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Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« on: December 24, 2011, 03:22:07 PM »
Extract Gift is a spell out of the Fiendish Codex 1, beginning on page 92. People have been talking about this spell on these boards off and on for a while, but we haven’t had a decent source on how to optimize it. So I went through the books and looked at the demons. Then I compiled a list of who is best for what skills and abilities.

About the Spell
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Extract Gift Versus Item
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To make the best use of this spell there are three things you need

A) Find a way to do the spell for free.
On the path to freedom
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B) Get your caster level high enough.

C) Know what to bind.
(check the next few posts)
And get the Stat higher.
Sources of Bonuses to Ability Scores by Maat Mons

Books I found Demons in
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Update #1 yay, Tables. soooo pretty.
Extract Gift Mini-Handbook - Discussion
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2011, 03:22:34 PM »
What you can call with Lesser Planar Binding
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 03:22:42 PM »
What you can call with Planar Binding
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2011, 03:22:50 PM »
What you can call with Planar Binding + Malconvoker
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 03:22:58 PM »
What you can call with Greater Planar Binding
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2011, 03:23:22 PM »
What you can call with Greater Planar Binding + Malconvoker
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2011, 03:23:30 PM »
What you can call with Gate.
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Re: Extract Gift Mini-Handbook
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2011, 03:23:37 PM »
Other notes on Skills and Abilities

Other Demons have ranks in other knowledge’s, but as the Balor (and others) can max “any” knowledge’s, I did not bother to mark those with knowledge’s in the lower catagories, even in the 12 and 14 areas there are demons that will max “any two” like the Glabrezu.

Lilitu will max one perform at 17.

Broodswarms have 11 ranks in Disable Devise and Open Lock, but it would be up for debate if you can use Extract Gift on a Swarm.

As a special mention, the Aspect of Orcus has both knowledge (religion) and Knowledge (undead). …???

An Aspect of Lolth has 17 ranks in Appraise, Climb and Craft (Alchemy), as well as a Wis of 26, but she has none of the demonic subtypes and is not listed as a demon. She is an Outsider with the Evil and Chaotic subtypes though, so you may get your DM to approve her as a Demon.

If you can pass to your DM that any Outsider with both the Evil and Chaotic subtypes can be used for Extract Gift (and I don’t see why not) then all you really need to do is find someone or something with a high score, then Polymorph them into a Demon (since Polymorph changes type). If you want the physical stats, then have them break a Delicate Disk with Strength of the True Form stored it. (Delicate Disk is in LEoF, Strength of the True Form is in DoE)

In a similar vein, you can use Draconic Polymorph out of Draconomicon to emulate a demon, and have better Str and Con. This is actually superior to Binding those demons.

Also note, as we are calling demons, it is possible to call an advanced demon to get more skill ranks (or if your DM is very nice, abilities). This is especially important when looking at using Gate (you can call anything, you just can’t control the powerful).
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