Mythic Sagas: OOC Talk

[phaedrusxy]

Uhh... I thought we just rolled twice and took the better roll? So if you have one class that is d6 and another that is d8 on the other side, you'd roll d8 twice and pick the best. Is that not right? (Not that it mattered for me, as both classes are d8...)

And a question: Would you allow the Shapeshifter PrC from Oriental Adventures? I know if I use that, I'm basically building a quasi-druid... but I wouldn't mind picking up a few levels of it. It's basically adding more druid to the watered-down spontaneous casting druid that the Spirit Shaman basically is. (and yeah, I could just be a druid, but I want to try something different  )

Edit: And would you let some of the newer Polymorph subschool spells count for entry? The PrC was obviously written before those existed, and so they weren't taken into account for entry requirements.

[ksbsnowowl]

Uhh... I thought we just rolled twice and took the better roll? So if you have one class that is d6 and another that is d8 on the other side, you'd roll d8 twice and pick the best. Is that not right? (Not that it mattered for me, as both classes are d8...)

No, you're right; dna1 should have rolled 2d8 (and taken the best one) four times.  But apparently I'm coming across like this:

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Humphrey: All right, settle down. Settle down... Now, before I begin the lesson, will those of you who are playing in the match this afternoon move your clothes down onto the lower peg immediately after lunch, before you write your letter home, if you're not getting your hair cut, unless you've got a younger brother who is going out this weekend as the guest of another boy, in which case, collect his note before lunch, put it in your letter after you've had your hair cut, and make sure he moves your clothes down onto the lower peg for you. Now...

Wymer: Sir?

Humphrey: Yes, Wymer?

Wymer: My younger brother's going out with Dibble this weekend, sir, but I'm not having my hair cut today, sir.

Pupils: [chuckling]

Wymer: So, do I move my clothes down, or...

Humphrey: I do wish you'd listen, Wymer. It's perfectly simple. If you're not getting your hair cut, you don't have to move your brother's clothes down to the lower peg. You simply collect his note before lunch, after you've done your scripture prep, when you've written your letter home, before rest, move your own clothes onto the lower peg, greet the visitors, and report to Mr. Viney that you've had your chit signed.

And a question: Would you allow the Shapeshifter PrC from Oriental Adventures? I know if I use that, I'm basically building a quasi-druid... but I wouldn't mind picking up a few levels of it. It's basically adding more druid to the watered-down spontaneous casting druid that the Spirit Shaman basically is. (and yeah, I could just be a druid, but I want to try something different  )

Absolutely you could.

Edit: And would you let some of the newer Polymorph subschool spells count for entry? The PrC was obviously written before those existed, and so they weren't taken into account for entry requirements.

I'll allow any of them that are 4th level or higher to qualify you for it.

[phaedrusxy]

Thanks. Awesome quote (and movie), also.

[ksbsnowowl]

Awesome quote (and movie), also.

My sister recently disagreed with you...  Of course, she's got a corn cob stuck where the sun don't shine, so that's generally her demeanor toward everything.

[dna1]

lol idk what movie thats from.. sounds like some monty python or something. i had to read it a few times haha

[ksbsnowowl]

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Should I be sadistic and tell dna1 he still did it wrong, again, even though he didn't? 

Just poking fun.

lol idk what movie thats from.. sounds like some monty python or something. i had to read it a few times haha

Monty Python's Meaning of Life.

[ksbsnowowl]

I'm temped to start the main thread tonight.  You guys could still have until Saturday night to finalize stuff on your character sheets.  Initial post will just have you traveling along a road, so you guys could role-play casual conversation that occurs over the course of a few hours.

phaedrus, just treat your existing binding check to have been the one you did that morning (or possibly during the night).  You'll see what I mean when you see the first post.  You guys can each decide how and why (within reason) you are all present on the road that day.  There will be some supposition in the post that at least one of you was working for a merchant as a guard.  You'll see what I mean.  Just insert yourselves as you see fit.

[Lycanshee]

I'm down.

[ksbsnowowl]

I can post the Lute info when I get home.

The important bits:

Bardic Music: A bard playing a lute is treated as one level higher for the purpose of adjudicating the power of his bardic music effects. For example, a 3rd-level bard using a lute could fascinate two creatures instead of one, a 6th-level bard using a lute to make a suggestion would calculate the save DC as if he were 7th level, and a 7th-level bard using a lute to inspire courage would grant a +2 morale bonus on the appropriate rolls.

A bard who uses a lute for bardic music can cast spells while performing, but only if those spells have no somatic, material, or focus components.         

So, it doesn't appear to just grant you an all-encompassing "+1 to inspire courage," but rather ups your level by one.  So, once you are 7th level, the lute would allow your "jotunfire inspiration" to deal an extra d6 of damage.

The Inspirational Boost spell (SpC) would give you an extra d6 of fire damage, though.

[dna1]

whats the price?

[phaedrusxy]

The MW horn gives +1 to attack and damage for IC. It's 100 gp. I think it's from CAdv, but might have been from Song and Silence or something...

[ksbsnowowl]

whats the price?

Unless I'm completely blind (which is a possibility), I'm not seeing any prices listed for any of the masterwork instruments in Comp Adv.

However, looking at chapter 7 of the PHB, we have "Musical Instrument, Masterwork" listed as 100 gp.

[ksbsnowowl]

And the game has begun.

Edit:  Just a reminder, you have until Saturday evening to finalize your character sheets (not a hard limit, but they should be done by the time I wake up Sunday).  Exact character stats won't be needed until after that time.  Being as it is a holiday weekend for many, I do not plan to start laying any hooks until Monday evening, so enjoy your three-day weekends without guilt.

[phaedrusxy]

And the game has begun.

Awesome. How's the weather looking for the day? Trying to decide between Bottle of Smoke or Giant's Wrath for my prepared 3rd level spell. If it's windy, I'll go with the latter. If not, maybe the former.

Edit: Untrained Survival check:

Rolled 1d20+3 : 2 + 3, total 5

[ksbsnowowl]

You don't know about later in the day, but this morning the wind is coming out of the SW, at less than 10 mph.

[ksbsnowowl]

phaedrus, shouldn't your hit points be 35, not 27?

You rolled 25 for your five HD, and you have a Con of 14. (It looks like you only applied your Con modifier once).  With your double pact augmentation, it would give you 45 hit points.

Also, just to make sure I'm reading that ability correctly, you are treated in all ways as if you had 10 more hit points, right?  They aren't temporary hit points or anything; you can be healed back up to 45 hp?

[Risada]

phaedrus, shouldn't your hit points be 35, not 27?

You rolled 25 for your five HD, and you have a Con of 14. (It looks like you only applied your Con modifier once).  With your double pact augmentation, it would give you 45 hit points.

Also, just to make sure I'm reading that ability correctly, you are treated in all ways as if you had 10 more hit points, right?  They aren't temporary hit points or anything; you can be healed back up to 45 hp?

Damn... A skinny half elf has as much HP as me? Might as well hide behind SDK... 

[phaedrusxy]

phaedrus, shouldn't your hit points be 35, not 27?

You rolled 25 for your five HD, and you have a Con of 14. (It looks like you only applied your Con modifier once).  With your double pact augmentation, it would give you 45 hit points.

Also, just to make sure I'm reading that ability correctly, you are treated in all ways as if you had 10 more hit points, right?  They aren't temporary hit points or anything; you can be healed back up to 45 hp?

Yes, you're right on all counts.

Damn... A skinny half elf has as much HP as me? Might as well hide behind SDK... 

I think we'll all be hiding behind SDK.

When binding Malphus (as now), Skulda will send the summoned bird ahead to scout. I think a couple of hundred yards should typically be enough, but I might vary it with terrain. Here the bird will be flying about 3/4ths of the way up to the top of the trees, so it can hopefully see both creatures hiding down on the ground, or in trees. Let me know if you want me to roll its spot checks, but it has the stats of a mundane raven.

[phaedrusxy]

What an interesting idea for that spirit companion ACF, Risada! My character has Detect Spirits at will. So it is inevitable that she'll eventually figure out that you're being followed around by one, and she'll definitely be curious and likely approach you about it. Let's just go ahead and RP that out, what do you say?

Edit: Actually after rereading the ACF, I'm not sure she could detect it... although fluffwise it sure makes sense that she could! And I think it would be more interesting if she could RPwise, also. I'll wait for the DM to weigh in on this, but will post the text of both abilities below for reference:

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By sacrificing a possible link to an earthly creature, you gain the ability to store arcane energy in a divine reservoir that takes the form of a spirit creature. Linked to you through your own life essence, this divine companion can then transform that energy into beneficial effects.

Level: 1st.

Replaces: This benefit replaces the summon familiar class feature.

Benefit: You can spend 100 gp to perform a ritual dedicated to the deity of your choice and summon forth a spirit creature to aid you in your adventures. This creature is both invisible and intangible, but it provides you with real benefits.

The divine companion stores arcane energy and redirects it to you according to your level and your needs. To fill this reservoir, you must cast one or more targeted spells at this creature. A spell so cast does not produce its normal effect; the companion simply absorbs the spell's energy. It can store a number of spell levels equal to your arcane caster level. You can cast spells into it at any time, but after you rest and recover your spell slots for the day, the divine companion loses any stored energy.

The divine companion exists outside reality and cannot be affected by spells, spell-like abilities, or any sort of antimagic effect or dispel check. It cannot, however, release its arcane energy within an antimagic field or similar effect. It uses your caster level for any checks required, and when it releases arcane energy, the level of the effect created equals the number of spell levels released.

The divine companion can release its stored spell energy in either of the following ways, at your command. You can use each effect as often as you wish, until the companion's stored energy is depleted.

Healing (Su): As a standard action, you can order your divine companion to convert the energy it has stored into healing power. This is the equivalent of a conjuration (healing) spell. This effect heals you for 1d6 points of damage per stored spell level, or as many levels as you designate (up to the maximum currently stored).

Shielding (Su): As a swift action, you can order the creature to convert the energy it has stored into protecting you. This is the equivalent of an abjuration spell that provides you with a deflection bonus to AC and a resistance bonus on saves each equal to the number of stored spell levels, or as many levels as you designate (up to the maximum currently stored). This effect lasts for 1 round per arcane caster level you possess.

Detect Spirits is a Spell-like ability that works like Detect Undead, but on a wider range of creatures.

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Detect Spirits (Sp): The spirit shaman's spirit guide perceives nearby spirits. At will, the spirit shaman can use detect spirits as a spell-like ability. It functions just like detect undead, except it detects creatures that are considered spirits.

And here is a side-bar on what counts as a "spirit":

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WHAT IS A SPIRIT?
Several of the spirit shaman's abilities affect spirits. For purposes of the spirit shaman's ability, a "spirit" includes any of the following creatures:
All incorporeal undead
All fey
All elementals
Creatures in astral form or with astral bodies (but not a creature physically present on the Astral Plane)
All creatures of the spirit subtype (see Oriental Adventures)
Spirit folk and telthors (see Unapproachable East)
Spirit creatures created by spells such as dream sight or wood wose (see Chapter 7).

In the spirit shaman's worldview, elementals and fey are simply spirits of nature, and incorporeal undead are the spirits of the dead.

[Risada]

SNIP

Fine with me... Let's see what our mighty overlord has to say ...