First!Really dude?How about create greater undead?
If someone were to cast True Resurrection of Bahamut's bones what would happen?
First!Really dude?How about create greater undead?
If someone were to cast True Resurrection of Bahamut's bones what would happen?
Really dude? How about create greater undead?Yep totally beat you to it. I want a pet dragon like Richard, Create Undead would turn him into a mummy or something.
If someone were to cast True Resurrection of Bahamut's bones what would happen?
Game-spanning collection quest found.Yeahee 100%ing the game.
SorO, are you counting your speed bonuses twice when calculating your flight speed?
Other than that, I'm just jealous that I had to spend so much to get a similar initiative bonus (might drop some of it since Os does group initiative), and of your superior stealth skill bonuses. I'm sure I'll get over it, though. :D
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I'm really nervous at how much of my wealth is being spent on my neck slot item, since so much that I want seems to occupy that slot. I already had to get rid of one piece of the combined item due to cost. The bulk of it is in that since my attacks are derived from my natural weapons, it's mostly residing in a Necklace of Natural Weapons. I won't be happy if anything happens to that.
Does anyone know of any particular protections for magic items? Bonuses against sunder/dispel/disjunction?
If you plan on using it, just give me a chance to hide first, please. :D
SorO, are you counting your speed bonuses twice when calculating your flight speed?No, but I did apply the Graft's bonuses before the Template bonuses.
I also don't particularly expect Oslecamo to use Disjunction or Sunder against us because it's just overall incredibly frustrating for everyone involved. Still, I can't help but want to be prepared for as many scenarios as possible given how brutal this campaign has the potential to be.
When things are increasing your Speed without specifying each I've always gone with it increases each type. Like Haste doesn't say Land-Only, it simply says Speed. It's kind of unfair to say it doesn't increase a Merfolk's Swim or a Dragon's flight. The trick is I "can fly at a speed equal to twice its normal land speed". So, anything that increases my land speed indirectly increases my fly speed but I still have to apply modifiers directly to it as normal.
180 flight speed, that's cute.
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Catch me if ya can.
Is Tiamat in the same boat? I seem to remember you claiming she had been gibbed as well.She was killed. I worship a dead god.
Now if there was something in D&D that added damage based on how fast you were moving towards your target......One of the "Mark of ..." feats from FCII (Mark of Minauros?) adds bonuses to hit based upon your speed when charging. Use Power Attack to convert some of it to damage.
it would be beautiful yet horrifying to behold.
MARK OF MINAUROS
Mammon is an expert at managing the various powers of Hell. From service to this archdevil, you know when to use explosive violence and when to beat a hasty retreat.
Prerequisites: Brand of the Nine Hells, allegiance to Mammon.
Benefit: Like your master, you know when to fight and when to flee. When making a charge attack, you gain a +2 bonus on your attack roll at the end of the charge for every 10 feet you move as part of the charge (in addition to the normal attack bonus from charging). In addition, when you move (and only when you move), the square in which you start your movement is not considered threatened.
Normal: You gain a +2 bonus on your attack roll at the end of a charge. Withdrawing is a full-round action.
You move up to 1 mile per IL in a straight line. During this movement you're immune to all damage and ill effects and other creatures can't take immediate actions as they're too awed.
DRACONIC VIGOR [DRACONIC]
You gain some of the vitality of your draconic ancestry when
casting spells.
Prerequisite: Draconic Heritage, sorcerer level 1st.
Benefit: Whenever you cast an arcane spell, you heal a
number of points of damage equal to the spell's level.
180 flight speed, that's cute.750 flight speed, that's cute. :p
Lowball that should be ...475 ft (Good), if all the boosts stack though it will be 750 ft (Good).
Ketaro, the Pectoral of Maneuverability only boosts one level of maneuverability for 12k; it's a whole 90k to boost by two levels. So, unless your fly speed started at average, that's probably where it is right now, or unless you had another maneuverability-improving factor.
Looks like you're missing your Tiefling racial traits. I know you're all about burning your enemies' shadows into the environment without leaving a trace of their bodies, but +20 to Bluff and Hide, and Resist 10 Fire/Cold/Electricity aren't so bad either. :D
If I can't see you, how do I avoid blowing you up too?
If I can't see you, how do I avoid blowing you up too?
That beats my +50 Reflex Bonus, how'd you do that?If I can't see you, how do I avoid blowing you up too?Because, when I hide, I am literally not considered to be on the battlefield anymore. ;)
Paragon Infiltration: You need Paragon Stealth or Paragon Manipulation to pick this Greater Excellence. When traveling, you don't need to specify where your character is as long as you don't take any specific actions. At any moment during an ally's turn, you may show up in any position in that ally's field of view and act on his iniative before rolling your own. You were there all along! Whenever you sucesfully hide again, you may “disapear” once more in your own turn as a move action, but cannot “appear” again until the next round. In addition 1/round you may use a Sleight of Hand check instead of an attack roll or Physical Ability score check, and 1/round you may atempt to Feint an enemy as a free action.
Having a high movement speed and not having Good or better maneuverability (or some other means to hover) could be a downer. If you have a 750 ft flight speed, and no method of hovering, you HAVE to move 375 feet every round, or fall.
30' perfect. :T
I AM SLOW.
Except I can choose to be fast after unleashing laser doom!
... and... Sungrazer.
What the fuck am I supposed to do with a maneuver that moves me 17 miles the first level I can ever use it?
30' perfect. :T
I AM SLOW.
Except I can choose to be fast after unleashing laser doom!
... and... Sungrazer.
What the fuck am I supposed to do with a maneuver that moves me 17 miles the first level I can ever use it?
Make damn sure you're the only survivor of the assured TPK this game will land on quickly :plotting
30' perfect. :TI'm not any faster. 30' perfect, and no real tools to speed things up. Unless I can use UMD to fake a spell list for Runestaffs, I'm out of luck too.
I AM SLOW.
Except I can choose to be fast after unleashing laser doom!
Also, I'm hoping that I can just ignore carrying capacity concerns (within reason). Having level 20 gear with a strength of 10 makes me a little wary...
I hadn't noticed the IC. ^^;Although you theoretically can't run out of demons indeed, it's quite possible to run out of chaotic infernals that are willing to fight together against a common enemy instead of among themselves, fleeing to even lower planes, or something else random, evil and self-defeating. That's why they haven't overrun everything else after all. :P
I question how you can possibly run out of demons, since they're effectively infinite. XD
Sorry, I honestly didn't notice that this was up. :blushYes, but you'll still need to spend actual spell slots to activate it.
I'm still wanting to know so that I can get my sheet 100% wrapped up: Can I use UMD to fake having spells on my list, so that I can use a runestaff?
Awesome. That's all I wanted.I hadn't noticed the IC. ^^;Although you theoretically can't run out of demons indeed, it's quite possible to run out of chaotic infernals that are willing to fight together against a common enemy instead of among themselves, fleeing to even lower planes, or something else random, evil and self-defeating. That's why they haven't overrun everything else after all. :P
I question how you can possibly run out of demons, since they're effectively infinite. XDSorry, I honestly didn't notice that this was up. :blushYes, but you'll still need to spend actual spell slots to activate it.
I'm still wanting to know so that I can get my sheet 100% wrapped up: Can I use UMD to fake having spells on my list, so that I can use a runestaff?
Done, they're in the first post of this thread.
Also seems like I managed to kill most interest in this campaign with just 1 IC post. Go me!Also, I'm hoping that I can just ignore carrying capacity concerns (within reason). Having level 20 gear with a strength of 10 makes me a little wary...
As long as you aren't trying to carry your personal shop or anything (couldn't you afford some gauntlets of ogre strength or an handy haversack?). :p
We don't need Knock, since I can just do that by hand. :lmao
We don't need Knock, since I can just do that by hand. :lmao
You do it by laser. I actually do it by hand :P
It affects everybody in a line with width up to 35 feet and length up to 100 feet per IL. It deals extra damage equal to four Spellcraft checks from you. It deals full damage to terrain, ignores hardness, regeneration and any other effect that would reduce or convert damage.
I'm not allowed to use this at full power inside, am I?No wonder you wanted Sadism. :p
I'm basically Black Mage from 8-Bit Theater. :P
Oh yeah, forgot to note I have Darkvision.
I picked up an eternal wand of anticipate teleportation, so you don't need that unless we split up. Although, it would probably be better with you since I may not count as being within 60 feet of you guys when it counts. If you buy that, it frees me up to swap out one of my items for something else I was trying to fit in...I know this is a late response, but I went ahead and bought it, so if you want to drop yours for something else (assuming Oslecamo is cool with a bit more wealth fiddling), that's cool.
Again, I've got the greater version up 24/7I picked up an eternal wand of anticipate teleportation, so you don't need that unless we split up. Although, it would probably be better with you since I may not count as being within 60 feet of you guys when it counts. If you buy that, it frees me up to swap out one of my items for something else I was trying to fit in...I know this is a late response, but I went ahead and bought it, so if you want to drop yours for something else (assuming Oslecamo is cool with a bit more wealth fiddling), that's cool.
Only SorO or Frogman have any reason to try and roll for initiative, everyone else can't top the enemies.
Only SorO or Frogman have any reason to try and roll for initiative, everyone else can't top the enemies.
*Ahem*
:flutter
Hmmmmm, I see my folly in not playing a spellcaster ;)
Hmmmmm, I see my folly in not playing a spellcaster ;)
What, you don't like not being small and fragile? :P
Hmmmmm, I see my folly in not playing a spellcaster ;)
What, you don't like not being small and fragile? :P
Pff, that is not a drawback :p
How far away are they?I ask because I get to move all of 30' and my best effects are touch or close ranged.
How far away are they?I ask because I get to move all of 30' and my best effects are touch or close ranged.
Or if you want to blast right away feel free to, the ship and celestials (10 of them) are roughly 200 feet away from you right now, and 30 feet away from each other.
How far away are they?I ask because I get to move all of 30' and my best effects are touch or close ranged.
Well, I could appear and cast haste, so you'd bump that up to 60 ft, but my question is: does it matter after Raineh's actions? Is it worth it for me to even appear?
How far away are they?I ask because I get to move all of 30' and my best effects are touch or close ranged.
Only SorO or Frogman have any reason to try and roll for initiative, everyone else can't top the enemies.I got a 43 (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15078.msg268685#msg268685) :)
And I notice now that Soro's character hasn't actually rolled spot or declared any special senses, so he could start with that to see if his character can notice them instead of dropping his jaw upon Celestine's pretty lights.I rolled Spot (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15105.msg267951#msg267951), I just didn't list any Special Senses. Mindsight, Darkvision 120ft, and I can see through magical darkness and I think that's it.
Well I can't see anything so combat over! :lmao
I know I put it on spoilers, but there's still two shrouded mind flayer spellcasters flying around that can teleport in other people's turns.Don't forget that if they teleport within 60' of me, bad things happen (http://therafimrpg.wikidot.com/anticipate-teleportation-greater). To them.
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And I notice now that Soro's character hasn't actually rolled spot or declared any special senses, so he could start with that to see if his character can notice them instead of dropping his jaw upon Celestine's pretty lights.
There's really only one if them that might have teleported into the area of the Greater Anticipate Teleportation effect; if that one was affected, then Damaros wouldn't have noticed it reappear yet, unless it's made clear where the Illithid pops up again and when.Yup. For the record, I hadn't moved at all from the portal until just now - at which point I'm 30' above it.
Ok, then your character this turn can mindsight the invisible mind flayer that teleported 100 feet to the right of Betral.And I notice now that Soro's character hasn't actually rolled spot or declared any special senses, so he could start with that to see if his character can notice them instead of dropping his jaw upon Celestine's pretty lights.I rolled Spot (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15105.msg267951#msg267951), I just didn't list any Special Senses. Mindsight, Darkvision 120ft, and I can see through magical darkness and I think that's it.
"Love is a very powerful force. Even moreso when it's focused into a coherent beam of destruction. Every time i cast hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast."
My thoughts immediately wandered back to this upon reading RD's last post:Quote"Love is a very powerful force. Even moreso when it's focused into a coherent beam of destruction. Every time i cast hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast."
Yeah, I saw that earlier. I'd say you're definitely living up to the promise. :lmaoMy thoughts immediately wandered back to this upon reading RD's last post:Quote"Love is a very powerful force. Even moreso when it's focused into a coherent beam of destruction. Every time i cast hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast."
See the comment on the previous page about how I'm essentially just playing a somewhat prettier Black Mage. Complete with technically having an enormous intellect, just not using it for anything more profitable than 'blow people up'. :P
And I'm more or less playing Starscream, though there's not really a Megatron to scheme against. :lol
I'm just wondering if there is anything left alive for me to shoot...
Hmm, if we have black mage and thief who am I? ...looks like none of them.
I'm just wondering if there is anything left alive for me to shoot...
Hmm, if we have black mage and thief who am I? ...looks like none of them.
Try Black Belt, White Mage, Sarda, and any of the Light Warriors first. >.>
Given the scenario, we can even rope in the Fiends. Map everyone to 8-Bit Theatre characters!* :lmao
*Everyone in the story is less evil than Black Mage, amusingly. EVERYONE.
I'm just wondering if there is anything left alive for me to shoot...
Hmm, if we have black mage and thief who am I? ...looks like none of them.
Try Black Belt, White Mage, Sarda, and any of the Light Warriors first. >.>
Given the scenario, we can even rope in the Fiends. Map everyone to 8-Bit Theatre characters!* :lmao
*Everyone in the story is less evil than Black Mage, amusingly. EVERYONE.
Nobody in that entire comic uses a bow. :P
I'm just wondering if there is anything left alive for me to shoot...
I should point out that I'll just use the counter that lets me move 6 spellcraft checks in feet away. :lmaoActually you don't have any Item/Spell/Maneuver/Notation of being able to detect the Mind Flayer or negate the Flat-footed condition which, in case you forgot, prevents you from using Immediate Actions.
I should point out that I'll just use the counter that lets me move 6 spellcraft checks in feet away. :lmaoActually you don't have any Item/Spell/Maneuver/Notation of being able to detect the Mind Flayer or negate the Flat-footed condition which, in case you forgot, prevents you from using Immediate Actions.
You can't use your Counter.
I do kinda want to see if she bleeds rainbows tho :p
Not that I'm serious about wanting you to get wrecked, but being attacked by an opponent you have no awareness of even if you've already taken your turn in combat does indeed make one flatfooted against the first attack :x
So it wouldn't be Os ruling against you, its the game actually saying that's how it is...
They changed this in the Rules Compendium. According to it, invisibility does indeed make you flat-footed, not just deny your Dex to AC. This is a change from the core rules. So it depends on what he uses.Not that I'm serious about wanting you to get wrecked, but being attacked by an opponent you have no awareness of even if you've already taken your turn in combat does indeed make one flatfooted against the first attack :x
So it wouldn't be Os ruling against you, its the game actually saying that's how it is...
I think, unless invisibility has specific wording I've forgotten, I get denied Dex to AC--so basically flat-footed AC--but don't count as flat-footed. Flat-footed is either first round before you've had chance to act, or due to specific abilities; it's basically "I'm not ready for a fight". So you can be unable to dodge an attack, but able to reflexively act and do something to not get skewered.
They changed this in the Rules Compendium. According to it, invisibility does indeed make you flat-footed, not just deny your Dex to AC. This is a change from the core rules. So it depends on what he uses.Not that I'm serious about wanting you to get wrecked, but being attacked by an opponent you have no awareness of even if you've already taken your turn in combat does indeed make one flatfooted against the first attack :x
So it wouldn't be Os ruling against you, its the game actually saying that's how it is...
I think, unless invisibility has specific wording I've forgotten, I get denied Dex to AC--so basically flat-footed AC--but don't count as flat-footed. Flat-footed is either first round before you've had chance to act, or due to specific abilities; it's basically "I'm not ready for a fight". So you can be unable to dodge an attack, but able to reflexively act and do something to not get skewered.
This is, at least, a better reason than 'the GM gets to decide when combat ends'. Because in these sorts of circumstances that would be ridiculous. :rolleyesWell technically it's not the RC but the FAQ (as far as I know, page number phae?) and with you being argumentative and whiny I really didn't want to listen to more hate speech.
Any reason Damaros couldn't see the invisible mind flayer, or is that a secret to be found out later?
Any reason Damaros couldn't see the invisible mind flayer, or is that a secret to be found out later?
So I don't believe this ever got answered. Otherwise I'd have posted by now. >_>
*makes a mental note to stand 35ft away from RD's nuke*
Any reason Damaros couldn't see the invisible mind flayer, or is that a secret to be found out later?
So I don't believe this ever got answered. Otherwise I'd have posted by now. >_>
The Mind Flayer is also using an ability to hide on top of being invisible, and I don't see any Spot roll from Damaros as I had requested.
As a reminder: even without the large number boost (which should really have a cap, I didn't expect it to go that high)
Raineh: If I allowed you an immediate move or non-offensive swift action after being hit, would you be able to get out of the way of the majority of the attacks?
Immediate Actions are a pain to deal with in PbP, by the way. >_>
Raineh: If I allowed you an immediate move or non-offensive swift action after being hit, would you be able to get out of the way of the majority of the attacks?
Immediate Actions are a pain to deal with in PbP, by the way. >_>
I think I was basically one hit anyway. Unless I got hit 8 actual times, in which case... uh, yeah, I would've been halfway across the sky. One of my counters determines movement based on a spellcraft check.
It was 8 attacks, however each attack is a grapple attempt. Unless you can beat the first check (that'll be a DC 40 BTW) even if you could move away, the mind flayer would still be attached to you and thus dragged along... I think.Raineh: If I allowed you an immediate move or non-offensive swift action after being hit, would you be able to get out of the way of the majority of the attacks?
Immediate Actions are a pain to deal with in PbP, by the way. >_>
I think I was basically one hit anyway. Unless I got hit 8 actual times, in which case... uh, yeah, I would've been halfway across the sky. One of my counters determines movement based on a spellcraft check.
Btw: I'm assuming that mental shout of 'Thoon' in our heads was telepathic (the fluff made it look like it), in which case I get to burn some more Wis from someone.... so someone is taking 21 Wis damage (or 10 if they're ordinarily immune to ability damage).It was a pimped mind blast. Which is mind-affecting, but not telepathic.
Well, I have a thin chance, since I have a +26...Even the dice are out to get you.
Rolled 1d20+26 : 1 + 26, total 27
Well, I have a thin chance, since I have a +26...Even the dice are out to get you.
Rolled 1d20+26 : 1 + 26, total 27
Os was busy FebruaryGood to know.
I'm pretty sure we're waiting for everyone to link up so we can teleport out of here.
This was discussed briefly in the Jovoc thread (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7293.0), but no definitives were laid out, really.Yeah but D&D multiplies differently than you did (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#multiplying).
I think 'number of creatures' counts as a real world valueI also think the temperature of a Fireball is a real world value. Your point?
All those Jovocs might get caught in the AoEs of everybody else :D
Or atleast Rainy's. She's like nothing but AoEs :lmao
And I want to Breath :O
Actually, getting all those jovocs in the line of fire would work to our benefit. If they all activate aura of retribution, they can rebound the damage to all enemies in range. Namely, the thoon guard and potentially the elder brain.
However, if we could just rush every elder brain and use the same tactic every time, Oslecamo wouldn't bother running the game (or allowing these characters). I'm sure he's got plenty of nasty things planned for us.
Actually, getting all those jovocs in the line of fire would work to our benefit. If they all activate aura of retribution, they can rebound the damage to all enemies in range. Namely, the thoon guard and potentially the elder brain.
However, if we could just rush every elder brain and use the same tactic every time, Oslecamo wouldn't bother running the game (or allowing these characters). I'm sure he's got plenty of nasty things planned for us.
I feel if we can do this at least once, it's fine if we get royally fcked trying to repeat it the next time. Such a stupidly powerful show of power will totally rile up the future enemies :plotting
Since the jovoc ability doesn't say anything to contradict the general multiplying rule, then you'll summon 18 jovocs. Still will be some pretty fireworks.
Nobody expects the post before the quote! :D
Well, I'd have to read the things to see how they've changed, but short of throwing everything out and making a new character, my selection isn't likely to change with a level 19 youkai mage. <.<I could have sworn that said magical artillery last night. In any case, at least both the DM is planning on how to handle it and and the stealth people are reconsidering the usefulness of stealth & assassination when rainbowglowstick throws nuclear warheads.
I've seen from Kbsnbsbnsbsnsbnsnbnbnsbnsbnsbnsbnsnbsnbowl's posts about how well things go when you have casters with 9th level spells deciding to be invisible.It's KSB-Snow-Owl. But most typical Mic-O-Say names are {paint station} + {adjective} + {animal} so I'm not sure it's a snow owl or an owl in the snow through. :plotting
Consideringhow much we're all homebrew classes, why would you have thought he wasn't already going to be throwing tons of cheese at us? :P
So... SorO... can you explain why exactly a 20ML StP Erudite abusing infinite PP loops is acceptable... or, I don't know, a remotely good idea given that it gives Os all the justification to throw every bit of outright cheese at us in return?Because psionics?
So... SorO... can you explain why exactly a 20ML StP Erudite abusing infinite PP loops is acceptable... or, I don't know, a remotely good idea given that it gives Os all the justification to throw every bit of outright cheese at us in return?Because psionics?
Honestly as the others have put, have you seen the homebrew?
You do realize Comet "Blazing Star" lets you infinite cast a single spell as long is it's capable of delaying damage without Metamagic/Class benefits, just pick Shades and you can infinity cast two entire Schools of Magic and that's just one Stance out of a dozen Maneuvers you have on top of Spells. And let's talk about those Spells for a moment, Makai Sign auto twins any single target Spell and so does several Maneuvers. When is said you get 12 Spells what it really means is you get around forty-eight 9th level Spells per day and I sincerely doubt you're unaware of this giving you immobility to leave it and previously established willing to break the crap out of it.
At least I'll have to sink Feats/Items and precious Actions to build a PP supply since it's a given I won't be able to abuse Temporal Acceleration and thanks to UPD the Erudite will have less types of Spells to cast than your mage. You get all of that crap, and more, for free.
I'm doing exactly what it's meant to do. :ehThen the debate is over now isn't it?
I'm doing exactly what it's meant to do. :ehThen the debate is over now isn't it?
Bestow Power, Dweomer of Transference, Mindfeeder, Earth Power, Trigger Power, Psionic Tattoos, Mental Pinnacle, Metaconcert, etc. Nearly free manifestation is what Psionics is meant to do. :eh
Subtle is still perfectly viable, but a build like mine, hinging on getting hit to do damage instead of through some other means, isn't as viable a plan as I had hoped.
Subtle is still perfectly viable, but a build like mine, hinging on getting hit to do damage instead of through some other means, isn't as viable a plan as I had hoped.
I meant more that my subtle 8 attacks a turn glass cannon doesn't seem viable compared to Raineh's nuking.
Subtle is still perfectly viable, but a build like mine, hinging on getting hit to do damage instead of through some other means, isn't as viable a plan as I had hoped.
I meant more that my subtle 8 attacks a turn glass cannon doesn't seem viable compared to Raineh's nuking.
I can see how that would happen given nearly literal glass cannon. Sorry.
(though as an aside, you still have nearly 100HP more. xD)
Subtle is still perfectly viable, but a build like mine, hinging on getting hit to do damage instead of through some other means, isn't as viable a plan as I had hoped.
I meant more that my subtle 8 attacks a turn glass cannon doesn't seem viable compared to Raineh's nuking.
I can see how that would happen given nearly literal glass cannon. Sorry.
(though as an aside, you still have nearly 100HP more. xD)
No worries. Your damage output numbers were just a bit unexpected. :p
Yeah, there is the point that I'm much more survivable (more hp, more AC, better saves, miss chance for all melee and ranged attacks targeting me). That makes me feel better. There's just some toe stepping since ranged damage is all my guy can do, and I'm fine rebuilding into a different role.
I'm just happy I'm the only one in the party that not only can survive friendly fire from rainy, but benifit from it immensely too :D
then bring it up in the thread for LCM rather than trying to use it as justificationYou're looking at it in a selfish way.
I meant more that my subtle 8 attacks a turn glass cannon doesn't seem viable compared to Raineh's nuking.That's because for example as one action the homebrew can quintuple your boom by firing off five freaking Spells in the same Standard Action and it still only uses one Slot. A goddamn Wizard would be hard pressed to even be able cast ten 9th level Spells over the course of the entire day let alone in 12 seconds. :banghead
Erudite is banned, point. Soro is right, psionics are completely borked. Also now LCM explicitly cannot be combined with spells that replicate other spells.Still need to find something that can keep up.
I'll start brainstorming other options for my character. I don't know how good I'll be at helping the rest of the party with death reduction though, I've never been great at playing highly optimized spellcasters.
Erudite is banned, point. Soro is right, psionics are completely borked. Also now LCM explicitly cannot be combined with spells that replicate other spells.Still need to find something that can keep up.
Beholder Mage?
Illithid Savant?
Darklight Wizard?
then bring it up in the thread for LCM rather than trying to use it as justificationYou're looking at it in a selfish way.
So you think you spin it as justification for me to use something a hair closer to that silly homebrew, but on my end it's a desperate attempt to keep up with that damn class that you refuse to help balance or not use even through it's already caused the game to crash once.
That's because for example as one action the homebrew can quintuple your boom by firing off five freaking Spells in the same Standard Action and it still only uses one Slot. A goddamn Wizard would be hard pressed to even be able cast ten 9th level Spells over the course of the entire day let alone in 12 seconds. :banghead
I'll start brainstorming other options for my character. I don't know how good I'll be at helping the rest of the party with death reduction though, I've never been great at playing highly optimized spellcasters.
May I suggest a tank build of your choice with a dip of Chaos Cultist (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=8655.msg138261#msg138261) with the Martyrdom gift (in the Chaos Style options)?
Soro, you keep bringing Stunning Surge in the Magician class, but it only works with melee attacks.What do you think Touch Spells are? And Splitting also says "Any missile fired from a splitting weapon, or an arrow or bolt enchanted with the splitting ability, breaks into two identical missiles before striking the intended target.". Sic: Any missile fired from a splitting weapon breaks into two identical missiles. It'll work just fine with Rays and even Spells with flavor notation of firing something at someone. Allowing WSAs on Spells may seem like a cool idea but the reason it's unique is because everyone else has realized how much text it'd take to construct an idea that limits abuse in the reader's mind.
God is fine. Heck, the whole purpose I wrote the class was for players to use it. I'll even allow corrupted Saint on the basis that all the forces of good are pretty much dead/enslaved and working with Hell and Abyss is a very desesperate measure for very desesperate times.First passing look at it will be Erinyes 8 / Pleasure Devil 3 / Vampire 2 / Corrupted 2 / God 5
I think that you'll already have a pretty stratospheric Charisma score without needing to start bringing in Dragon Magazine cheese.God is fine. Heck, the whole purpose I wrote the class was for players to use it. I'll even allow corrupted Saint on the basis that all the forces of good are pretty much dead/enslaved and working with Hell and Abyss is a very desesperate measure for very desesperate times.First passing look at it will be Erinyes 8 / Pleasure Devil 3 / Vampire 2 / Corrupted 2 / God 5
Domain wise I'll probably invent "Narcissism", "Vampires", "Occult" and whatevs like I've done before. Pretty much Cha++, vamp stuff, and an evil magic domain. It also means my first temptation will be Johova's Witness, "knock knock, you want to let me in..."
Dragon Magazine has a (Meta?)Feat of improves a Ability Bonus received from a Spell you cast by +2. Thought?
I think that you'll already have a pretty stratospheric Charisma score without needing to start bringing in Dragon Magazine cheese.Aww, I appreciate your comment. I doubt I get much more than 50 through. That may seem like a lot but that's only like par+58%.
If this is going to turn into some sort of inter-party one-upmanship I'm not sure if it's going to be the game for me.*shrugs*, it's impossible to out damage the touhou class so I'm playing an entirely different element than combat.
It's not really teamwork if you're bringing a uber diplomancer into a combat-focused party.That's actually the definition of team work. In D&D the ideal party is Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, & Wizard not Wizard, Wizard, Wizard, & Wizard. Each party member covers the others weakness's instead of everyone competing to do the same exact thing. I am now essentially the party's evil Cleric.
Can you stop going on about 'keeping up'? I looked at the rolling thread, ffs; you'd have no difficulty matching the damage output. That train of thought relies entirely on getting AoE-friendly scenarios for the entire thing.:lol
Any thoughts?We fundamentally have a Favored Soul & Sorcerer for a party commit so far and you're fundamentally thinking Monk which should work out pretty well.
So, what does the party actually need to round things out at this point? So far it seems we've got an Uber-Face and a Glass Nuclear Missile. Not much frontline assault it seems,
... would tiefling/ghost/pretty princess get SorO to stop mentioning my character all the time? :rolleyesI can make no promises but it would free your character from being associated with the Youkai of course.
I've been forgotten again! :sobbingNot entirely, :p
So, what does the party actually need to round things out at this point? So far it seems we've got an Uber-Face and a Glass Nuclear Missile. Not much frontline assault it seems,
I've been forgotten again! :sobbing
So, what does the party actually need to round things out at this point? So far it seems we've got an Uber-Face and a Glass Nuclear Missile. Not much frontline assault it seems,
I've been forgotten again! :sobbing
Not much, but we have some! Honestly, I was focusing on those who seemed to be changing characters to some degree or another, and as far as I'm aware, you're keeping your's as-is.
I'm seeing some possible issues with Xixecal staying at Large size, as a lot of its abilities seem to rely on it getting truly massive (or at least, there's much less incentive to use them if you remain smaller). Is it viable to increase up to Huge size, or would that cause too many issues with cramped quarters? One of the benefits of going with something like the Hellfire Wyrm was that it can shapechange into any kind of Devil, which solves its size issue to some degree. A Xixecal is literally a force of nature, and doesn't really change for convenience's sake. It's definitely not one for subtlety, anyway.
I'm seeing some possible issues with Xixecal staying at Large size, as a lot of its abilities seem to rely on it getting truly massive (or at least, there's much less incentive to use them if you remain smaller).Deceivingly Innocent Form (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=526.msg2541#msg2541) to the rescue!
Unlike alternate form and change shape, you retain your full abilities and stats besides your old size modifiers (your natural weapons still deal damage as if you were your previous size). Abilities demanding a certain body part adapt to your deceivingly innocent form, usually by instantly changing shape when needed and then back. So your fingers would extend itself and become razor-sharp if you had claws, your jaw could extend itself to monstruous size if you had a bite attack, and so on. You can also now perform fine manipulation and speak if you couldn't before. You retain any equiped items as long as both your forms had slots for them.All the benefits from being Colossal without the actual Size Modifier tied to it and you can still fit in small doors. :D
Oh yeah, I forgot about thone feats. Let's see what I can put together, then.
Though, Nanshork was also looking at Xixecal as am option, so if he wants to grab it up, I'll look for something else.
I'm waiting to see if everybody stops fighting before figuring out what to play. Go for it!If you don't pick something to give us something to talk about then all we have is to recycle the last conversation or to talk about the weather.
Whatever I do is going to be destructive, whether I keep the magic or go for explosions by expensive shit.
As for me, I think all that's left is to find out from Osle whether Xixecal qualifies on its own or if I need to squish in a fiend level (which mostly feels like slapping a band-aid on the issue since it seemingly fits the fluff in all other ways).