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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #80 on: May 12, 2014, 01:51:09 PM »
So long as you don't stick yourself at the top of the heap when your whole race is more of an oddity. That would basically force my character to do what yours asks. Paladin samurai with a social superior present does not have much room for disagreeing. :p
:lmao Now I see the problem! OK, sure. We'll go with the samsaran as basically being so rare, and detached, that they are basically an anomaly even within the society they (typically) come from.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #81 on: May 12, 2014, 02:08:06 PM »
Phew, I tried posting last night but things... got in the way.  Don't look for the bodies, they aren't here anymore.

I'm starting the party in a village called Limen, in Rubicon.  It's a midway point for a lot of marked, and usually the point they choose where they want to go; the land bridge, via boat, or deciding to turn back and flee.  The village has almost no population of its own, its all people in transit or merchants.  Your characters can either be just arriving (on the same or different carts) or already be there.

About Samsaran; while I'm sure they're not unique to any one area, there are probably a fair number in Jingu.  Taphos and Espere probably have a few too.  Don't feel too locked down by location for whatever race there is, there are plenty of exceptions to the rule.  Speaking of Jingu, I've been working on a fluff dump for it (since Raineh is presumably from there) but it keeps getting delayed.  Perhaps I shall finish it tonight while at work.

On Jingu and their caste system, it's mostly true though clearly the text is through Medved's viewpoint.  Its more of a class system, where you are born and farmer and you will probably die a farmer short of unusual things.  And yes, goblins tend by and far to be stuck at the bottom rungs of society for various social and political reasons.  Top rungs are more obscure, so I can't say things like "Samsaran" or "Humans" are on top.  The emperess herself isn't actually samsaran, though the fluff behind her suggests that each new emperess carries the spirit of the last.  You are also correct that there is a large goblin (specifically hobgoblin) population.  For Raineh's samurai, no matter what race you are I'm sure you're well respected.  Or were, given you seem to be ronin now.

Favored class benefits for Vitalist?  Alright, what do you suggest?
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #82 on: May 12, 2014, 02:21:40 PM »
Favored class benefits for Vitalist?  Alright, what do you suggest?
Well... since they're basically modified humans (their children are human, and presumably they are also born from human mothers), how about we just use the human one?

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Human   Add +1/3 power known from the vitalist power list. This power must be at least one level below the highest power level the vitalist can manifest and may not be changed when the vitalist regains his daily power points.

And the crunch for my character is nearly done. Just need to come up with a background, and finish gear, I think. He's basically a creepy psychic healer. I went with an archetype/class option that basically lets him specialize a bit in hurting others to heal himself or his allies, and to move status effects around, and what not. :D
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #83 on: May 12, 2014, 02:34:43 PM »
Well... since they're basically modified humans (their children are human, and presumably they are also born from human mothers), how about we just use the human one?

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And the crunch for my character is nearly done. Just need to come up with a background, and finish gear, I think. He's basically a creepy psychic healer. I went with an archetype/class option that basically lets him specialize a bit in hurting others to heal himself or his allies, and to move status effects around, and what not. :D

I'll try to dedicate what time I have today to making more fluff dumps and getting ready.  Looks like things are going well, we can probably start in a few days if everyone is ready.  Hurrah for excitement!
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #84 on: May 12, 2014, 09:15:36 PM »
I feel like I'm gonna be a grumpy dwarf hangin' around a bunch of weaboos  :rolleyes

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #85 on: May 12, 2014, 09:41:26 PM »
I feel like I'm gonna be a grumpy dwarf hangin' around a bunch of weaboos  :rolleyes
:lol Should be fun. :D (I am not a weaboo IRL, although my wife is Chinese originally. :P )

If no one will have Fast Healing, I think my character should try to Charm a pet with it, for party healing. :D

Edit: So it looks like a (human?) samurai, a tengu swordsage, a dwarf ranger, a human sniper, and my samsaran vitalist? So I'm the only spellcaster?  :eh I think I better pick up some BFC, and make sure we can get free healing somehow, so I'm not "the bandaid"...
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #86 on: May 12, 2014, 10:39:25 PM »
I feel like I'm gonna be a grumpy dwarf hangin' around a bunch of weaboos  :rolleyes
:lol Should be fun. :D (I am not a weaboo IRL, although my wife is Chinese originally. :P )

If no one will have Fast Healing, I think my character should try to Charm a pet with it, for party healing. :D

Edit: So it looks like a (human?) samurai, a tengu swordsage, a dwarf ranger, a human sniper, and my samsaran vitalist? So I'm the only spellcaster?  :eh I think I better pick up some BFC, and make sure we can get free healing somehow, so I'm not "the bandaid"...
Maybe I should go Crusader instead of Swordsage. Of course, I always pick up a Belt of Healing when its available.

It definitely wouldn't hurt my BAB. I'll have to go dig out my ToB and think about it.

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #87 on: May 12, 2014, 10:41:21 PM »
I feel like I'm gonna be a grumpy dwarf hangin' around a bunch of weaboos  :rolleyes

Did somebody say weeaboo!?  Line them up, I have the spanking club!  Wee-a-boo!  Wee-a-boo!

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The royal line has a case of the Vegetas (everyone is named Jingu) though she has a real personal name as well which is used much less.  Odd culture that, clearly Japanese, but more Indian reincarnation shenanigans, and then you have Persian djinn...
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #88 on: May 12, 2014, 10:41:29 PM »
So I'm the only spellcaster?
No, I'm still in, I just haven't had time to do my build yet. I'm going to be a full arcane caster, either a Sorcerer or a Wizard, going into Shadowcraft Mage.

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #89 on: May 12, 2014, 10:43:20 PM »
So I'm the only spellcaster?
No, I'm still in, I just haven't had time to do my build yet. I'm going to be a full arcane caster, either a Sorcerer or a Wizard, going into Shadowcraft Mage.

Good good.  6 players is enough, so FYI I'll probably be closing entries here.  Sorry latecomers!
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #90 on: May 12, 2014, 10:43:47 PM »
Nah, play what you want. I can drain the hit points from enemies and pass them on to partymates with 0 pp expenditures, and use my actual powers for temporary hit points and healing (and buffing) for the party as well. I think we'll be OK.

Edit: Awesome. So we should be just dandy.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #91 on: May 12, 2014, 10:51:25 PM »
Nah, play what you want. I can drain the hit points from enemies and pass them on to partymates with 0 pp expenditures, and use my actual powers for temporary hit points and healing (and buffing) for the party as well. I think we'll be OK.

Edit: Awesome. So we should be just dandy.

It's not a big deal. I was eventually going to take levels in crusader (hypothetical final build would be Monk 2, swordsage 9, crusader 9, with the monk and crusader levels alternating every 2)(not that I have any expectation at all of reaching that far), and switching them isn't a big deal. I was going swordsage first mainly just so that the crusader stances would match up with his levels. I'll have to play with him a bit, to see what I like. There are advantages either way (BaB v. Weapon focus, healing maneuvers v. mobility abilities, and so on).

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #92 on: May 12, 2014, 11:14:35 PM »
Nah nah I'll have spells too next leve---Oh nevermind I killed my faith in god for some run-fast in my future  :D

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #93 on: May 13, 2014, 01:27:44 AM »
Saaaay Frogman, when you're on next what weapon do you suppose you'd be using? *Collecting data to generate eeeeeeeevil, yay!*

Any requests on fluff while I'm at it?  I'll try to get you guys whatever.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #94 on: May 13, 2014, 08:49:44 AM »
A reach polearm of some sort (Combined with Improved Weapon Finesse, it'll be fun)(Don't you love that scene in Hero?) I've been hunting hard for a polearm that has trip & disarm, but it doesn't seem to exist. I may end up using the Tengu's alternate feature to pick up proficiency in Dwarven Warpikes or Hooked lances, but I'm still undecided. Since we're level three, I can manage Improved Weapon Finesse and Agile Manuevers, which means I don't have to be locked into disarming and tripping. I may take tripping and overrun instead.

Which reminds me, Sol, how would you rule the interaction between the flurry of Manuevers and the Overrun maneuver?

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Its the interaction between 'regardless of whether its a standard action or attack action' and 'standard action, taken during your move' that has me thinking this is a DM decision point. I've never actually considered it before, and I could go either way, although to be honest, I feel like a maneuver master can't overrun as part of the flurry, as you don't have a move action available, even though you could do the standard action. I could argue the other way, although that argument is largely based on 'Maneuver master is clearly intended to make all these maneuvers as part of his flurry, and overrun is a core maneuver, therefore....'

And, frankly, the added maneuverability (essentially getting to add a move action as part of your full action) would be a godsend to the monk's weaknesses.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #95 on: May 13, 2014, 10:47:58 AM »
So... somewhat inspired by the new uses for the Heal skill for torture in Pathfinder, I've decided that my character's background is as a torturer/healer in the service of the Jengu Empire. :D He of course doesn't see himself as evil. He was only doing his duty, which also included being a "doctor" for citizens as well as torturer for "terrorists" and criminals in order to extract information from them. This also explains why he is so good at reading people (max ranks in Sense Motive + very high wisdom), generally perceptive (high Perception), and knowledge of lots of languages (Linguistics skill + decent Int). It's part of his job.

I put his alignment down as lawful neutral. Even though he definitely has a history of committing evil acts (torture), he has also done equal or more amounts of "good" (being a healer) and also sincerely just sees what he is doing as his duty in service to the "greater good". I'd rather not drift into evil, as to avoid conflicts with the party paladin. Since they're both going to be from the same region, it could make for some interesting interaction, though. :D
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #96 on: May 13, 2014, 10:52:45 AM »
Do not mention the torture to her. :p

Speaking of which, I shall now get started on writing this up.

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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #97 on: May 13, 2014, 11:03:34 AM »
Do not mention the torture to her. :p

Speaking of which, I shall now get started on writing this up.
Of course he'll call himself a "surgeon", and won't speak of "torture"... but might offer to try and extract information from prisoners if it seems like his services might be needed.  :smirk

Edit: Custom skill items OK? I'm thinking of getting a magical item that grants a +1 to Heal. Per the formula, it should only be 100 gold, and would stack with the healer's kit. We'll call it a magical surgeon's kit. :D

Edit2: Added a bunch of alchemical items, plus a homebrewed magic item that I'd used in another game (it's a magic robe kind of like a Heward's Handy Haversack). Let me know if some of that is not acceptable. Link to character.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #98 on: May 13, 2014, 11:11:05 AM »
Oh, right, one profession skill is maxed for free. :O

-Makes it cooking.-

EDIT: I am trying to think of a cheaper way to remove the 'this armour slows you down' thing than Mithral, 'cause I can't afford that yet.* :p

*Would that I could, then my AC would be in the 20's.
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Re: [3.P] Who wants to be cursed and hopeless?
« Reply #99 on: May 13, 2014, 11:43:57 AM »
... I am sad that I have to refluff weapons (Rapier and Short Sword) rather than just use the actual stats given for the katana and wakizashi. Because critical modifiers. I am also amused that the first one isn't finessable. Does this thing look like you're going to be using STR with it? :lmao