Discussion

[Agita]

What better way to inaugurate a new forum than trite spam?

[Bozwevial]

First post for Lancer luck.

[Agita]

So I guess we might as well use this to discuss stuff.
Stuff like "Grail War where" and "what timeline" would be good starting points, perhaps.

[Bozwevial]

As I recall, we were looking at an alt-timeline Fourth or Fifth War, presumably in Fuyuki. I've no problems with that, but if you two would rather we have something different, I can oblige.

[veekie]

Fuyuki is fine, it's kinda been wrecked up good previously already, so any structures can be where convenient. Kinda like the idea of Fifth after a different Fourth War.

[Agita]

Fuyuki is fine, it's kinda been wrecked up good previously already, so any structures can be where convenient. Kinda like the idea of Fifth after a different Fourth War.

I'm good with this.
Another relevant consideration is when the timeline splits. Boz mentioned possible merits of having the Grail not necessarily tainted, I believe.

[veekie]

In either case that's not necessary to be known by us so...

[Bozwevial]

There are benefits to both. Untainted Grail means the end game isn't set in stone and we aren't treading such familiar ground, but a tainted Grail allows for the summoning of villainous spirits.

But veekie's right, the eventual decision doesn't necessarily have to be known to you lot, especially depending on how we tweak the timeline.

[Agita]

True enough. I was mostly thinking in terms of issues from the game creation chapter there, of which the Grail War itself already gives us one.

[Bozwevial]

Yeah, Fuyuki is really more of a backdrop for Grail Wars rather than a city with issues to be dealt with in its own right. Which is perfectly fine for this game, because it's highly unlikely elapsed time IC will go for more than a week. Couple that with most of the interactions between Master-Servant pairs happening at night, and the city only really needs that one issue.

[Agita]

Locations within Fuyuki can still be important in that they're where shit happens, but I suppose they're just as easy to do on the fly.
Another thing I'm wondering about is character creation in general and aspects specifically. Veekie had a pretty solid idea for the Refresh deal on Masters and Servants, I believe.The First Adventure and guest starring phases are slightly inapplicable given that we're just two players and the "first adventure with the other PC" is the point of the plot. Using DFRPG's background/conflict/adventure might work better (though the last one can still be a linked aspect, to keep the connection part intact)?
Nasuverse magic, as we might have discussed in chat (I know I talked about it with veekie), is probably best represented as stunts for specific purposes.

[veekie]

We could find out if the Grail is tainted the first time we run into a monster/antihero Servant.

Got an idea for Guest Starring through. Formative experiences. For Servants, that'd be the Legend Founding Events(and thus, Noble Phantasm hook ins), so that's already determined for the most part. The Master would be a bit trickier.

[Bozwevial]

If nothing else we could always trim down the number of aspects. Fate Core has five per character instead of the seven DFRPG uses.

[Agita]

We could find out if the Grail is tainted the first time we run into a monster/antihero Servant.

Got an idea for Guest Starring through. Formative experiences. For Servants, that'd be the Legend Founding Events(and thus, Noble Phantasm hook ins), so that's already determined for the most part. The Master would be a bit trickier.

For the Master, I figure I can do the old thing of childhood, some sort of conflict, and an adventure. In the context of this game specifically, I could make the first about the family, some aspect of upbringing, or perhaps a gimmick of the character's magic or Origin, the second about being un-crested (although this might be better as a Trouble), and the third about Suddenly Master or something. It's not perfect, but I'd probably think of something.

[Bozwevial]

So you've got your high concept, your trouble, and then three formative experiences in place of guest starring. Sounds workable to me.

As far as refresh and skills go, what sounds good to you? I was thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 refresh, which is a fair amount considering it's mostly getting spent on stunts and whatnot. Servants buy down to the wire, Masters can but are probably not going to because they provide prana to the Servant anyway.

[veekie]

Hmm, would need to experiment to see if 10 refresh covers enough.

[Bozwevial]

Going by last night's discussion, 10 refresh seems about right. As for skill points, 25? 30?

Edit: Tentatively 25 with the cap at +4 for Masters and +5 for Servants.

[Prime32]

Probably has some grammatical errors:

Tusa bunús, a airgead, a iarann.
A bhunchloch is a Conradh n-Ardtírne
Éist liom in ainm an máistir mór, atá ár sinsear Schweinorg
Go dtimpeallaítear ón gaoth aníos.
Go ndúna na geata i ngach treo, ag ardú ó gcoróin, agus téigh ar na trí bhóthar gabhlaithe chuigh an ríocht.

Dún (luchtaigh). Dún (luchtaigh). Dún (luchtaigh). Dún (luchtaigh). Dún (luchtaigh).
Go dtarlaí sé cúig huaire,
Ach bí briste nuair a bhíonn sé iomlán.
Comharthaím,
Go raibh do chorp agam, go raibh mo chinniúint ag do chlaíomh.
Má géillean tú chuig an Soitheach, agus má leanfá an intinn seo, ansin freagair dom.
Geallaim,
Beidh mé gach maith ar fud sa domhain. Impróidh mé gach olc ar fud sa domhain.
(Ach, go dteimhlí anord do súile,
Tusa, faoi cheangal caighean de buile
Smachtaím na slabhra seo)
Tusa, seacht flaithis agus trí focail cumhachta ort,
Tar amach as an fáinne ceangailteach, a Choimirceoir de na Meá!

[Prime32]

Ransaa


EDIT:Risha

[Bozwevial]

To clarify, it does happen to be a school morning, if you care about that sort of thing enough to go. Fate demands that if you do, however, you cook much fancier foods than toast to hold in your mouth as you run.