before saves (if any).

For the record, I'm going to change most "mindless" creatures to "lacking sense of self" instead. Wanna charm that Dread Necro's pet skeleton? Be my guest. Same goes if you decide to charm a gelatinous cube - it won't nom on you, but since it can't communicate with you, it WILL go on to nom anything that's not you. Domination would pretty much go the way of a puppet master.

Feel free to present any other examples. Mindrape? You punch a hole through a book full of blank pages.

EDIT: Also, fuck null ability scores. Undead get Constitution scores too, based on size. There.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2013, 06:41:34 PM »
... :|

Well, now I need a new idea that has absolutely nothing to do with undead, because I find all of that silly.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2013, 06:42:00 PM »
Powerbard?
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2013, 06:49:13 PM »
Powerbard is fine.

Just don't play Thriller.

And sorry RD, that's just how I roll. I find the whole idea of "undead get a grab-bag of immunities hurr durr" silly. Hell, the earliest you can actually play an undead by "vanilla" D&D is third level as a necropolitan or by having your DM say "fuck you" and making you be bitten by a vampire and hoping the party paladin or cleric doesn't kill you (and let's not mention the LA on that thing).

I might reconsider on the idea of mindless creatures, but no. Immunities are bad.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2013, 06:52:30 PM »
And I find the idea of playing anything to do with undead, given the sheer volume of things extant just to kill them, in addition to the restrictions imposed by the precise type of undead, to be pointless when you've removed half of the things that separate them from living creatures.

Oh, and giving them a constitution score means giving them something that they shouldn't be able to have, based on the description of constitution.

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Any living creature has at least 1 point of Constitution. A creature with no Constitution has no body or no metabolism. It is immune to any effect that requires a Fortitude save unless the effect works on objects or is harmless. The creature is also immune to ability damage, ability drain, and energy drain, and automatically fails Constitution checks. A creature with no Constitution cannot tire and thus can run indefinitely without tiring (unless the creature’s description says it cannot run)

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2013, 06:59:19 PM »
Vampires are bound to be revised in this setting at any rate, including but not the least of which alterations refers to the Forehead Jewel slot.

But I won't tell you what to play. There's a huge number of abominations and monsters you can draw from and I'm sure most people here would be happy to point you to the myriad ways they can be mechanically built; hopefully at least one of them will strike your fancy.

EDIT: Also, splitting hairs and all, but giving undead a Con score is just an easier way of saying "I'm giving them extra HP and a bonus to Fort saves based on their size".
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