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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2013, 10:11:48 PM »
Sheet (haven't had a chance to move it to Mythweavers yet, but I'll get on that asap)
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Need to finish equipment and calculate Hit Points (how are we doing that, by the way?), and it would be nice if somebody audited my sheet to make sure I'm not doing anything dumb.  Otherwise, I'm pretty much set.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2013, 11:32:15 PM »
K guys it's Friday, our group will be:

linklord - Alphonse Ducart - Azurin Totemist
zook1 - Sparrow Hengeyokai Scout
scout - Kalashtar Soulbow
brujon - Anthropomorphic Octopus
phaedrus - Glimmerfolk Bard
prof gear - Kobold TBA


I will make a new thread here shortly with a bit more starting info and backstory. Feel free to keep posting here as well though.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2013, 11:44:17 PM »
WOot! :D

I just finally looked at the half-elf bard soothing voice substitution level, and wow... how awesome is that? (look here if you haven't seen it) Especially with the Requiem feat in a Ravenloft game... I think it's worth being a half-elf for... (and giving up my Alter Self outsider cheese...). The thing I really love is that you can use it on enemies to make them chill out, or on allies to break Fear, Confusion, and a few other effects. So it's multipurpose awesomeness! I still like my backstory, though. So maybe I'll say my character is a half-glimmerling (just use half-elf stats, but refluff, since they basically look like elves, anyway.) That OK?

Also, Eberron Campaign Setting 34 states a Bard may take the Song of the Heart feat in place of a new form of Bardic Music at level 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, or 18.  Since these are "bonus feats," you can debatably skip the prereqs. So is it possible to trade out Inspire Competence for this at level 3 (Inspire Competence is normally a prereq)?

Also, the Masterwork Horn, Natural (from the Breaking Down Inspire Courage handbook) seems to have only been printed in a 3.0 source (song and silence). Is this OK to use? Or does someone know if it was reprinted somewhere else? (It costs 100 gp, and boosts the attack and damage bonus from Inspire Courage by 1, but penalizes those affected by it to Fear effects by -2).

And is the Magic-blooded (Spark) template OK? IIRC, it is from Dragon Magazine, but is 3.0 (3 of the SLAs were combined into one spell in 3.5).
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2013, 12:07:27 AM »
+1 WOot

I'm gonna finish up my sheet tonight or tmw morning

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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2013, 01:10:03 AM »
Much thanks for choosing me! I'm almost done with my sheet, but i'll have it up tomorrow for sure :D
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2013, 01:24:17 PM »
So... it looks like Barovians are superstitious and xenophobic as hell, and the country is almost 100% human... Also, their ruler hates the guy we're working for. So... we're going to have to keep ultralow profiles somehow, despite having an octopus and kobold among us... (at least as a half-elf I can cover my ears up with a hat or something :P ).

They also think all arcane magic is of demonic origin. Yay, fun! :P
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2013, 05:03:23 PM »
could i choose Magical Training (anagakok wizard)? its a specialist wizard (Dr344, pg 105) that gains some druid spells. i was hoping i could use this to gain the Fire Eyes spell
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2013, 02:18:41 AM »
So... it looks like Barovians are superstitious and xenophobic as hell, and the country is almost 100% human... Also, their ruler hates the guy we're working for. So... we're going to have to keep ultralow profiles somehow, despite having an octopus and kobold among us... (at least as a half-elf I can cover my ears up with a hat or something :P ).

They also think all arcane magic is of demonic origin. Yay, fun! :P
WOot! :D

I just finally looked at the half-elf bard soothing voice substitution level, and wow... how awesome is that? (look here if you haven't seen it) Especially with the Requiem feat in a Ravenloft game... I think it's worth being a half-elf for... (and giving up my Alter Self outsider cheese...). The thing I really love is that you can use it on enemies to make them chill out, or on allies to break Fear, Confusion, and a few other effects. So it's multipurpose awesomeness! I still like my backstory, though. So maybe I'll say my character is a half-glimmerling (just use half-elf stats, but refluff, since they basically look like elves, anyway.) That OK?

Also, Eberron Campaign Setting 34 states a Bard may take the Song of the Heart feat in place of a new form of Bardic Music at level 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, or 18.  Since these are "bonus feats," you can debatably skip the prereqs. So is it possible to trade out Inspire Competence for this at level 3 (Inspire Competence is normally a prereq)?

Also, the Masterwork Horn, Natural (from the Breaking Down Inspire Courage handbook) seems to have only been printed in a 3.0 source (song and silence). Is this OK to use? Or does someone know if it was reprinted somewhere else? (It costs 100 gp, and boosts the attack and damage bonus from Inspire Courage by 1, but penalizes those affected by it to Fear effects by -2).

And is the Magic-blooded (Spark) template OK? IIRC, it is from Dragon Magazine, but is 3.0 (3 of the SLAs were combined into one spell in 3.5).

K so the horn is a go. Yes you can swap song of heart for inspire confidence.
Magic-Blooded is allowed as well.

As for the Barovia post you right. They are superstitious and xenophobic as hell lol. I did warn that several times.. I assume that the non-humanoid looking players will have some way of blending in. Hiding out in the woods isn't always the best option in Ravenloft  :devil
That type of thing wasn't really a problem in Richemulot. I'm sure you guys will figure out something though.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2013, 02:36:36 PM »
Guys, I'm more worried about our alignments. I mean, I know we got together for a common goal, but a good character would never serve an evil master. My character is lawful neutral, but he's only lawful because I intend to go into Kensai. So maybe we could align our alignments to reduce in-group trouble? What do you think? I can drop the lawful part if needed.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2013, 02:51:44 PM »
Guys, I'm more worried about our alignments. I mean, I know we got together for a common goal, but a good character would never serve an evil master. My character is lawful neutral, but he's only lawful because I intend to go into Kensai. So maybe we could align our alignments to reduce in-group trouble? What do you think? I can drop the lawful part if needed.
I plan on being CG. While LN and CG characters might have some philosophical differences, I don't think they'd necessarily be incapable of working together.

I'm not sure at all that the bolded part is true. Only paladins have that spelled out, and clerics might "fall from grace". Most other characters can do what they want, as long as they can rationalize it out for themselves.  :devil

Since dna1 OK'd getting Song of the Heart as a bonus feat at 3rd, I found myself with an open feat slot and a burning desire to fill it with Dragonfire Inspiration. The only way I could really see doing that, without wasting a feat, was to have my half-elf become a dragonborn... So it looks like I'll be picking up a Hat of Disguise.  :lmao I'd urge you other non-human looking freaks to do the same. :D
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
CG here
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2013, 03:21:05 PM »
No, I didn't mean we won't be able to work together. I'll do my best to do it even if I have to make my character do something he wouldn't normally do. But if Azalin asks my character to betray someone, he'll probably not do it.
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« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2013, 03:42:54 PM »
Guys, I'm more worried about our alignments. I mean, I know we got together for a common goal, but a good character would never serve an evil master. My character is lawful neutral, but he's only lawful because I intend to go into Kensai. So maybe we could align our alignments to reduce in-group trouble? What do you think? I can drop the lawful part if needed.

Well as Phae mentioned the only one who has that 'set in stone' are the Paladins. But you're not really looking at the bigger picture here.

The way I rationalize it is.
You're Trapped. Abducted. You were taken to a strange land, that is inherently evil. Villages of scared peasants huddle together for safety, frightened of every shadow in the night. This place is so bad that even the animals start to get corrupted. Wizards familiars get so jealous they have been known to try and kill there own masters friends.
The Mists in Ravenloft are choking the land. Tainting and Corrupting everything. Those who are strong can resist for awhile.. But in time the Dark Powers seep into everything.
I think that the urge to leave would be pretty strong. Probably turning into a obsession. In Ravenloft if you expect to live, you will probably need help. I think it would be perfectly reasonable to lower your standards a bit.
Whats worse.. putting aside your differences, and working with people who you normally wouldn't associate with. Or staying in Ravenloft and eventually being corrupted. Turning into god knows what... Something definitely worse than any of the people you're working with.
If anything it would be easy assume that your evil friends, are just being corrupted by Ravenloft faster than you are.
As far as working with Azalin. You actually haven't met him yet, only been working with his people. Plus Azalin is strong enough that if he wanted any of you dead, he wouldn't need to ask any of you to do it for him. So I wouldn't be concerned about that  :D

And yea for monstrous characters, I would definitely think of something to blend in. such as a hat of disguise. There are certain areas where its smart to stay in town.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2013, 03:49:50 PM »
That's the good thing about being a hengeyokai, avoiding strange looks
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2013, 04:06:35 PM »
If anything it would be easy assume that your evil friends, are just being corrupted by Ravenloft faster than you are.

I really like this idea! If everyone is slowly falling to corruption, Riek would feel the urge to get everyone out as fast as possible even if it means working with bad guys.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2013, 11:03:13 PM »
dna1: Reading a bit more into the Ravenloft background and setting, i saw that, for Psionic characters, Ravenloft is truly a very, very dire place. The Elder Brain seeks to integrate every Psionically inclined mind into itself, and will not stop until it succeeds... It also creates many "Frenzied Berserker" kinds of situations. Would the Calm Emotions spell or some such variation help overcome when the reality of Bluetspur is superimposed as the Elder Brain tries to integrate my consciousness? Also, because of this fact, i was thinking of including into my background some kind of story with the Living Brain that runs the psionic crime ring in Dementlieu, since, well, he MUST know some way of avoiding the attention of the Elder Brain if it has managed to stay alive and even create a big organized crime ring of psionic users in all this time. Would this be OK? I'd also like to know how tightly you will enforce the thing with the Elder Brain. I've been reading the fraternity of shadows wiki and... it's downright SCARY.
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« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2013, 11:12:46 PM »
My bard has the Soothing Voice ACF... which acts as a Calm Emotions spell. Maybe we should talk. :D I haven't read any of the material on psionics in Ravenloft, but it sounds interesting... Anyway, I think the entire point of Ravenloft is that it sucks for everyone. They probably put the bit you read in there as a "Oh yeah, you too, psi-lovers!". :lmao
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2013, 12:00:58 AM »
@phaedrusxy, it's bad, it's REALLY, REALLY BAD. The way i read it, it goes on basically like this: Everytime you use a psionic ability, roll a dice. If you pass, it's all good. If you don't, then it means that the Elder Brain has sensed a psionic mind, and now has it's eyes set on you. I recall this is checked once per week. At first, it's only dreams, unsettling visions on the corner of your eye. Every time you fail, the notoriety level rises by 1. Once it reaches 5, the God Brain uses it's powers to project Bluetspur's reality in your location, and, in your eyes, every single person around you is now an Illithid and starts attacking you. The attacks are REAL. If you take damage, then you take damage. If you attack the Illithids, they take damage, but the person that's actually there is also taking the full beating. If you succeed in staving off the attack, then you're home free for a while(can't remember for how long), but it also means you have butchered a bunch of people that have nothing to do with any of it. Not cool. If you lose, you die, and the cause of death is a missing Cerebelum, as your consciousness got integrated into the God Brain itself. This means, no ressurrection. Even Speak with Dead fails. If you run away, you get physically transported to the God Brain. You can also make a Wisdom Check to superimpose your will and terminate the actions of the Elder Brain, but only for that encounter.

See how bad it is? Yes, it is very, very bad. The God Brain is also the Darklord of Bluetspur, who commands a veritable host of Illithids. Not a pushover to defeat. But in Dementlieu there's an organised crime ring composed of psionic users and commanded by a Psionic Brain in a Jar. They must have found out a way of keeping the God Brain away from their businesses, so if i am to function properly if at all as a Psionic User, i must either have a massively high Wisdom score (gonna need a Periapt of Wisdom +6 ASAP) or somehow get in touch with the fellas and discover what is their secret. Hiding innawoods is also somewhat of an option, but given the nature of the Ravenloft woods, and the fact that we're in a quest, not a viable choice. But, as long as there aren't people around me, there ain't no one for the Illithid to mind-switch into and attack.

But, despite all that, this is actually really kind of nice in a sense, because makes it easier for me to have an actual goal and background in-universe. Just need to hear more from dna1 about how exactly this is going to be approached in-game, and especially if Calm Emotions can be used as a way of "snapping out of it" and retaining my sanity. Oh, did i forget to mention? I slowly get insane because of the God Brain.
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2013, 12:38:41 AM »
Yeah, I read over it. It sounds pretty bad. It was written using 2nd edition terminology for the mechanics, though. So it would have to be converted/updated (if it wasn't already somewhere).
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Re: OOC Discussion thread
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2013, 12:46:47 AM »
Yeah, I read over it. It sounds pretty bad. It was written using 2nd edition terminology for the mechanics, though. So it would have to be converted/updated (if it wasn't already somewhere).

Quite frankly, i'm very much inclined to just drop the Psionics part of the build and go with Wizard instead of PsyWar/Ardent. It would be the same thing, except a few points of lost BAB, no Expansion, and the need to apply Still Spell for everything with a Somatic component that i want to use while grappling. Bummer. Still, depending on dna1's response to this little psy problem, i might stick with the original idea. If not, well, there are a lot of very nice grapple spells, and the Octopus familiar, which grants +3 untyped to grapple that helps offset the lost BAB. Or, go for broke with the Archivist route, which will let me get the juicy Righteous Might, which DOES work on Monstrous Humanoids. Archivist is also very flavorful for Ravenloft, AND it opens up the possibility of going into Tainted Scholar later on... But no Schism, no Synchronicity and no Hustle hurts too...

Tempted am i. Think about it i will overnight.
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