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Class Sources
« on: September 06, 2018, 09:12:55 AM »
I've got a list of classes I was looking for sources on. Some I know, some, not so sure. All classes would be pre-Pathfinder, so are 3rd party or dragon mag.

Open Questions:
Champion of Bane - ?
Vigilant - ?
Minstrel of the Edge - ?
Brawler base class - Appears to be total homebrew?
Favored of Milil - ?

Sorted, Thanks!
Anti Paladin - Dragon Mag #313
Ultimate Ranger - Ultimate series of books, 3rd party
Man at Arms - Mercenaries, 3rd party
Mighty Contender of Kord - Dragon Mag #283
Blood Archer - Evil, 3rd party
Mystic - Dragonlance CS
Noble - Dragonlance CS
Templar - Athas/Dark Sun
Witch - NPC Class, DMG
Battleguard of Tempus - Dragon #317
Nightshade - Dragon Mag #298
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 11:56:53 AM »
A couple of those are the names of Pathfinder classes although I don't know if there are 3rd party 3.5 classes with the same names.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 12:42:05 PM »
These would all be pre-pathfinder and during third edition active development.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 02:41:56 PM »
Champion of Bane - ?
Vigilant - Maybe 3rd Party PF?
Anti Paladin - Dragon Mag #313 per Realmshelp
Ultimate Ranger - Ultimate series of books, 3rd party
Man at Arms - Pathfinder then?
Mighty Contender of Kord - Dragon Mag #283 per Realmshelp
Nightstalker - DL's Races of Ansalon pg153
Blood Archer - 3rd party somewhere
Mystic - Dragonlance Campaign Setting pg47
Noble - Dragonlance Campaign Setting pg50
Templar - Athas/Dark Sun. Did you mean the PrC out of DotF pg72?
Witch - DMG pg175
Minstrel of the Edge - 3rd party Athas Reborn post?
Brawler - Pafthfinder
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 02:48:39 PM »
Nope. Mean man at arms.

Witch is http://www.nwnprc.net/manual/english/content/base_classes/206.html, have no idea where it's from.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 03:10:31 PM »
Witch is http://www.nwnprc.net/manual/english/content/base_classes/206.html, have no idea where it's from.
It's someone's screwed up interpretation of the DMG's Witch. Same Spell List, same Sorcerer Progression, but they added the Wizard's Bonus Feats then tossed other stuff on it because missing the point is what most people do.

Also revised the post a little with some additions. Some of those I don't know.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2018, 07:16:31 PM »
Ultimate Ranger may be this :
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/86486/Ranger-Character-Folio?manufacturers_id=3422
" ... This is the ultimate Ranger class character folio for the Pathfinder system. ... "

Witch?
2nd-ing SorO, and it's been an occasional topic since day 1 of 3.0.
Pathfinder went ahead and made one (quite a daring break with ~tradition) :
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/witch/
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2018, 08:22:44 PM »
Not Pathfinder - as mentioned earlier all of these classes would be pre-Pathfinder existing.

Minstrel of the Edge would have come from another source - the Athas Reborn content is actually mine from ten years ago, but I don't remember where the heck someone else found the class from.

Thanks for all the help so far!

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2018, 01:15:37 PM »
Mongoose did a "Quintessential Witch" for 3.0.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2018, 02:39:44 PM »
Mongoose did a "Quintessential Witch" for 3.0.
I thought the Quintessential books were just support splats, like per-class versions of “Sword & Fist”, etc.?

Edit: So that was just a support book for the DMG Witch, treating it as a full class. I recall there being Quintessential books for each of the PHB core classes.
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2018, 06:23:58 PM »
There is a Man-at-arms prestige class from Mercenaries by Alderac Entertainment Group, pg. 211.

Brawler is a prestige class from The Quintessential Fighter, pg. 15.
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 10:11:35 AM »
Perfect. That's the Man-at-Arms I was looking for.

Another one to toss on the list - Favored of Milil. I believe it's a Dragon Mag.
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2018, 05:11:18 PM »
Ultimate Ranger might be part of an extended series of
Ultimate classes done by an '04 era poster Szatany.

Somebody saved the whole pile, from the wotc-pocalypse.
http://www.thecbg.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ultimate_Classes:Main_Page

His stuff used to be linked on a bunch of general and early c.o. pages.
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2018, 12:29:45 PM »
i would think PBMC would have the most complete reference material
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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2018, 03:09:35 PM »
Ultimate Ranger might be part of an extended series of
Ultimate classes done by an '04 era poster Szatany.

Somebody saved the whole pile, from the wotc-pocalypse.
http://www.thecbg.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ultimate_Classes:Main_Page

His stuff used to be linked on a bunch of general and early c.o. pages.

This is definitely the Ultimate Ranger I was thinking of.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 05:56:40 PM »
 :o

It's ... it's like I got my pseudo-natural Peanut Butter into your Axiomatic-templated Chocolate.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2018, 09:11:19 PM »
:o

It's ... it's like I got my pseudo-natural Peanut Butter into your Axiomatic-templated Chocolate.

 :D

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2018, 02:29:16 AM »
First, you should be a doll and update your list  :P

Blood Archer: PrC, AEG's Evil, p.68
Brawler: PrC, Mongoose's The Quintessential Fighter, p.15
Witch: base class, AEG's Magic, p.133 (wis-based, wizard progression, with weird mechanic and additional power source)

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2019, 04:41:39 PM »
Alright, I'm back with another set of classes, and fully updated the top post so it's clearer.

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Re: Class Sources
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2019, 05:01:24 PM »
The only Brawler class I know is from Pathfinder.