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Offline phaedrusxy

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PF Druid
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:24:55 AM »
I've been working on this guy, and thought I'd see if anyone has any further thoughts on him. I know it's probably more optimal to boost his Str and ditch the Guided Amulet of Mighty Fists, but I like the idea of using Wisdom for attack and damage. I'd like to use giant octopus form all the time, but haven't seen an easy way to give it air-breathing in PF.

Hitpoints: 52
Race: Half-elf (Water Child)
Classes: Druid (Storm-Cloud) 7
AL: Neutral Good
Ini: +5, Speed: 30 ft.
AC: [ooc=19]10+3dex+4armor+1luck+1defl[/ooc], Touch: 15, Flat-footed: 16
Fort: [ooc=+7]5base+2con[/ooc], Ref: [ooc=+5]2base+3dex[/ooc], Will: [ooc=+11]5base+6wis[/ooc]
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Abilities: Str 10, Dex 16, Con 14, Int 12, Wis [ooc=23]18base+2race+1lvl+2enh[/ooc], Cha 10

Feats: Improved Initiative (1), Skill Focus (Perception)(half-elf bonus), Combat Reflexes (3), Natural Spell (5), Wild Speech (7)

Traits: Elven Reflexes, Lessons of Faith

Racial Traits: Water Child (can always take 10 on swim, +4 racial bonus, Aquan as possible language)
Favored Class: Druid (elf, +1/3 natural AC when Wildshaped)

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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 05:13:20 PM »
Wild Speech ... meaning Natural Spell wasn't quite good enough ?!
Niice, but I'd assume somebody in the party is crafting stuff, just for you.

Some of the links have an extra http and a %22 tagged onto them.

So I never bothered with trying to figure out PF combat stuff,
but some of it must dovetail with a wildshape Druid differently
and better (!) than say a quickstart 3.5 Druid.
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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2014, 07:06:37 PM »
As mentioned above, all of your links have %22 at the beginning and " at the end, which make them fail. Odd.

What are you trying to do with the druid exactly? Casting druid, shape shifted striker, tank? All of the above? Is it an aquatic campaign, hence the water theme with the octopus focus?

Wisdom to Hit/DMG is cool, worth the price. If you are going this route, may I ask why not a dip into monk? 2 levels will get you Evasion, along with a +6 to AC from that 23 Wisdom. Would affect your ability to shape shift *now* but would grant you Stunning fist, Evasion, and bump your AC to a 25/21/22. Leaving you with 3rd level spells for the moment. With your Favored class, when you hit level 8 and start shifting, you hit an AC of 27 before you factor in the benefits of whatever form you take. Which is a very nice AC to be sitting at at that level.

If you don't go that route, focusing on a caster type druid, if that is your choice, you've got a good base for feats for all purpose. Ability to shape shift while casting and talking, go. Your Initiative should be 10 on your statblock, which is good if you want to strike first, or buff first. SF: Perception will let you spot the enemy, that's good to have on a nature type. However, you have nothing to augment your spells beyond the Minor Rod of Extend listed here. Which makes me think the spells aren't your focus, and the shape shifted combat is. If you don't go with a dip into monk, the Wisdom synergy drops, but you still have your setup there. Your spells aren't looking to be setup as nuke type spells, so the DC's will be reasonable for the disables you got at least.

I am running a high powered gestalt game, with a player using a Giant Templated Dwarf Admixture Evoker 1/Monk 4//Druid 6 setup, essentially a Jedi Bear. He breaks out his flame blade to slice through the enemy when he can't hit the AC of my heavily armored critters in wild shape form. His to hit is sitting right about where yours is now. I highly doubt the game you are in will make you cope with what I am making my players cope with, but anything heavily armored (My critters are corpse crafted skeleton champions in full plate with tower shields and shield focus, AC 29 and higher depending on Dex and armor enchantments) you will struggle to touch. Given that, would ditch Flaming sphere in favor of Flame blade, or if you are truly attached to it, ditch one of the other prepared spells. This way, you can swing at something that is just shrugging off your attacks still doing fire damage with attacks.

HP is 18 points below Max HP for your Class/Level. That will be rough with your AC if you leap into melee regularly.

Saves are decent, but only the Will save is good. If you ditch the Cloak, Hand of the Mage, Gloves, and the +1 Init Ioun stone, you can afford a Cloak of Resistance +2. Granting 9/7/13 saves.

Suggestion: You have the capability to make a lot of this gear yourself with Craft Wonderous if the DM will let you craft before hand. Your spellcraft would be an 11 I believe? Could make your Cloak of Resistance for 2k, Amulet of Might Fists for 2k, Helm for 2500, Headband for 2250, might have to eat the Haversack due to the non-spell list requirement and DC but swapping out one of those feats would allow you to get better gear. If your DM allows pre-start crafting anyhow.

Boils down to: If you aren't dead set on the spell casting being your main focus, I will suggest swapping some of the items you have for a better set of saving throws/AC and dipping into one or two levels of monk. One gets that +6 to AC, two gets Evasion. Making a spellcasting tank in whatever form you grab. Putting your AC at 21 even without Mage Armor up. If you can craft your own starting items pre-start, it's not a terrible idea. Will let you get the items, and delaying say Wild Speech for 2 levels is doable.




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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 09:07:49 PM »
Game already started, fellas. I wound up trading out Wild Speech for Multiattack, and am using the Prestidigitation at will from the Cloak of the Hedge Wizard to "talk" by writing glowing words in the air. :D If I need to use a wand or something, I'll cast Beastspeech. I'd rather burn an occasional spellslot than a feat.
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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2014, 01:16:07 AM »
Phae, MMB handles urls and links differently than GitP does.  Quotes on these forums break the links, thus all your links are broken.  All you need is [ url=plain url]name[/ url] without the spaces. 
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[url=http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php]Like this[/url]
And yeah, it seems burning the occasional spell would be better than using the feat slot if the use won't come up so often.

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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2014, 07:03:41 AM »
Instead of
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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2014, 10:06:42 AM »
I just didn't have the time/impetus to fix the links, as last week was finals week. :p Fixed now.

His HP are a bit low, but I think I'll be fine with 20' reach and being able to see through clouds. The general strategy I have in mind is Solid Fog + pick things off that get near the edge. The PCs in the game aren't super optimized anyway.

The main problem is going to be against things with damage reduction, I think. With no easy way to beat it, most of my damage will be nullified against anything with DR 10. Druids don't get the Align Weapon spell and we don't have a cleric. I expect we'll be fighting at least a moderate amount of evil outsiders, maybe a lot later. (First encounter included a succubus)
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Re: PF Druid
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 03:37:24 PM »
The original game died, but I've reincarnated this guy for a new game. Hopefully it lasts longer. :D
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