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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #160 on: May 05, 2013, 03:54:08 PM »
I wanna know - is there an option for amplifying spells through your mecha? I can probably do some wicked stuff if there is.

You mean besides the Arcane and Divine Pilot classes?

Possibly. I'm actually not entirely sure what the classes do for that.
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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #161 on: May 05, 2013, 04:08:58 PM »
There's the Amplifier Accessory. 50 space, lets you use SLA's etc. through mecha.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #162 on: May 05, 2013, 04:15:44 PM »
Point me towards it if you'd be so kind?
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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #163 on: May 05, 2013, 04:17:59 PM »
Amplifier is in the Arsenal post under accessories, but it doesn't work for spells.

You'd want to check with Oslecamo but my reading of the Arcane/Divine Robot class features is that they let you channel any spells of that type you cast through the mecha, not just the ones obtained from the pilot class.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #164 on: May 05, 2013, 07:02:11 PM »
Harald: In case you missed it, you need to make your ship at least colossal size for it to be able to carry the current party's mechas.

It does, though it feels more like it's on the arcane side of things.

EDIT: Hey Osle? I think I'm screwed when it comes to Spirits. I'm a Divine Pilot 8/Super Pilot 4, so neither SP nor RP are my highest level classes. Do I have to eat the increased cost either way?
You'll count as a RP for spirit purposes.

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Clarified that when the Fusion Golem's composite Plating doubles "any" DR you have, it means just DR gained from the Half-Golem and Fusion Golem levels.
And does the Plating super robot upgrade increase any DR possessed by 1?
No, it specifically says the DR of the Super Robot increases.


Amplifier is in the Arsenal post under accessories, but it doesn't work for spells.

You'd want to check with Oslecamo but my reading of the Arcane/Divine Robot class features is that they let you channel any spells of that type you cast through the mecha, not just the ones obtained from the pilot class.
Divine pilot's mecha can channel divine spells, Arcane Robot's mecha can channel arcane spells.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #165 on: May 05, 2013, 07:27:06 PM »
Awww fork.

Can I get it to work for Arcane spells instead?  :-\
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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #166 on: May 05, 2013, 09:57:23 PM »
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No, it specifically says the DR of the Super Robot increases.
Indeed, but they also receive self-buffing class abilities, which includes DR. The DR also becomes its own, so it could technically improve it.
But if you want it to only improve the DR it gains from its base stats and arsenal goodies, then fine by me.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #167 on: May 06, 2013, 09:48:10 AM »
I'll change the Götterdämmerung to allow everyone to fit in there.
"-Lady-Captain, we detect 20 hostile vessels against us,  and Erasmus Haarlock's Spear of Destiny ! What are your orders ?
-RAMMING SPEED !

final result : 6 slaughts vessels, 4 imperial frigates, 2 imperial cruisers destroyed. Haarlock sent into the warp. 0 losses. Flawless Victory.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #168 on: May 06, 2013, 09:57:02 AM »
Secret Page spellbook filling. Yay/nay?
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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #169 on: May 06, 2013, 10:14:49 AM »
I must apologise for the difficulty we shall have at level 16: the Yatagarasu gets bigger. Again. Maybe it'll ride on the ship?

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #170 on: May 06, 2013, 10:20:17 AM »
We'll buy a side car for your robot :p
"-Lady-Captain, we detect 20 hostile vessels against us,  and Erasmus Haarlock's Spear of Destiny ! What are your orders ?
-RAMMING SPEED !

final result : 6 slaughts vessels, 4 imperial frigates, 2 imperial cruisers destroyed. Haarlock sent into the warp. 0 losses. Flawless Victory.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #171 on: May 06, 2013, 11:00:10 AM »
I must apologise for the difficulty we shall have at level 16: the Yatagarasu gets bigger. Again. Maybe it'll ride on the ship?

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #172 on: May 06, 2013, 04:46:47 PM »
Awww fork.

Can I get it to work for Arcane spells instead?  :-\
No, sorry.

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No, it specifically says the DR of the Super Robot increases.
Indeed, but they also receive self-buffing class abilities, which includes DR. The DR also becomes its own, so it could technically improve it.
That way lies madness. By your reading, you could then further argue that the Super Robot plating upgrade keeps applying to your personal DR again and again until it reaches infinite.

However, each Plating upgrade only applies once, so either it applies to the Super Robot itself, in which case it becomes a fixed value and overalps with your own DR, or you apply it to your personal DR when leveling up inside your mecha, in which case it stops working as soon as you exit, never to work again. I believe you would prefer the first choice.

Secret Page spellbook filling. Yay/nay?
I really don't even know what makes people think you can use Secret Page to write wizard spells.

Secret Page just changes the looks. But looks alone do not a spellbook page make. You specifically need special materials to make them good enough to prepare spells. Otherwise you could just cast a single Silent Image each morning to replicate the full library of wizard spells.

I must apologise for the difficulty we shall have at level 16: the Yatagarasu gets bigger. Again. Maybe it'll ride on the ship?

Ship as a surfboard.
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I aprove of this. :p

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #173 on: May 06, 2013, 04:51:45 PM »
How many total comm devices is Aden giving to other characters?

So far I've got:

Raineh/Amaterasu
Ketaro/Katherine
Harld/Abraxax?

Anyone else?

Awww fork.

Can I get it to work for Arcane spells instead?  :-\

Could you take Arcane Pilot over Divine Pilot? Or dip 1 level of Arcane Pilot?

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #174 on: May 06, 2013, 05:23:10 PM »
Awww fork.

Can I get it to work for Arcane spells instead?  :-\

Could you take Arcane Pilot over Divine Pilot? Or dip 1 level of Arcane Pilot?
That would work. Get both classes and you can channel both arcane and divine spells.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #175 on: May 06, 2013, 05:36:30 PM »
Assuming Kuroimaken is still going with Divine 8/Super 4, replacing 1 (or more) level(s) of Super with Arcane would seem like a reasonable plan. As per the ruling here Arcane levels would grant the same bonuses to the robot as Super levels.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #176 on: May 06, 2013, 07:36:13 PM »
Assuming Kuroimaken is still going with Divine 8/Super 4, replacing 1 (or more) level(s) of Super with Arcane would seem like a reasonable plan. As per the ruling here Arcane levels would grant the same bonuses to the robot as Super levels.
That works perfectly, actually, since I had NO IDEA what I was going to use for the Arsenal I ability.

More to the point, I wanted to give that high Wis meaning. I picked it up because of Divine Disciple, so...
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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #177 on: May 06, 2013, 07:52:17 PM »
Divine Robot grants arsenal access the same way Real Robot does (only with half capacity) so Divine Pilot 8 gives you Arsenal III and, if you go with an Alteisen or a WeissWritter, 62.5 arsenal space.

If you don't have any other plans for it, I would recomend the Fission System for Reactor II, and possibly the Hybrid Armor for an armor, DR, and Fort save boost.

That leaves 12 space which is enough for Ablative Plates for 9 extra HP and a Cartridge because it only costs 2 space. Which reminds me, I need to put ablative plates on Aden's mecha. 

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #178 on: May 06, 2013, 10:04:51 PM »
For Flaw selection, do we have to assume that they were acquired at 1st level or are we allowed to gain flaws after, as per the DM-decision clause?

I know we can have feats we don't qualify for (they do nothing until you qualify) but I prefer to have the character choose feats it would have been able to use when it acquired them.

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Re: High-End OOC thread
« Reply #179 on: May 06, 2013, 10:21:03 PM »
I know we can have feats we don't qualify for (they do nothing until you qualify)

Is this a published rule or a house rule? And where is it published/posted?