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Title: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 08, 2017, 03:34:54 AM
So 5 years ago I started a Nintendo-based campaign (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?board=94.0) (two actually but the second died kinda fast). As you can see nobody has posted anything in some 10 months so this one's kinda dead at the moment.

However recently with the launch of the Switch and playing Zelda Breath of the Wild, I would really enjoy re-visiting this concept.
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Or who knows maybe the last remaining players get renewed interest, we get fresh replacements now that we actually have players able to register again, and continue the previous game.

So, anyone interested? Old players also feel free to chime in what went wrong/right from their perspective to help this go better.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 08, 2017, 03:41:31 AM
I mean I pushed for the revival last time.

Gosh dang it Anomander/Nanshork/DrEmporer  :shakefist


Whether you want to continue or start over with that new setting of BotW prequel I'd be so hella into it. I've been kinda dabbling in BotW too recently~
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 08, 2017, 02:23:20 PM
I wanted to join in as a Link copy but never got an intro and then things died.  :(
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 08, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
I'm interested.
*Gets shot*
I understand.

But seriously though this gives me a chance to either try something else out (cause there's other things I wanna do character wise) or even finally put that fairypixie vampire to work.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 08, 2017, 03:59:21 PM
I can't speak for anyone else as to why things died, but Jeremy just didn't work for me.  Pokemaster wasn't bad but I honestly felt like he was too much work for me as well as you (Os). 

I forgot how much I don't like playing spellcasters when I turned him into a buffer to try and retain his personality.  Honestly the game was great for awhile.  I think starting over new would be better than rebooting (again).  I'd be up for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 08, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
Fair enough. A start over may be good then.

I know I had no idea what to do with my deku if it ever lvled was just screwing around -_-'
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 08, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
I'm gonna be honest, I'm interested, but my ideas thus far are "Minish Warlock" and "Goron Bard." Just need to figure out the appropriate race for each.  :???
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Rekmond on December 08, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Hm...interesting.

Would prospective characters need to be based on existing Zelda themes, or would stuff from Nintendo's toybox that could fit in the setting also be welcomed?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 08, 2017, 08:36:50 PM
Nice, quite a bit of interest so far.

Fresh start seems to be the most popular option so I'll refine the plans for that.

I was thinking starting lv 6, PCs can start strong but not yet reality-warping. Or lv4/2 if players want to keep things more simple and start more on the underdog side.

I wanted to join in as a Link copy but never got an intro and then things died.  :(

Ow, sorry about that, you posted your chracter but somehow I got the impression you weren't ready yet so never made an intro scene. :blush

Well you could finally get to use your Link copy this time.

I'm interested.
*Gets shot*
I understand.

But seriously though this gives me a chance to either try something else out (cause there's other things I wanna do character wise) or even finally put that fairypixie vampire to work.
Fairies are common enough in Zelda, vampires not so much in my memory, but assorted undeads are common too guess we could make it work as some uniquish corruption/curse (unless you remember a Nintendo franchise that has vampires).

I'm gonna be honest, I'm interested, but my ideas thus far are "Minish Warlock" and "Goron Bard." Just need to figure out the appropriate race for each.  :???

Prime32 made some nice Goron race stats (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=3349.msg42739#msg42739) here (plus Zora and Deku and Kokiri), all of which are approved (although I would be fine with refluffing something else). For Minish, may I suggest my inchling (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=11209.msg293403#msg293403)?

Hm...interesting.

Would prospective characters need to be based on existing Zelda themes, or would stuff from Nintendo's toybox that could fit in the setting also be welcomed?
Pretty much anything from Nintendo ok a la super smash brothers. The original party had a metroid space pirate and not-Kirby and a pokemon trainer in pseudo-Zelda setting. You can always claim "portals/my ship crashed".
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 08, 2017, 09:50:55 PM
Sounds interesting. I had nothing to do with the original, of course.

I also have no character concept right now. I'll have to think about it. Maybe some obscure race from zelda somewhere?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Rekmond on December 08, 2017, 10:07:15 PM
I might see about something like that Space Pirate then. A Samus-type either using the Metroid Incarnum (never actually used it) or maybe your Moon Vanguard assuming it has been kept up to date with your SRW updates.

Another option might be that 'caster' out of the Tome of Radiance....has been about a year since I got to mess with that. And there's all kind of easy fluff points for a light using mage.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Falkonus on December 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
I'd be interested in joining if there's room.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 09, 2017, 01:09:42 AM
Oh gosh the Tome of Radiance I've been wanting to use that for the longest time.

Oh my gosh maybe I'll make a cross between a Deku Scrub and Vash the Stampede preaching Love & Peace to everything and everyone and blasting sparkles and rainbows and bubbles~!!
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 09, 2017, 01:29:24 AM
I'm always willing to throw my vote behind someone using the Metroid as Incarnum system (although technically you want Power of Cybernetics, it's basically MaI 2.0) because it's my favorite Incarnum overhaul.

I think I would maybe be a Morphling? Offhand it feels like the most Nintendo thing on the list of stuff I want to play but haven't from my signature.

Os, Nintendo has vampires from Castlevania (more than just Dracula although not extensively so as far as I'm aware).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 09, 2017, 02:05:04 AM
When people say Tome of Radiance they mean this (http://tome-of-radiance.wikia.com/wiki/Tome_of_Radiance_Wiki), right?

Sounds interesting. I had nothing to do with the original, of course.

I also have no character concept right now. I'll have to think about it. Maybe some obscure race from zelda somewhere?
Oocca? (http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Oocca) (please don't).

I might see about something like that Space Pirate then. A Samus-type either using the Metroid Incarnum (never actually used it) or maybe your Moon Vanguard assuming it has been kept up to date with your SRW updates.
Well the Moon Vanguard directly links to the SRW rules so yes up to date.

I'd be interested in joining if there's room.

This isn't first come, first served. I'll eventually set a deadline and then the best finished sheets present will make the party.

I'm always willing to throw my vote behind someone using the Metroid as Incarnum system (although technically you want Power of Cybernetics, it's basically MaI 2.0) because it's my favorite Incarnum overhaul.

I think I would maybe be a Morphling? Offhand it feels like the most Nintendo thing on the list of stuff I want to play but haven't from my signature.
I trust that too.

Os, Nintendo has vampires from Castlevania (more than just Dracula although not extensively so as far as I'm aware).
Castlevania's not a Nintendo 1st party or exclusive, been in plenty of other consoles (in my heart it will always be a Megadrive title). Didn't even show up in a SSB game.  :shakefist
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 09, 2017, 02:15:23 AM
I didn't know there was a wiki I just have the GitP thread bookmarked

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?258654-Tome-of-Radiance-Mastering-the-Power-of-Love-and-Justice
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Rekmond on December 09, 2017, 02:23:46 AM
When people say Tome of Radiance they mean this (http://tome-of-radiance.wikia.com/wiki/Tome_of_Radiance_Wiki), right?

yeah, that's it. Fun system, and with my only other instance of it having had less than a chapter of screentime...it's on my list of things to use more. Same with the Moon Vanguard really. Something I was able to start playing, got some enjoyment from it, and then the game died abruptly. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 09, 2017, 05:23:51 AM
Currently I am thinking of doing some kind of knight/melee type charecter. Using this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?334362-The-Fighter-Revitalized), probably. And Wild Cohort. And some kind of interesting Demi-human or Bloodline. Maybe.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 09, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
Still unsure what I want to play, but seeing most my other ideas are being somewhat touched on, and this needs looking at, how about this?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?362608
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 09, 2017, 12:32:33 PM
I was thinking starting lv 6, PCs can start strong but not yet reality-warping. Or lv4/2 if players want to keep things more simple and start more on the underdog side.
I'm fine with 6, it's still on the underdog side :p
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 09, 2017, 01:16:18 PM
Well, Inchling Warlock it is. Anyone know of any homebrew invocations that are good for the small?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 09, 2017, 05:04:05 PM
Okay Os, since you're going to pick and choose players I don't feel obligated to fill a role for once.

I have some requests for approval.  If there are any you especially would/wouldn't want me to play just say so.

Morphling (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=2149) with the Warforged sub levels (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=2594.msg42640#msg42640). 

Something something Ice Beast (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17395.0).

Grunt (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=4906).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 09, 2017, 07:12:46 PM
Currently I am thinking of doing some kind of knight/melee type charecter. Using this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?334362-The-Fighter-Revitalized), probably. And Wild Cohort. And some kind of interesting Demi-human or Bloodline. Maybe.

Another campaign, another fighter fix. Seems okish, but I'll ban the feat prerequisite ignoring thingy since it's too easy to cheese out like taking 9th level maneuvers right away.

Still unsure what I want to play, but seeing most my other ideas are being somewhat touched on, and this needs looking at, how about this?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?362608
Apologies but no because too wall of texty and never had seen it before. Plus this is supposed to be a Nintendo campaign, not Fate/Moon campaign. :P

I was thinking starting lv 6, PCs can start strong but not yet reality-warping. Or lv4/2 if players want to keep things more simple and start more on the underdog side.
I'm fine with 6, it's still on the underdog side :p
Noted. Since nobody else comments on that, guess lv6 it will be.

Okay Os, since you're going to pick and choose players I don't feel obligated to fill a role for once.

I have some requests for approval.  If there are any you especially would/wouldn't want me to play just say so.

Morphling (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=2149) with the Warforged sub levels (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=2594.msg42640#msg42640). 

Something something Ice Beast (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17395.0).

Grunt (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=4906).

Would definitely love to see an Ice Beast in play.
Warforged Morphling also seems like it could be nice as something megamanish.
Grunt is ok, just seems like the most bland of options.

Well, Inchling Warlock it is. Anyone know of any homebrew invocations that are good for the small?

Arguably pretty much all of them, in particular blasting ones as you get the to-hit benefits with no damage penalty.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 09, 2017, 07:45:30 PM
Cool! I was planning on swapping out the prequisite ignoring thing for the Armsmaster ACF, becuase I couldn't be bothered figuring out how to abuse the former.

Can I take Strat's Combat Focus (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=13315.msg330136#msg330136) Feats as Fighter Bonus Feats?

And I'm happy with level 6.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 09, 2017, 08:09:20 PM
About as much reading as Tome of Radiance, methinks.

Speaking of which that leaves me with my idea to play a Champion.
Or perhaps a PoC class, or Hylian Warrior if there's not too many,

Then there's that Sentai class, but I don't think it'll fit well.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 09, 2017, 08:35:47 PM
I've decided that Morphling changes so much that I'd have to make a new character sheet, and I JUST MADE A CHARACTER SHEET LAST MONTH.  So I'm not motivated to make a simplified sheet to track characters who change all the time.

If you're excited about Ice Beast then Ice Beast it is.  I don't think I've ever actually played any of my homebrew, I should do that.

So I'll go something 1/ Ice Beast 5.  That gets me Ice Mastery.

In the Nintendo universe(s), what's the most likely creation scenario for me?  That should help me figure out what monster class gets my first level.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 09, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
I've decided that Morphling changes so much that I'd have to make a new character sheet, and I JUST MADE A CHARACTER SHEET LAST MONTH.  So I'm not motivated to make a simplified sheet to track characters who change all the time.

If you're excited about Ice Beast then Ice Beast it is.  I don't think I've ever actually played any of my homebrew, I should do that.

So I'll go something 1/ Ice Beast 5.  That gets me Ice Mastery.

In the Nintendo universe(s), what's the most likely creation scenario for me?  That should help me figure out what monster class gets my first level.

Retired Miniboss!

(not really a creation story... but still)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 09, 2017, 08:49:14 PM
I've decided that Morphling changes so much that I'd have to make a new character sheet, and I JUST MADE A CHARACTER SHEET LAST MONTH.  So I'm not motivated to make a simplified sheet to track characters who change all the time.

If you're excited about Ice Beast then Ice Beast it is.  I don't think I've ever actually played any of my homebrew, I should do that.

So I'll go something 1/ Ice Beast 5.  That gets me Ice Mastery.

In the Nintendo universe(s), what's the most likely creation scenario for me?  That should help me figure out what monster class gets my first level.

Retired Miniboss!

(not really a creation story... but still)

 :lmao
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Jackinthegreen on December 09, 2017, 09:11:05 PM
Chiming in since you asked for what went wrong from the perspective of previous players:  In my case with the second game, I felt both overwhelmed by my options with the Power of Cybernetics stuff as well as didn't feel like my character's actions made enough of a difference at that point so I just shut down and stopped doing anything...  If instead I had done something much more limited in scope then I would have been fine.  So I know for sure if I have to choose between a bunch of options for the day I'll just stall due to decision paralysis.

Not coming in to show my interest since I know I'm not at a point I can do a PBP right now.  Just saying what I eventually figured out happened on my end and maybe that's useful for someone else.  Having both too many options and the feeling of "too much time to respond" can just lead to not responding.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 09, 2017, 09:12:31 PM
Oh damn, I got another idea which should have been obvious. I could play an Adept from Golden Sun! I mean I just started playing it again. No idea how to do it, reflavored psionic class?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Rekmond on December 09, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
Oh damn, I got another idea which should have been obvious. I could play an Adept from Golden Sun! I mean I just started playing it again. No idea how to do it, reflavored psionic class?

Adepts were largely focused. Could run the range from Caster to Gish, and their Psynergy were rather direct. A psionic class would likely work just as well as a normal caster.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 09, 2017, 10:49:06 PM
Cool! I was planning on swapping out the prequisite ignoring thing for the Armsmaster ACF, becuase I couldn't be bothered figuring out how to abuse the former.

Can I take Strat's Combat Focus (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=13315.msg330136#msg330136) Feats as Fighter Bonus Feats?

And I'm happy with level 6.
Ok to ACF and Combat Focus.

I've decided that Morphling changes so much that I'd have to make a new character sheet, and I JUST MADE A CHARACTER SHEET LAST MONTH.  So I'm not motivated to make a simplified sheet to track characters who change all the time.

If you're excited about Ice Beast then Ice Beast it is.  I don't think I've ever actually played any of my homebrew, I should do that.

So I'll go something 1/ Ice Beast 5.  That gets me Ice Mastery.

In the Nintendo universe(s), what's the most likely creation scenario for me? That should help me figure out what monster class gets my first level.

First thing that comes to mind for "Nintendo Ice Beast" is Rundas (https://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Rundas) from Metroid, something reincarnation/rebuilt after being blown up by Samus. Spirit lingered on and made himself a new body of ice?

Alola Sandshrew and Sandslash are Ice/Metal so seem like they would fit too.

Not coming in to show my interest since I know I'm not at a point I can do a PBP right now.  Just saying what I eventually figured out happened on my end and maybe that's useful for someone else.  Having both too many options and the feeling of "too much time to respond" can just lead to not responding.
Thank you! :)

I had a slight feeling something like that had happenned, one of the reasons I'm avoiding gestalt this time around.

Oh damn, I got another idea which should have been obvious. I could play an Adept from Golden Sun! I mean I just started playing it again. No idea how to do it, reflavored psionic class?
Ah, Golden Sun that brings back some great memories. For years I've toyed with homebrewing djinnies and the fancy weapons that would unleash uber attacks in a crit, but never got down to that. Also never had the chance to try out the DS sequel.

Ahem, lots of caster/psionics could work with some reflavoring, depending on how gishy you want to go.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 09, 2017, 11:36:46 PM
Right... gonna do Mythweavers sheet to keep stuff organized while I build. I'll get started tomorrow after work.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 10, 2017, 12:04:25 AM
I doubt I'll get a full build done, but seeing this has me curious if I could make a passable, playable pikachu by combining awakened rat (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=16184.msg284076#msg284076) with lightning elemental (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=7626.0)...

I'd have to take monster blooded/monster hybrid, and choose to keep the animal type instead of gaining the elemental type, but it looks like it would be close... I'd have to just ignore the lightning elemental's growth ability since it's different then the normal ones which can be traded for a stat bonus.

Now I need to see what this thing looks like... :)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 10, 2017, 01:46:05 AM
I'm going to preface this by saying it's all Archon's fault.

I'm totally an unemployed dungeon miniboss. 

Astral Stalker (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=535.0) 1/ Ice Beast  (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17395.0)5

And I only had to go through every monster class there was.   :lmao


Os, I posted some notes in Ice Beast.  Let me know your feedback before I actually make changes (don't worry, it's a bunch of nerfs and a grammar change).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 10, 2017, 02:27:16 AM
Oh wow.

In the Planar Handbook there is a mount called a "Ur'Epona". Described as Descendants of the legendary horse Epona, they are basically regular horses with int 6 and plane shift 1/day.

Can I have one? (as my wild cohort - I'd be happy to lose the plane shift or something. Maybe even take effective level -2 or something for the better attributes).

(and also, yay miniboss! :) . You found a good class for it, too).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 10, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
Oh, how about Prime 32's Chozo Warrior?

http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=29.0
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 10, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Obviously you've got enough players as it is--

But from checking the Gaiden chapter (and god I don't know why I stopped posting)--how on Earth did a tentacled monstrosity fit into things WITHIN the world? Glitch in the system? :lmao
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Jackinthegreen on December 10, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
Not coming in to show my interest since I know I'm not at a point I can do a PBP right now.  Just saying what I eventually figured out happened on my end and maybe that's useful for someone else.  Having both too many options and the feeling of "too much time to respond" can just lead to not responding.
Thank you! :)

I had a slight feeling something like that had happenned, one of the reasons I'm avoiding gestalt this time around.

It wasn't even gestalt for the Nintendo stuff, I just plain suck at making executive decisions for daily character abilities like spells, soulmelds, and so on.  Even before then I knew I'd never play a prepared caster again, but now I also know just anything that chooses only a few daily things from a decently-sized pool is going to screw me up.  Come to think of it, I should probably try to practice on my own or with a friend in person to work on that...
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 10, 2017, 06:54:57 PM
WIP because everyone in the house is screaming.

Saursari

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 10, 2017, 07:57:53 PM
Not coming in to show my interest since I know I'm not at a point I can do a PBP right now.  Just saying what I eventually figured out happened on my end and maybe that's useful for someone else.  Having both too many options and the feeling of "too much time to respond" can just lead to not responding.
Thank you! :)

I had a slight feeling something like that had happenned, one of the reasons I'm avoiding gestalt this time around.

It wasn't even gestalt for the Nintendo stuff, I just plain suck at making executive decisions for daily character abilities like spells, soulmelds, and so on.  Even before then I knew I'd never play a prepared caster again, but now I also know just anything that chooses only a few daily things from a decently-sized pool is going to screw me up.  Come to think of it, I should probably try to practice on my own or with a friend in person to work on that...

For things like that I just have a default setup and only change it if there's a situation that I'm actively prepping for (like underwater combat or something else unusual).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 10, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
Mostly done. Even more done.
Completely done!

Sir Corran

(click to show/hide)

Animal Companion
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 10, 2017, 10:54:12 PM
Was Tome of Radiance actually okay'd tho?

Nevermind I've been going over it for like 2 hours and I'm just all I can't deal with this  :???

Edit: I honestly can't think of a better character to play in a LoZ/Nintendo game than the Deku Scrub I already made...
So I guess I'm offering up Squeaks (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=181414) for the reboot.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 11, 2017, 03:35:48 AM
I'm going to preface this by saying it's all Archon's fault.

I'm totally an unemployed dungeon miniboss. 
"Will stand in room waiting to fight heroes of legend for food."

Os, I posted some notes in Ice Beast.  Let me know your feedback before I actually make changes (don't worry, it's a bunch of nerfs and a grammar change).
Done.

Oh wow.

In the Planar Handbook there is a mount called a "Ur'Epona". Described as Descendants of the legendary horse Epona, they are basically regular horses with int 6 and plane shift 1/day.

Can I have one? (as my wild cohort - I'd be happy to lose the plane shift or something. Maybe even take effective level -2 or something for the better attributes).
Hmm, let's say no plane shift and -1 effective level.

Oh, how about Prime 32's Chozo Warrior?

http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=29.0
Class seems ok (notice the power beam is not a touch attack, missile needs to hit primary target to knock them away, no to Arcane sight visor). The -4 to Cha is kinda weird considering the source though.
(https://imgur.com/61zUq3V.jpg)
(yeah Samus officcially a lesbian or bi since her first incarnation, gets scantly clad women at her feet without even needing to take off her armor).


Obviously you've got enough players as it is--

But from checking the Gaiden chapter (and god I don't know why I stopped posting)--how on Earth did a tentacled monstrosity fit into things WITHIN the world? Glitch in the system? :lmao
I believe that was precisely your character theme, being Missigno  :P (off-topic, but in Dominions 4 somebody modded a nation whose whole theme is they spawning more and bigger glitches, the stronger of which then turn enemies into glitches, messing up things to the point certain areas start outputting negative values and stuff, good times).

WIP because everyone in the house is screaming.

Saursari

(click to show/hide)
Ahem, please use only the official srdd20 flaws.  :)

Was Tome of Radiance actually okay'd tho?

Nevermind I've been going over it for like 2 hours and I'm just all I can't deal with this  :???

Edit: I honestly can't think of a better character to play in a LoZ/Nintendo game than the Deku Scrub I already made...
So I guess I'm offering up Squeaks (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=181414) for the reboot.
Tome of Radiance is ok yes since I already have some familiarity with it but Squeaks Adventure sounds great.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 11, 2017, 07:14:37 AM
Eh, not sure that the power suit should hinder Intimidate checks though. I'll have the sheet up Tuesday, but I'm doing it on myth-weavers.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 11, 2017, 09:54:57 AM
I'm a construct, I don't need food.   :P

Don't have time to edit Ice Beast now, I'll do it later.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 11, 2017, 10:11:29 AM
Hmm... Horses haven't got much by way of natural attacks (no Primary attacks!)

Can I switch out Run for Shape Soulmeld (Astral Vambraces) and then take Bind(Hands) when it hits 6HD?

Or does anyone else know a good way to gain a primary natural attack for a animal companion who is lacking in this area?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 11, 2017, 12:38:11 PM
Multiattack? Maybe just buy a Graft that grants a Natural Weapon for it?
Like Raking Tentacle, 5k, replaces any limb, deals 1d6 for Large. Make Epona a creature of nightmares.

Alternatively, buy some Gloves of Man and a Greatsword? Too expensive.
I think Grafted Weapon is a Illithid Graft in FF which attaches any manufactured weapon to a limb. Replaces hand
Monk's Belt?  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 11, 2017, 09:27:08 PM

Ahem, please use only the official srdd20 flaws.  :)

Right then, I don't even qualify for Lightweight because of 14 con.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 11, 2017, 09:30:02 PM
Multiattack? Maybe just buy a Graft that grants a Natural Weapon for it?
Like Raking Tentacle, 5k, replaces any limb, deals 1d6 for Large. Make Epona a creature of nightmares.

Alternatively, buy some Gloves of Man and a Greatsword? Too expensive.
I think Grafted Weapon is a Illithid Graft in FF which attaches any manufactured weapon to a limb. Replaces hand
Monk's Belt?  :lol

Grafts are expensive; also I'm not sure a horse has spare limbs to replace with a tentacle.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 11, 2017, 11:16:04 PM
Hmm... Horses haven't got much by way of natural attacks (no Primary attacks!)

Can I switch out Run for Shape Soulmeld (Astral Vambraces) and then take Bind(Hands) when it hits 6HD?

Ok to switching non-racial feats around, it's something I often do with stock monsters myself.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 12, 2017, 12:55:29 AM
Might just be the fact it's after midnight, but I think the crunch is done. (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18287.msg331555#msg331555) Just gotta do equipment.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 12, 2017, 01:32:42 AM
My character might take a bit, I'm revising Ice Beast with Os because it needs it IMO.

And then I might make another character sheet anyway because I started thinking about it.

Time to go to bed half an hour after I should have been asleep and lay there thinking about this stuff for who knows how long.   :banghead
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 13, 2017, 02:41:58 AM
Making a post to compile the characters so far:

Ketaro with Squeaks (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=181414) the sneaky deku.
Clanjos with Saursari (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18287.msg331555#msg331555) the minish warlock.
Archon with Sir Corran (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18287.msg331563#msg331563), not-Link #1.

Nanshork brewing up an unemployed ice miniboss from space.
SorO_Lost will probably be not-Link #0.
YuweaCurtis building up not-Samus.
VennDygrem planning up an electric rat.

That's two melees, two roguish, two ranged, Nanshork's ice elemental can go lots of ways, and zero healers.

Luckily the setting gives me an excuse to be generous with restorative items, since again nobody seems to be bringing anything that can fix the wounded.  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 13, 2017, 02:46:07 AM
Hmph. I was going for a "Hylian Knight" archetype.

My character is much too heavy cavalry to be straight link.

But it's a moot point, mostly.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 13, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
Nanshork was bothering me to make a character, so should it be needed for some inscrutable reason I can delevel Myriam there. :p
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 13, 2017, 07:28:09 AM
I can't think of much video game inspiration that involves healing, but I can think of plenty that involves destruction and stealth!

Blame video games for our violent tendencies!  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 13, 2017, 08:06:06 AM
I was also inspired by owning weird items that allow one to solve puzzles
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 13, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Nanshork was bothering me to make a character, so should it be needed for some inscrutable reason I can delevel Myriam there. :p

Hooray, people listen to me!
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 13, 2017, 11:47:34 AM
SorO_Lost will probably be not-Link #0.
If we stay the same level I'll use the same sheet.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 13, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
Right now I'm thinking it might be better if I go with Awakened Rat Miniature Creature 2/Anchorite 4. The electricity damage of spellshaping won't necessarily scale as quickly as the lightning elemental, but it will offer a lot more versatility. I can reflavor some of the other circles as appropriate powers, like Screeching Roc bringing thunderclaps and such, eternal moment being speed manipulation, etc.

The only problem with Anchorite being that its spellshape attacks are melee only. I might just take the one feat that grants a spellshape attack, so I can retain the ranged versions while also having melee options.

Versatility! :D

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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 16, 2017, 08:26:51 AM
Finally made the last edits to my animal companion.

So, unless someone else can find an issue, I'm done.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 16, 2017, 08:39:39 AM
Some background fluff would be nice. "Hylian guard knight" is kinda barebones. Are you in for the money and power or love your country or admire the royal family or just want an excuse to kill monsters? Were you in the third great Kakariko war and in which side? Did you start as a legitimate noble son or some random kid that worked super hard?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 16, 2017, 08:41:06 AM
Some background fluff would be nice. "Hylian guard knight" is kinda barebones. Are you in for the money and power or love your country or admire the royal family or just want an excuse to kill monsters? Were you in the third great Kakariko war and in which side? Did you start as a legitimate noble son or some random kid that worked super hard?

Sure, I'll get on that.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 16, 2017, 08:49:52 AM
Yea, mostly trying to fluff up my char right now. Right now all got an Azurin that makes armor from his Incarnum...
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 16, 2017, 09:19:09 AM
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Also, what languages would be appropriate for a Hylian aristocrat to know?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 16, 2017, 07:17:21 PM
So hey- as a fine creature, my equipment is proportionally smaller and lighter, right? Can I get a Minish-sized Bag of Holding? Or a small Rod of Ropes with shorter range?

Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 17, 2017, 02:11:31 AM
Nice fluffs going around.

So hey- as a fine creature, my equipment is proportionally smaller and lighter, right? Can I get a Minish-sized Bag of Holding? Or a small Rod of Ropes with shorter range?
Well one of the main penalties of being smaller is being able to carry less stuff. Ok for smaller rod of ropes, let's say less 5 feet speed and (25 feet less max) per size category you're below small.

Rough Fluff draft, let me know what you think.
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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on December 17, 2017, 04:09:02 AM
Squeaks! Hero of the Forest is on the job!
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 17, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Background added; now I need to finalize skills and formulae. Still not 100% on equipment selection either.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 17, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
I'm backing out as I lack actual muse for this character.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 17, 2017, 11:38:56 AM
Are we using the magic weapon/armor enhancement houserule? I noticed when reading through the other game's OOC that it was put in place, apparently. Since I don't wear armor it would only affect my lamen, but I'd have to spend 12000 gp just for a +1 ability on top of standard +1 enhancement. Lamens are expensive, yo.  :o

Probably for a reason, but I felt it was best to ask. If not, I'll make do with just a standard +1 enhancement for now.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 17, 2017, 07:19:25 PM
Yes, but it only applies for actual magic items bought/crafted with gold, not any effect that throws around +1.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 17, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
Noted. Should apply to my lamen (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=1783.msg17894#msg17894) (magic item for spellshape attacks that works like enchanting a magic weapon). Useful.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 17, 2017, 09:17:57 PM
What houserule is this?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 17, 2017, 11:28:25 PM
What houserule is this?

Spending gold for enhancement bonuses sucks. So, let's not.  Instead, you can enchant a masterwork weapon, armor, or shield directly with properties, instead of needing a +1 enhancement bonus first.  Each property grants an enhancement bonus to the item equal to the plus of the property.  For example, a keen flaming longsword functions as +3 (+2 from keen and +1 from flaming), and a ghost ward shield has a +1 enhancement bonus.  The maximum total bonus on equipment is still +10, meaning you can get up to a +10 enhancement bonus. (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=4149.msg57492#msg57492)

But again, does not apply to not-gold effects that greant enhancmenet bonuses.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on December 17, 2017, 11:31:20 PM
What houserule is this?

Spending gold for enhancement bonuses sucks. So, let's not.  Instead, you can enchant a masterwork weapon, armor, or shield directly with properties, instead of needing a +1 enhancement bonus first.  Each property grants an enhancement bonus to the item equal to the plus of the property.  For example, a keen flaming longsword functions as +3 (+2 from keen and +1 from flaming), and a ghost ward shield has a +1 enhancement bonus.  The maximum total bonus on equipment is still +10, meaning you can get up to a +10 enhancement bonus. (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=4149.msg57492#msg57492)

But again, does not apply to not-gold effects that greant enhancmenet bonuses.

So what your saying is that I could have a valourous lance for 2000gp? And that would be a +1 gear. (But that wouldn't stack with my Armsmaster feature - which also wouldn't grant properties to my gear when I use it).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 18, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
That is correct.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Rekmond on December 19, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
Been doing some more thinking.

Using Tome of Radiance to build an archer in the spirit of Kid Icarus.

Anyplace for a Disciple of Palutena?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 19, 2017, 04:29:37 PM
Aside from any extra miscellaneous fluff, I believe Blitz (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18287.msg331693#msg331693) is done!
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Clanjos on December 21, 2017, 07:58:44 PM
So, I've had another dumb idea, and I need to figure out how to get into Fiend of Possession (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/266/009/3f5.png) early.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 21, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
You could probably choose one of Oslecamo's fiend classes and multiclass, and qualify by 4th level... Though it would be better if you could combine it with Intelligent Item...
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 23, 2017, 10:06:13 AM
So, I've had another dumb idea, and I need to figure out how to get into Fiend of Possession (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/266/009/3f5.png) early.
Hahaha, I'll have to veto that since a)I didn't play odyssey yet, b) don't want to be spoiled, c)in-game you would get tagged as one of gannon's minions to be master sworded ASAP and d) fiend of possession's super cheesy.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 27, 2017, 06:13:50 PM
and d) fiend of possession's super cheesy.
Not really, what's super cheesy is cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof.

But your homebrew allows anyone to do that anyway, so you might as well just ask how they intend to use it other than risking being sundered midflight after being thrown from a Follower.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 27, 2017, 07:28:23 PM
I'll bite that, which exactly of my homebrews allows to "cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof" and would be realistically appliable in this scenario? Closest thing I can remember right now is a Pure Adamantine set, and that would cost most of their wealth if not be outright off their buying power, be capped at adamantine hardness and that specifically doesn't work on equipment.

But either way the answer is still no, simply because there's three other reasons, one of which is that I haven't played Mario Odyssey and don't want to be spoiled on the plot. Thus the intent doesn't matter, anything Mario Odyssey specific is out.

Plus hey, Clanjos already has another character pretty much finished.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on December 27, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
Welllllp, guess I shouldn't add a hardness-granting ability to my current homebrew project...

>_>

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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 28, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
As long as it's not under one of my projects, what you do with your homebrew is your own business. :p

(plus I don't have anything specific against hardness boosting abilities, just don't recall doing any myself besides the pure adamantine and would like to clarify whetever this is just one more of soro's common blatant lies honest mistakes)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 28, 2017, 09:09:47 PM
I'm never going to finish working on Ice Beast to be able to make one as a submission.  I keep proposing significant changes   :lmao
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 28, 2017, 09:14:17 PM
Yeaahhh, I was kinda thinking that when checking your most recent update(s).  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 29, 2017, 12:43:38 AM
Yeaahhh, I was kinda thinking that when checking your most recent update(s).  :P

It probably doesn't help but the adjustments started as me wanting to nerf the class because I thought it was too front-loaded.  I just got inspired and did some expanding of choices as well.   :blush
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 29, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
So...things slowed down a lot while I was distracted.  Still accepting submissions?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 29, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
I count 5 players with about finished characters, so yes there's room for a 6th player to round things up.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 29, 2017, 12:28:41 PM
If it gets empty again let me know... I don't know the theme but this will probably be a good game to play an Ordinary Magician in.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 29, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
Zelda has Maple (https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Maple) that happens to be a broom-riding witch that loves to collect/loot shiny rare stuff all accross the land. Then there's of course Kotake and Koume bringing the danmaku and stealing the precious thing. Warioware has Ashley (http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Ashley_(WarioWare)).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on December 29, 2017, 12:57:39 PM
Yea, good ol' Ashley... Not sure if I meant character theme or game theme, but looks like both are easily canon. Cool.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 29, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
(plus I don't have anything specific against hardness boosting abilities, just don't recall doing any myself besides the pure adamantine and would like to clarify whetever this is just one more of soro's common blatant lies honest mistakes)
Sorry, after a 24 hour shift full of domestics & drug overdoses you can imagine my desire to comment here at the guy who forgot he just wrote a PrC last week that doubled one of his Feats that already gave a stacking bonus up to triple their HD and as we can see, took not hearing anything in 48 hours as some kind of supportive measure.

Here, through. You can reread your last post where you claimed to couldn't think of anything and then you did anyway.
I'll bite that, which exactly of my homebrews allows to "cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof" and would be realistically appliable in this scenario? Closest thing I can remember right now is a Pure Adamantine set,
Also fyi, Fiend of Possession can't control an Animated Object until it's 4th level. Even using multiclassing to enter a little early you can't obtain it until ECL7, so in "this scenario" the FoP obtains nothing. :)

Still, at +600gp per basic pure item a full-BABer can snag Hardness 8 (and +18ac) using Full-Plate & a Tower for 2,730gp. MiC prices the shirts like Core's Adamantine, or three points of DR is worth 15,000gp. So eight points is still fairly large in context/scenario and super cheap.

Welllllp, guess I shouldn't add a hardness-granting ability to my current homebrew project...
You can add whatever you want, I'd probably call it something other than Hardness through. Like is it an Object? Does it take 1/2 damage from Fire? What happens if I cast Magic Fang on it giving it's Natural Weapons a magical bonus that normally increases Hardness? You won't have to bury answers to questions like this in thread replies if you're clear on what you obtain and what it grants, the moniker "hardness" unfortunately is misleading.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on December 29, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
I'll start statting up an Ice Beast then since I'm done overhauling it.  Any more changes to it will be minor and based off feedback so character adjustment will be easy.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on December 30, 2017, 06:11:16 AM
you can imagine my desire to comment here at the guy who forgot he just wrote a PrC last week that doubled one of his Feats that already gave a stacking bonus up to triple their HD and as we can see, took not hearing anything in 48 hours as some kind of supportive measure.
Not only is that a prc for another campaign setting, it still doesn't affect hardness.

You could've presented your argument in a clear way in the first place instead of wasting everybody's time by making vague insults, but then you wouldn't be soro I guess.

Here, through. You can reread your last post where you claimed to couldn't think of anything and then you did anyway.
I'll bite that, which exactly of my homebrews allows to "cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof" and would be realistically appliable in this scenario? Closest thing I can remember right now is a Pure Adamantine set,
So it was just another of your blatant lies honest mistakes after all, because pure metal equipment grants hardness to creatures, not objects.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on December 30, 2017, 10:20:18 AM
So it was just another of your blatant lies honest mistakes after all, because pure metal equipment grants hardness to creatures, not objects.
:???
What does that have to do with... Wait...
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Not really, what's super cheesy is cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof.
I'll bite that, which exactly of my homebrews allows to "cranking the Hardness of the targeted Object through the roof"
Ooooh. I think the problem is you don't know what the Fiend does. It doesn't allow you to target Objects and increase their Hardness and even if it did on it's own that's not really all that useful giving how much people hate Sunder. What it does it is allows you to possess Objects allow them to animate and control them. So you increase the Hardness of the target of your possession so when you use it as your body it's fairly hard to kill. Like a Dwarvencraft Obdurium statue hit with a CL20 Hardening Spell cast on it prevents 42 damage per hit making it a great choice for your target.

This is also why Pure Crafting giving Creatures Hardness makes it relevant and why the technicality that Devotion doesn't use the term "Hardness" doesn't matter. Like at ECL7 a Conscience Android can prevent 42 points of damage per hit in addition to any other bonuses they obtain. You're not trying to change an Object for pretty much no reason, but to reduce damage you are taking.

You could've presented your argument in a clear way in the first place instead of wasting everybody's time by making vague insults, but then you wouldn't be soro I guess.
There wasn't anything insulting intended until the more recent post, which you provoked first, and clear communication is a problem everywhere as you should more than well know. Like quoting my sentence and trying to use it as if it meant something else other than the obvious answer.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Dr_emperor on January 01, 2018, 09:10:20 PM
Shakes fist at self.

Whatever you do don't take people in residency.  Especially a newlywed in residency.  Also don't play in their games.  They will fall off the internet for an entire year, turning to short video games for escapism and ignoring things they agreed to do. My experience, not an apology or an excuse for just ditching.

Alternatively, same problems on options with a summoner that Jeremy had and apparently others.  Also differing involvement, and waiting for people to post ate up time that I didn't have. I was holding back and was too strong.  Didn't know how much to summon and could destroy campaign balance by continuously summoning before encounters.  Specifically we knew where the island boss was and could get there could have summoned for 10 rounds and went in with a herd of bison?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on January 01, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
Shakes fist at self.

Whatever you do don't take people in residency.  Especially a newlywed in residency.  Also don't play in their games.  They will fall off the internet for an entire year, turning to short video games for escapism and ignoring things they agreed to do. My experience, not an apology or an excuse for just ditching.

Alternatively, same problems on options with a summoner that Jeremy had and apparently others.  Also differing involvement, and waiting for people to post ate up time that I didn't have. I was holding back and was too strong.  Didn't know how much to summon and could destroy campaign balance by continuously summoning before encounters.  Specifically we knew where the island boss was and could get there could have summoned for 10 rounds and went in with a herd of bison?
:twitch

Was this supposed to be in the small rants thread?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 01, 2018, 11:48:42 PM
Old players also feel free to chime in what went wrong/right from their perspective to help this go better.
Thank you Dr Emperor. Although fitting an herd of bison through the door would've been kinda hard, and then there were a bunch of extra stalfos waiting in the sidelines since the Hero's Shadow wanted a fair challenge.

And Soro, drop the drinks and drugs, it's already the 2nd of January.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 02, 2018, 05:20:20 AM
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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 02, 2018, 06:34:04 AM
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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on January 02, 2018, 09:08:07 AM
This thread is getting weirder by the day.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 06, 2018, 04:09:00 PM
Ugh, having the flu really sucks.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 09, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
I'm now over the flu.  Is this still going to happen?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 09, 2018, 07:34:45 PM
Probably. But not before next week, assuming player interest hasn'y evaporated by then.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on January 09, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
I am personally still interested, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on January 09, 2018, 08:19:42 PM
I'm still here.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 09, 2018, 08:36:41 PM
Interested, but only if previously interested players don't show up. Don't wanna take anyone's spot.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: ketaro on January 09, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Always <3
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 09, 2018, 11:58:03 PM
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Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 09, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
In that case, I present Freezaja!

I haven't figured out his last (first?) two feats and the accompanying flaws.  Everything else should be done.  Except I can't figure out what his final typing is since he goes from Outsider to Construct with the Living Construct subtype.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 10, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Relevant question; any good Catgirl races or racial classes out there? And no, I don't wanna be the corpse eating Touhou race either.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on January 10, 2018, 07:13:17 PM
Bhu probably made a dozen under her uncle kitty subforum in the homebrew section assuming you won't simply used WotC's catfolk.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 10, 2018, 10:05:44 PM
Bhu probably made a dozen under her uncle kitty subforum in the homebrew section assuming you won't simply used WotC's catfolk.

I'm not willing to deal with that LA for those catfolk. I'll look at that subforum,  which I knew about, buy for some reason think to look for catgirls in it.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 10, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
Tibbit?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 11, 2018, 02:28:23 AM
Anthropormophic animal? (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=532.0)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on January 11, 2018, 10:13:23 AM
There's always Osle's Catfolk (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=11361). That way you're not just eating a +1 LA as you're understandably unwilling to do, and you get a bit more for that effective level.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 11, 2018, 10:34:15 AM
There's always Osle's Catfolk (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=11361). That way you're not just eating a +1 LA as you're understandably unwilling to do, and you get a bit more for that effective level.

Yep that'll probably do it. Thanks. Funny he didn't suggest that.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 11, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
I assumed you would've already checked the monster class index for anything starting with cat. :P
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 11, 2018, 09:03:51 PM
Here I was thinking you'd temporarily forgotten it because of the size of the index... xD
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 11, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
I assumed you would've already checked the monster class index for anything starting with cat. :P

Fair point, I admit I wasn't thinking about the monster classes. But yea, a Catfolk Ordinary Magician.... Wait, they can do that right? Also the shifting ability score is odd... Especially with the other ability.

Dafuq, this is 7 pages already?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 11, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
Catfolk technically humanoid and LA 0 so yes good to go ordinary magician.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 11, 2018, 11:37:46 PM
Anyone have any suggestions on the missing feats for Freezaja?

Edit: For only taking one level Astral Stalker is underwhelming.  I'm going to change it to either Xill (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=2681.0) (for +1 BAB and four claws), or Anthopomorphic Animal (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=532.0) (for +1 BAB and better class abilities).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on January 12, 2018, 01:28:40 AM
If you do not have any ideas for the extra feats you could just not take the flaws.:p

Also trivia, Xill was the first contribution from another person to my monster classes. Man that is nostalgic.

Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on January 12, 2018, 11:06:50 AM
Hmm, now to figure out another martial school and weapon...
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 12, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
If you do not have any ideas for the extra feats you could just not take the flaws.:p

Also trivia, Xill was the first contribution from another person to my monster classes. Man that is nostalgic.

Xill is also underwhelming compared to Thri-Kreen but the Xill starts with a point of BAB which means I can actually take combat feats at first level.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: VennDygrem on January 12, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
Xill is also underwhelming compared to Thri-Kreen but the Xill starts with a point of BAB which means I can actually take combat feats at first level.

+1 BAB monsters, eh?

Feral Gargun (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17382.msg308422#msg308422) + Ice Beast would make a nice Yeti. (+1 Str/+1 Con, Powerful Build)
Gargoyle (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=12358.msg212118#msg212118) grants a decent way to go unnoticed and some interesting attack options, plus +2 Str/Con (though -2 Int)
Titan (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=8550.0) also gets powerful build, some SLA's, change shape (though no stat mods at 1st level).
Your Marrusault (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5188.msg74286#msg74286) also has +1 BAB at first level, d10 HD, and 4 skill points/lvl. Not an awful base to build off of.
Flind Gnoll (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=1323.0) also gets 4 skill points/lvl, free disarm attempt on critical hit. +2 Str at first level.

Obviously there are plenty more options, depending on the overall concept of your retired boss monster; These are all generally humanoid in shape.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on January 12, 2018, 06:22:44 PM
My concept is generally humanoid in shape with at least two natural weapons (I'm going for natural weapon attacks and Necklace of Natural Weapons gets expensive when it is boosting more than one type so I'm using that as a restriction as well).  I looked through everything, Xill and Anthropomorphic Animal appear to be the best options on that front.  Anthropomorphic Animal beats out all the options you listed unfortunately (I went through everything last night, not for the first time).

There are a couple of oozes that I'd be tempted to go with if I didn't think I'm going to have enough issues fitting in.  I don't want to be super obviously a monster, everyone will try to kill me then.   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on January 12, 2018, 07:01:33 PM
I don't want to be super obviously a monster, everyone will try to kill me then.   :lol
Call your self a squid, or w/e those things are in Nintendo's fps.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on February 20, 2018, 12:01:50 AM
Are we going to get this one off the ground?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: SorO_Lost on February 20, 2018, 04:19:43 PM
*Throws Octo Balloons at it*
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on February 20, 2018, 05:18:10 PM
*Throws Octo Balloons at it*

That reminds me, I never did pick a final monster class.

Os, if I am an obvious monster instead of a thing that looks humanoid will that be an issue or will I need Deceivingly Innocent Form?

Also, the Shoggoth mentions HD in a lot of its class abilities.  Is that meant to be HD in general or class level?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Archon on February 20, 2018, 08:00:01 PM
*Throws Octo Balloons at it*

That reminds me, I never did pick a final monster class.

Os, if I am an obvious monster instead of a thing that looks humanoid will that be an issue or will I need Deceivingly Innocent Form?

Also, the Shoggoth mentions HD in a lot of its class abilities.  Is that meant to be HD in general or class level?

I thought you picked that astral hunter class? And I'm pretty sure that all of Os's monster classes use total HD, not class HD.

(I still want to play this one too, btw)
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on February 20, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
*Throws Octo Balloons at it*

That reminds me, I never did pick a final monster class.

Os, if I am an obvious monster instead of a thing that looks humanoid will that be an issue or will I need Deceivingly Innocent Form?

Also, the Shoggoth mentions HD in a lot of its class abilities.  Is that meant to be HD in general or class level?

I thought you picked that astral hunter class? And I'm pretty sure that all of Os's monster classes use total HD, not class HD.

(I still want to play this one too, btw)

I did but I decided that Astral Hunter wasn't very good, I was talking about changing it previously.

Also this class was made by someone else so bad writing might have slipped through (it was also lasted posted in 2012).
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on February 28, 2018, 06:03:56 AM
New IC thread (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18366.msg333343;topicseen#msg333343) is up. Apologies if I'm a bit more railroady in this campaign at start but I can't really fully flesh out a full map right now and would like it to go somewhere.

Os, if I am an obvious monster instead of a thing that looks humanoid will that be an issue or will I need Deceivingly Innocent Form?

Also, the Shoggoth mentions HD in a lot of its class abilities.  Is that meant to be HD in general or class level?
No, between gorons and deku and zoras, most monstrous beings don't stand out too much in society as long as they behave themselves and aren't wearing human skins or something like that, and yes to HD.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on February 28, 2018, 10:18:40 AM
Okay, I'll revise my character to be more monstrous with a BAB+1 at first level which will make me feel better about my feats.  Then I'll migrate over.

It's a PbP, sometimes I feel like they have to be more railroady otherwise people sometimes never actually get anywhere...
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: Nanshork on February 28, 2018, 10:12:42 PM
I'm revising Freezaja into a Shoggoth and I realized that the class doesn't say what its magic item slots are.
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on February 28, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
Use the following present in other ooze monster classes:

"Oozes can use their body as either head+neck slot or body+belt slot. The ooze can wear more magic equipment by having it crafted in the form of orbs that float around him like ioun stones, but said custom equipment costs double the normal market price."
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: YuweaCurtis on March 01, 2018, 07:24:55 PM
I had no idea the forum for this was active, I guess its a good thing you posted here... Is there room?
Title: Re: Nintendo/Zelda Campaign Revival/New Start
Post by: oslecamo on March 02, 2018, 09:18:59 AM
Seems like Nanshork+Ketaro+Archon+VennDygrem+Soro, that's 5, so yes room for one more.