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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2012, 03:11:59 PM »
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Im short a level? Well, maybe I will redo my build after all...


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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2012, 03:13:47 PM »
Hahaha okay, totally missed that, I'll get something up as soon as I can.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2012, 05:55:53 PM »
Is it cool if I post on min/max for build help? I'm still thinking factotum, but I idk what I want the build to accomplish.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2012, 06:16:29 PM »
flaws yay or nay?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2012, 06:38:42 PM »
sirpercival: Dark Way, SpC pg 58, Illusion (Shadow), Bard 2, Cleric 2, Sorc/Wiz 2

Actually, NeoN -- if I can qualify by Heightening Dark Way, then we don't need the Shadow domain.

Are you okay with Retraining?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2012, 06:39:27 PM »
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Is it cool if I post on min/max for build help? I'm still thinking factotum, but I idk what I want the build to accomplish.

If you really want to.

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flaws yay or nay?

I have read and been told that they are broken beyond belief, but have no idea why, must be lack of contact. If someone can elaborate I can consider allowing the Alt rule :)

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Actually, NeoN -- if I can qualify by Heightening Dark Way, then we don't need the Shadow domain.
Okay De-shadowed

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Are you okay with Retraining?
Actually in what form?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2012, 06:43:31 PM »
Retraining essentially lets you repick feats that you took earlier.  It allow me to qualify for Divine Prankster one level early by taking the Favored and Primary Contact feats to get 1 bonus skill rank, and then swap those feats later on when I qualified for the PrC outright.

Basically it's the difference between my build being Cleric 4/Divine Prankster 3/ScM 3 vs Cleric 5/DP 2/ScM 3.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2012, 06:45:27 PM »
People say they are broken beyond belief because they give a free feat at the cost of a (very) small penalty. Personally, I've never seen them 'break' a campaign, and in all honesty, unless I was intentionally going for a low powered game, I always allow them.

Edit: Would Avenger or assassin fit better in the campaign?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2012, 06:50:50 PM »
People say they are broken beyond belief because they give a free feat at the cost of a (very) small penalty. Personally, I've never seen them 'break' a campaign, and in all honesty, unless I was intentionally going for a low powered game, I always allow them.

If you want to break a campaign you dont need flaws to do it :tongue

flaws

Some things i wanted to ask:
Is vow of poverty ok?it is a feat from book of exalted deeds which would disallow me the possession of equipment for other bonuses.

Furthermore how would you rule which monsters I know to morph into?Knowledge checks or a set number of monsters I can choose from per level for example?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2012, 06:52:35 PM »
Nope, just have to be a little creative
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2012, 06:58:07 PM »
:SirP:

Yep, just post both sets of feats in the char sheet as a side note, and the levels when exchanged.

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flaws yay or nay

Kay

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Would Avenger or assassin fit better in the campaign?

They look identical with fluff reworks from my standing point. Interesting
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2012, 07:02:30 PM »
They are, hense my know nothing about the setting, so would Good or Evil fit better?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2012, 07:09:46 PM »
:SirP:

Yep, just post both sets of feats in the char sheet as a side note, and the levels when exchanged.

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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2012, 07:11:50 PM »
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Is vow of poverty ok
ok, Vow Of Poverty.

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Furthermore how would you rule which monsters I know to morph into?Knowledge checks or a set number of monsters I can choose from per level for example?

What is your HD?

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They are, hense my know nothing about the setting, so would Good or Evil fit better?
Good would fit better, but it is honestly up to you.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2012, 07:14:38 PM »
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Furthermore how would you rule which monsters I know to morph into?Knowledge checks or a set number of monsters I can choose from per level for example?

What is your HD?


sarcasm?Anyway, I am asking because I can only morph into monsters my character knows of.I am totally fine with every monster availably ^^"
Some gms dont like that a character knows every monster available so I just asked to be on the safe side.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2012, 07:16:17 PM »
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27 + (Wis mod*HD)
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2012, 07:17:24 PM »
okay, how does factotum 8+ avenger 2 look? Am I going to be powerful enough?
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2012, 07:33:28 PM »
:edit:
27 + (Wis mod*HD)

so assuming I got 16 wis I would have an "pool"of 57 creatures?Sounds fair.
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2012, 07:39:41 PM »
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okay, how does factotum 8+ avenger 2 look? Am I going to be powerful enough?

Possibly, but it deems on what you define power as  :plotting


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so assuming I got 16 wis I would have an "pool"of 57 creatures?Sounds fair.

Yep beats a know check for every creature concievable. once. And if you get to the 57 cap you will recieve surprise on my part :P
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Re: [3.5] Any Interest In ToH?
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2012, 07:41:01 PM »
Actually, I don't need to do any retraining.  With DMM: Heighten I can qualify for ScM at Clr 3, so that makes it trivial.

EDIT: Do nightsticks stack?

EDIT2: Crap!  I need to find a way to get Sleight of Hand as a class skill...

EDIT3: Would you allow the Skill Knowledge feat?
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