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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2013, 07:42:46 AM »
If timeframe is an issue with the Achilles thingy, I can go with a Bellerophon build: Celestial Bloodline, Great Wheel Ranger X // Light Cavalry Scout. Pick up Swift Hunter & Devoted Tracker, and get a Pegasus.  Could mounted movement activate skirmish pretty pls?
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2013, 07:49:35 AM »
You don't have to play an actual mythological hero. @_@

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2013, 10:17:55 AM »
You don't have to play an actual mythological hero. @_@
Oh, I know.  Just looking for inspiration, and these guys are by definition thematically appropriate.
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #63 on: June 01, 2013, 04:28:43 PM »
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... I don't know why I said that. There are maps of the myths. And for details, I have a copy of "Theogony and Works and Days".
To say nothing of Wikipedia. Or Theoi, and the like.

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #64 on: June 01, 2013, 04:32:25 PM »
Wouldn't really want to play a Cleric of any sort anyway. Hm. I'll see what I can come up with; I badly want Feater 2 at least. :lmao

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2013, 04:55:10 PM »
Mounted skirmish ok? How will you do bloodlines? How does Swift Hunter interact with: (a) gestalt, (b) favored planes?

If skirmish doesn't work out, I'll probly swap scout for X 5/Ranger Knight 8.
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2013, 05:36:33 PM »
... I don't know how Cloistered Cleric earns an extra three feats, anyway. What I really want is an extra three feats on top of the three I get at level one by level 3. Fighter gives another, levelling gives a second. So... one more feat. What counts as a feat in this case, any way? @_@

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2013, 05:42:29 PM »
Mounted skirmish ok? How will you do bloodlines? How does Swift Hunter interact with: (a) gestalt, (b) favored planes?

So long as your position has changed, Skirmish triggers. So, yes, Mounted still counts.

Bloodlines.

Feats that combine class features only do so on that side of the gestalt.

... I don't know how Cloistered Cleric earns an extra three feats, anyway. What I really want is an extra three feats on top of the three I get at level one by level 3. Fighter gives another, levelling gives a second. So... one more feat. What counts as a feat in this case, any way? @_@

Cloistered Cleric swaps out its three Domains for Devotion Feats.
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2013, 05:49:27 PM »
Hm, right.

... I think this may be one of the few times monk is appropriate, since it gets a bonus feat. :lmao

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2013, 05:51:20 PM »
Sweet!

If Percy isn't doing Dread Champion, then Demoralizing Shot Sniper // War Frenzy of Fear doesn't occupy the same territory (BFC, especially fear-based).  As someone (CNC?) said, the Holomancer's Eldritch Coherent Light Blast could be refluffed to be "moonbeams" from Apollo, or somesuch, but I dunno so much about the other Invocations.

One pro fro Holomancer is that I can apply a Prismatic Essence to turn the blast into healing, which could be super useful.  Unless someone else can provide that.

I think I'll scrap Spellshot Marksman.  If you're okay with either Holomancer (refluffed) or WF-Fear, then I'll leave it up the rest of the group.

WF-Fear = Ranged BFC, Fear effects, Shared Trance benefits
Holomancer = Ranged DPS, Healing, Invocations

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2013, 05:56:53 PM »
Hm, so: Fighter 13//Monk 2 (or rogue. Any bonus feats work)/Feater 4/Saint 2/Paragon 5?

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2013, 06:01:43 PM »
RD, I don't know if it's gonna apply for your build (if you end using Monk it could, depending on your weapon of choice), but note in the Houserules that Improved Unarmed Strike is updated.

Nevermind. I forgot you were doing Pure Crafting.  :blush

EDIT: Reading through Pure Crafting.  No Pure+ Alloys for us teammates... :(
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2013, 06:18:20 PM »
Yup, I'm just in it for the feats and feat-chain-skipping. Which ought to be fun (if I can work out enough feats). At least leaves me wondering less 'what the hell am I doing with half of these bonuses'. :lmao

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2013, 06:21:59 PM »
If Percy isn't doing Dread Champion, then Demoralizing Shot Sniper // War Frenzy of Fear doesn't occupy the same territory (BFC, especially fear-based).  As someone (CNC?) said, the Holomancer's Eldritch Coherent Light Blast could be refluffed to be "moonbeams" from Apollo, or somesuch, but I dunno so much about the other Invocations.
One pro fro Holomancer is that I can apply a Prismatic Essence to turn the blast into healing, which could be super useful.  Unless someone else can provide that.
WF-Fear = Ranged BFC, Fear effects, Shared Trance benefits
Holomancer = Ranged DPS, Healing, Invocations
The healing is really appropriate for Apollo, who took over being a god of healing.

Hm, so: Fighter 13//Monk 2 (or rogue. Any bonus feats work)/Feater 4/Saint 2/Paragon 5?

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2013, 06:31:09 PM »
Hm, right, time to work out just how many feats I need to fill in...

1st, Human, Fighter, Monk (must be some somewhere that're more exciting than those options), 2nd Fighter, 2nd Monk, 3rd Level, 1st Feater, 2nd Feater, 3rd Fighter (oh, right, from these two onwards, only need to meet one prerequisite), 3rd Feater, 4th Feater, 6th level, 4th Fighter, (these onwards, ignore two prerequisites), 5th Fighter, 9th Level, 6th Fighter, 12th Level, 7th Fighter.

... this is quite a lot of feats to fill in. Shouldn't have any trouble getting the Paragon Excellency requirements.

I suppose it's bad form to start taking Great Excellences as early as possible?

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2013, 06:44:41 PM »
You could use some feats on a Wizard w/Fighter Mechanics chain! (Bless could be appropriate, at least thematically.)

Also, I'm probably going to be a Lesser Aasimar, regardless of the choice between Holo and WF.

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2013, 06:49:20 PM »
... I am baffled that Monkey Grip is, for some reason, not a fighter feat.

I presume that [Epic] isn't allowed, even if it's treated as a prerequisite?

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2013, 06:57:39 PM »
I presume that [Epic] isn't allowed, even if it's treated as a prerequisite?
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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2013, 06:59:39 PM »
... couldn't get at the thing I was looking at, anyway. Oh well. XD

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Re: Ancient Greek Monster Hunting Idea Thing
« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2013, 07:30:31 PM »
[Epic] is not a prerequisite. I'll try to have a build up soon.
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