Mythic Sagas: OOC Talk

[dna1]

dna, you can add descriptions to dice rolls by typing: [roll]{Description}dice roll[ /roll]

You know, if you want to. 

Oh thanks, I actually couldn't figure out how to do that lol... 

[ksbsnowowl]

That's what Einar figured, but then again he is something of a Troll Hunter.

Are there any expanded Survival rules for finding out what made tracks, how many, etc?  I'm AFB.

Not official ones, I don't think.

I would typically have someone with the Track feat perform a dual check:
Survival check (ie - a Track check)
Knowledge Check (of the appropriate Knowledge type)

Thorgrim has no knowledge skills, but if Einar would like to give me a Track check and a Knowledge (Nature) check, you might be able to figure out what they are.

[Nanshork]

My poor token Knowledge skills that I only took for synergy bonuses...

(well, and because they were thematically appropriate)

[phaedrusxy]

There certainly used to be some expanded rules on tracking to determine creature type, number of individuals, and even how much weight they were carrying... I think they were in Masters of the Wild (The character that I played the longest in any game was a ranger with a very high (wilderness) survival skill). Sorry, don't have time to check right now, though.

[ksbsnowowl]

There certainly used to be some expanded rules on tracking to determine creature type, number of individuals, and even how much weight they were carrying... I think they were in Masters of the Wild (The character that I played the longest in any game was a ranger with a very high (wilderness) survival skill). Sorry, don't have time to check right now, though.

I can check it when I get home.

Edit:  Masters of the Wild is not the source of what you are remembering.  The only Wilderness Lore alternate is for a quarry to make an opposed WL check to hide his tracks from a tracker.

Edit 2:  If you guys just want to track the trolls back to where they came from, then I just need a series of Track checks (Giant favored enemy bonuses apply).  Four of them should suffice.  I'm going to do a few chores, and if neither SDK or Nanshork have made them by then, I'll likely just roll for them.  Just let me know if tracking the trolls is what you want to do.

[ksbsnowowl]

Unless anyone objects, I'm going to make four Track checks each for Einar and Thorgrim.

[ksbsnowowl]

Skydragonknight, I hope you don't mind my taking control of your character for tracking/skill use purposes.  Finding the right balance for a PbP game is always a little awkward at first.

Edit:  Assuming you guys are heading in, give me a marching order, and tell me who has what light sources.

[phaedrusxy]

Crap... I forgot to pick 0th level spells retrieved! It was so low on the priority list, since I expected I'd be using those slots for 1st level spells, I totally forgot to go back!

I think Light, Detect Magic, and maybe Mending (since it will help my runecasting brothers...) seem totally reasonable... Going with those!

[Risada]

So, we are going in the sneaky way (if we can get darkvision for everyone), or the bright way? I have Ebon Eyes with me, but if I cast it on everyone I will not have any 1st level slots remaining...

[ksbsnowowl]

That's fine, phaedrus.

Try to get me a marching order set up ASAP (assuming you plan to go in).  As soon as I have that (by early tomorrow morning?) I can post the first map.  Unfortunately, map modification will only occur in the mornings and evenings.  So only two or three people will go per day, unless we all happen to be on in the evening.  But that's PbP for you.

Risada, Ebon Eyes is very poorly worded.  Apparently it was originally published in a Dragon mag, and they flubbed it in transferring it to the Spell Compendium, IIRC.  I researched about it while I was intending to use it for one of the bad guys in my home game.

What it is supposed to do is effectively negate the effects of darkness (magical or otherwise) and allow you to see in what would otherwise be the prevailing light conditions.

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing in a sunlit field, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see.
Dwarf under Ebon Eyes is standing in a sunlit field, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see.

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with no equipment in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can't see.
Dwarf under Ebon Eyes is standing with no equipment in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (to the limit of his darkvision).

Human Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with a torch in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (20' radius bright light; 20' radius shadowy illumination).

[Risada]

That's fine, phaedrus.

Try to get me a marching order set up ASAP (assuming you plan to go in).  As soon as I have that (by early tomorrow morning?) I can post the first map.  Unfortunately, map modification will only occur in the mornings and evenings.  So only two or three people will go per day, unless we all happen to be on in the evening.  But that's PbP for you.

Risada, Ebon Eyes is very poorly worded.  Apparently it was originally published in a Dragon mag, and they flubbed it in transferring it to the Spell Compendium, IIRC.  I researched about it while I was intending to use it for one of the bad guys in my home game.

What it is supposed to do is effectively negate the effects of darkness (magical or otherwise) and allow you to see in what would otherwise be the prevailing light conditions.

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing in a sunlit field, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see.
Dwarf under Ebon Eyes is standing in a sunlit field, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see.

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with no equipment in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can't see.
Dwarf under Ebon Eyes is standing with no equipment in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (to the limit of his darkvision).

Human Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with a torch in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (20' radius bright light; 20' radius shadowy illumination).

... Well... True Darkness is coming...

I can go either right after the first person or in charge of protecting phaedrus' squishy back...

[phaedrusxy]

I was thinking of throwing a Light spell on my summoned bird, and sending it in. It will let me get a look around without risking anyone's life, or really letting the trolls know what exactly is going on. Of course, they'll be suspicious when a glowing bird flies in, but that might work to our advantage, if we can bait them outside, instead of rushing into their lair.

Are there enough plants to use Entangle outside the cave? Glad I prepped another BFC spell... It's not as good, but still decent. Thinking of sending the bird, then dropping that spell (Spore Field) inside the entrance if the trolls start coming out. Then hopefully they'll all get piled up in the difficult terrain, and I can start dropping Fireballs on them.

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with a torch in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (20' radius bright light; 20' radius shadowy illumination).

This sounds like an option, too. Would someone outside the Darkness see the light of the torch?

[ksbsnowowl]

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with a torch in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (20' radius bright light; 20' radius shadowy illumination).

This sounds like an option, too. Would someone outside the Darkness see the light of the torch?

Nope.  The magical darkness would obscure it to all without ebon eyes.

The bird that you summon, it is technically a creature, right?  If so, you can't actually cast Light on the bird, but the bird could carry a pebble in its mouth or foot.

[phaedrusxy]

Human under Ebon Eyes is standing with a torch in a passage of the underdark, someone drops a Darkness spell on him = he can see (20' radius bright light; 20' radius shadowy illumination).

This sounds like an option, too. Would someone outside the Darkness see the light of the torch?

Nope.  The magical darkness would obscure it to all without ebon eyes.

The bird that you summon, it is technically a creature, right?  If so, you can't actually cast Light on the bird, but the bird could carry a pebble in its mouth or foot.

Yep.

Awesome for the Ebon Eyes + Darkness + torch thing, then. I think that should be a regular setup we use. Unfortunately, it's not a druid spell... If I bound the Green Lady, I could spam it on everyone, but then we wouldn't have the awesomeness of Malphus' bird.

[Nanshork]

If nothing else Einar has a weapon crystal he can slap onto his sword so that he can see.

Also, ksb feel free to roll any skill checks you feel necessary for me.  I don't mind and it does speed things up significantly.


...actually, Einar hears non-troll victims.  He's going to slap his crystal onto his sword and run on in there, just giving everyone a heads up unless someone quickly comes up with a better plan.  Thorgrim probably remembers how toe-to-toe Einar gets when it comes to combat so at least someone will be prepared for this.

I'll wait until tomorrow to get rash.

[ksbsnowowl]

...actually, Einar hears non-troll victims.  He's going to slap his crystal onto his sword and run on in there, just giving everyone a heads up unless someone quickly comes up with a better plan.  Thorgrim probably remembers how toe-to-toe Einar gets when it comes to combat so at least someone will be prepared for this.

I'll wait until tomorrow to get rash.

Okay, Skulda has stated her plan of sending the Raven in with a light.  But unless I hear different from Nanshork soon, I'll post the initial map (really, whether it is you or the raven depicted on the map doesn't really matter, I suppose, aside from the range of vision) with Einar on it.

[phaedrusxy]

New plan. 

[ksbsnowowl]

New plan. 

And you're making your DM scramble to make a new map...  All that prep to waste!

(Not really, you'll get to see the cave eventually).

[ksbsnowowl]

Everyone with animal friends, please, Please, PLEASE put what it is in the stat block.  Is it a wolf?  Is it a wolverine?  Is it a Red Dragon in disguise?  I need to know these things.

A stat block that looks like this:

Rumplestarvenblot
Medium Animal
...

...doesn't tell me much of anything.

I need to know what it is:

Rumplestarvenblot
Wolf (advanced)
Medium Animal
...

That tells me a lot more (like what kind of token to give it on the battle map )

Edit: Also, if you're going to use a different character sheet lay-out than the one I gave as an example, please make sure it has all the same relevant info.  dna1, your sheet, so far as I can tell, does not list what languages you know.

[ksbsnowowl]

Made a minor adjustment to the initial map, given Agni's stated course of action.

If everyone gets their readied actions declared before I get home, we'll start resolving them in the order they were declared, and people will have to keep in mind where people have said they've moved on the map, etc, until I can update it this evening.