FTL neutrinos?

[weenog]

Weird.  Weird, weird, weird, weird, weird.  The word seems to be stuck on an endless loop playback in my brain.

Apparently the experiment that seemed to show neutrinos moving faster than light has been re-run with a revised procedure for improved accuracy -- and gave the same result.  The team involved is being fairly responsible here, not rashly jumping to conclusions, looking for independent confirmation from elsewhere, etc.  I'm astonished they made it this far without discovering some bug in the system responsible for an error.  Maybe there's something to this FTL neutrino travel, but I'm not convinced. 

What do you all make of the situation?

[altpersona]

we've got teleporters, comunicators, tractobeams... ftl is so 1962..   

[veekie]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

[Agita]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

[skydragonknight]

Or maybe we should be trying to look at time from a non-linear perspective. /Dr. Manhattan

[altpersona]

iirc, dr manhattans view is the correct one.

time and causeality are not as bound together as they seem.

what we need is for a neutrino to go back and kill its grandfather, then we could know for sure.

[Bozwevial]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

Hey now, what has causality ever done to you? Besides everything, of course.

[Agita]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

Hey now, what has causality ever done to you? Besides everything, of course.

It's nothing personal, but sometimes you just have to accept casualties in the name of science.

[Bozwevial]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

Hey now, what has causality ever done to you? Besides everything, of course.

It's nothing personal, but sometimes you just have to accept casualties in the name of science.

Let the record show that I'm opposed to the casual creation of a causality casualty.

[Agita]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

Hey now, what has causality ever done to you? Besides everything, of course.

It's nothing personal, but sometimes you just have to accept casualties in the name of science.

Let the record show that I'm opposed to the casual causation of a causality casualty.

Fixed. Might as well go all the way, non?

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Somebody at the wotc 4e boards, compared his build to Pun-pun.

The universe responded with FTL neutrinos, again.

Coincidence ??

[Bozwevial]

If they're really doing FTL, first step is to try to invoke informational paradox.

Yeah. There are a few known situations in which c can be exceeded, but no information transferred. So the first thing to test is whether we can now break causality.

Hey now, what has causality ever done to you? Besides everything, of course.

It's nothing personal, but sometimes you just have to accept casualties in the name of science.

Let the record show that I'm opposed to the casual causation of a causality casualty.

Fixed. Might as well go all the way, non?

The fact that I missed that one fills me with a burning shame causalgia.

[Halinn]

Somebody at the wotc 4e boards, compared his build to Pun-pun.

The universe responded with FTL neutrinos, again.

Coincidence ??

Yes.

[solara]

Well, the thing is, they've only corrected one of the bagillions of sources of error. I'll just wait for them to fix more of the problems around this measurement. For now, I'll stick with my clock-rulers and Einstein.

[kurashu]

http://www.strayneutrino.org/

So fast you can't even see the entries.