Other Half OOC

[Raineh Daze]

Have we just got the awkward problem where the character with the worst will saves has to make lots of will saves?

[phaedrusxy]

lol, yes 

[oslecamo]

So, anybody has any buff to help Dyson get through the Refusal?

Or any party member with high Will willing to drag the inevitable closer?

[VennDygrem]

I don't really have any sort of buffs (aside from Haste), but I've got a decent will save. Let's see what happens...

If I drag Dyson over, am I making all the same saves?

[oslecamo]

Yes.

[Raineh Daze]

I do have a maneuver that ignores hardness if we just want to blow the door off (and treat it as an evil nonhumanoid... which means more damage). xD

[Wyvernhand]

Vist does not have any extraordinary senses other than See Invisibility.

This is...not good.  I probably shouldn't have banned Abjuration at this high level.

[Raineh Daze]

Vist does not have any extraordinary senses other than See Invisibility.

This is...not good.  I probably shouldn't have banned Abjuration at this high level.

I just have good spot/listen scores. Could be worse.

[VennDygrem]

Iskandar has Blindsense out to 30 ft., but that's about it.

[Raineh Daze]

Our greatest defence against somewhat-distant hidden threats is my skill checks.

That's alarming.

Anyway, are we blowing up the door or not?

[phaedrusxy]

We already did... But only for a few rounds. Waiting to see if Dyson sees anything before moving in.

[phaedrusxy]

Well... what should we do here peeps? It will surely detect us as soon as we go in, and with most of the party being blinded, and certainly more devils around (as if a Pit Fiend wasn't enough), I don't like our odds...

[Raineh Daze]

Hm, we're here to grab an item, right? I don't fancy my chances of lasting, but I can give myself +15AC/save on three checks. If we were a few levels higher, blocking something that way would give me invulnerability to my turn, but... yeah. Though I don't have any real way of getting out.

[Wyvernhand]

If we can stay togetherish, Dyson and I can teleport us out when we get the Skull.  We don't even have to kill the Pit Fiend, just distract it.

Now, where is the Skull?

[oslecamo]

Now, where is the Skull?

Dyson can't see it yet. The chamber goes for more than 60 feet.

[phaedrusxy]

Hmm... I would be surprised if this isn't protected by Unhallow with a Dimensional Anchor attached to it... blocking teleportation out... It also probably has Forbiddance and/or something else to block teleporting into it as well...

So I'd at least plan on that being in place... meaning we'll likely have to grab the skull and run out, then teleport away...

Dyson has Temporal Acceleration, which is basically like mini-Timestop. So I'm thinking of popping that, and running around to see if I can find it. If I do, then... what? Just grab it and run like hell? I don't think he can pick it up during the TA... so he'd have to wait until it expires...

I could use Temporal Acceleration again after grabbing it, but there's a 1 round "cool down" due to only having one immediate action (it specifically says you return to your turn that you left on)... So even in the best scenario (we run in, don't die, see the skull, and can grab it), he'd need to survive for a round and be able to get back through the hole we made...

I can't think of any better plan at this point, though...

[Raineh Daze]

I'm mostly limited to bullshitting skillchecks that I have no reasonable way to make and avoiding dying. Sure, there's the chance I might be able to OHKO the Pit Fiend with a maneuver if it works properly... but that isn't a solid strategy.

[VennDygrem]

Hmm... I would be surprised if this isn't protected by Unhallow with a Dimensional Anchor attached to it... blocking teleportation out... It also probably has Forbiddance and/or something else to block teleporting into it as well...

So I'd at least plan on that being in place... meaning we'll likely have to grab the skull and run out, then teleport away...

Dyson has Temporal Acceleration, which is basically like mini-Timestop. So I'm thinking of popping that, and running around to see if I can find it. If I do, then... what? Just grab it and run like hell? I don't think he can pick it up during the TA... so he'd have to wait until it expires...

I could use Temporal Acceleration again after grabbing it, but there's a 1 round "cool down" due to only having one immediate action (it specifically says you return to your turn that you left on)... So even in the best scenario (we run in, don't die, see the skull, and can grab it), he'd need to survive for a round and be able to get back through the hole we made...

I can't think of any better plan at this point, though...

According to the SRD entry, "You can affect an unattended object but not an object held, carried, or worn by another creature. You are undetectable by any means while your temporal acceleration lasts."

So, I think if it's sitting around you can grab it. If it's being held or worn, we're SOL.

[Raineh Daze]

If someone is wearing a magical artefact skull thing, at least, I will be severely confused.

[phaedrusxy]

So, I think if it's sitting around you can grab it. If it's being held or worn, we're SOL.

What if it is inside of some super cage, with a zillion traps on it? That's basically what I expect... and a legion of fiends guarding it, not to mention Azmodeus himself sitting there...