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Title: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 08, 2019, 11:33:15 PM
True. There’s been no say on what their blood tastes like. :P

Weird, coppery, and not blood-blood in the sense of most animals. Since it's also intramuscular fluid etc.
The copper does it give quite a different taste, some vampires love it, others not so much it but will still drink it if nothing iron-based is available.

OK, Nitinol-7 updated with flaws and two more feats. Basically just getting TWF proper and the extra tactical options--shrinking the distance between spaces is probably the best compensation for being... you know, slow and heavily armoured. I almost wonder if I shouldn't have slow the flaw for the comedy of it: don't go fast, just abuse space-warping.

Minor note: when you use cutting the Gordian Knot to turn a two-handed weapon into throwing knives, are the knives lighter than normal? Otherwise you suddenly have 45lbs of knife from a much lighter greatsword. :lmao
Eeerrr, the feat already explicitly says that the new knifes each weight only 1/45 of the original weapon.

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 09, 2019, 12:37:43 AM
Well, I missed a spot check there. Whoops.

I have to repeat that I'm not sure how relevant languages are going to be. Neither Vampire Lord nor Evolved Undead offer a way to get some sort of Tongues effect despite both being "your unlife is going to be VERY long".
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on March 09, 2019, 11:03:07 AM
Noticed new fluff, is this Scott Pilgrim?

Biggest thing I need to decide one is last God Characteristic, my Red Magic spells, and inventory. Also what exactly my cohort is gonna be. Probably some sort of mage. It's supposed to be a girl that only speaks for spells that's human with a devilish heritage.

Anyone want to be in my band?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 09, 2019, 12:16:41 PM
1) That's the other team.

2) You're making a God? Seriously? I mean, I like the class and all, but it kind of goes against any concept of "not over-optimising" on its own, let alone once you add in a cha-synergising gestalt/other race.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on March 09, 2019, 12:39:34 PM
1) That's the other team.

2) You're making a God? Seriously? I mean, I like the class and all, but it kind of goes against any concept of "not over-optimising" on its own, let alone once you add in a cha-synergising gestalt/other race.

Reeeeeeeeeeeee I did it already. I was worried about it happening, and I didn't already.

Anyways, if Os thinks it OP I'll change it.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 09, 2019, 10:02:26 PM
So we're basically ready on this side, aren't we?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 09, 2019, 11:37:52 PM
Well, I missed a spot check there. Whoops.

I have to repeat that I'm not sure how relevant languages are going to be. Neither Vampire Lord nor Evolved Undead offer a way to get some sort of Tongues effect despite both being "your unlife is going to be VERY long".

By that logic, every outsider/immortal should get tongues.

And elves don't get bonus languages either despite average lifespan of 1000 years. Nor dragons. Don't think too hard about it. I could make Tongues an Evolved Undead pick.

2) You're making a God? Seriously? I mean, I like the class and all, but it kind of goes against any concept of "not over-optimising" on its own, let alone once you add in a cha-synergising gestalt/other race.

Well god is stronk yes, but also has a lot of the power comes from moving pieces so it be possible to don't synergize too much and keep whitin the parameters. Will wait for sheet numbers.

So we're basically ready on this side, aren't we?
Kuromaiken's sheet mostly unfinished and Vladeshi may or may not join this team yet.

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 10, 2019, 12:16:16 AM
Near every outsider that wants to deal with people DOES get tongues or access to it as spell, though. :lmao

And in fairness, if you were to take all of Evolved Undead, you'd be minimum 2,000 years old all on the mortal plane. Seems like a logical place to have a Tongues option.

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Well god is stronk yes, but also has a lot of the power comes from moving pieces so it be possible to don't synergize too much and keep whitin the parameters. Will wait for sheet numbers.

Mostly it's the trivial resurrect/instakill/know someone's entire life SDAs that jump out to me as immediate problems (though that every ability scales with every level is also a sort of long-term concern). Like, look at what I had in the taint-game just by swapping cha to INT and focusing knowledge checks.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 12, 2019, 01:12:34 AM
Oh, right, I didn't have an alignment chosen earlier but I just chose one today. Guess I'm just heads-upping folks? :p

Also edited in an easier to see pic for my appearance than the tiny one on mythweavers.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 12, 2019, 01:53:56 AM
We are a strangely non-evil lot.

Also slightly altered my sheet to have the tongues effect and not dispel magic.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 12, 2019, 03:23:22 AM
I mean, did Bonnie ever even really seem evil anyways? Vampires aren't necessarily evil as our very party very much proves.

She's the MLK of undead yo  :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 13, 2019, 12:41:54 AM
I've got everything sorted out, it looks like I'm done.  Os, you should probably glance over my sheet but I think I'm ready for a backstory.
You don't seem to be packing any basic mundane gear (tools, flint and steel, torches, rope, extra dresses etc), but otherwise your crunch looks fine (really like your new bot team), feel free to work on your fluff.

Looked at the other thread. Are we expecting the team of mostly-undead to be packing any of that? :p

You know, between the whole not-eating thing, vampire lord having flight, darkvision...
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 13, 2019, 01:33:13 AM
As a diplomancer I'll be relying on the good will of others as I have no equipment or money.

I will still be hosting kick-ass parties at every tavern though.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 18, 2019, 02:06:59 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaand here I am, fashionably late. Picking some stuff for my sheet now. Ugh. I HATE having to throw away Adaptive Learning. I love how that feat simplifies my life.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 18, 2019, 02:22:59 AM
In case you missed it, I recently made a new trait that allows you to count as a specific race for taking feats. Monster Heritage (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=526.0) at the bottom of the first post.

(sure it says "monster", but humans are the true monsters and stuff :p)
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 18, 2019, 12:27:36 PM
...Goodie!
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 18, 2019, 09:11:20 PM
Heh, since my few possessions include an airship, I'll be wondering wherever such a thing might be. Obviously not relevant when we're right next door to step one.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 19, 2019, 08:05:22 AM
It's fine if you brought it along, plus you can use it as a distraction bribe that can be easily recovered to make a stylish entrance.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 19, 2019, 09:47:08 AM
Just make sure it's playing this as you roll into town. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTyhQMz3AeY)
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 21, 2019, 03:39:18 PM
I read "Decus" and suddenly I keep picturing a 40-year-old disillusioned Midoriya Izuku.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 21, 2019, 03:48:30 PM
Dex
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Vladeshi on March 22, 2019, 07:42:09 PM
I forgot to ask this when I was making my character.
Does Melanie start with any corpses? If so how many and of what?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 22, 2019, 08:49:57 PM
I forgot to ask this when I was making my character.
Does Melanie start with any corpses? If so how many and of what?

Let's go with half of your corpse cart's maximum capacity, any creatures of your choice up to level/CR 5.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 26, 2019, 12:06:12 PM
So are we sticking together on the ground or...? :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 26, 2019, 12:45:46 PM
Huh. Coulda sworn I had blindsense/sight from SOMEWHERE. Guess not. *shrug*

Hector is walking, though he makes good pace for a kid with such stubby legs.  :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 26, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Yall acting like we're walking at a brisk pace but Decus' land speed is 15ft  :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 26, 2019, 09:27:52 PM
The maid's speed is 10', don't worry. You're still faster than she is.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 27, 2019, 03:35:54 AM
I can beat that. Just git sloshed
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on March 27, 2019, 10:29:27 AM
I read "Decus" and suddenly I keep picturing a 40-year-old disillusioned Midoriya Izuku.

:lmao

May already be enough and I just got on.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 27, 2019, 03:41:36 PM
Hmmm. At 13 ranks in Disguise, can I get a Familiar I can ride on with Servant Flier?

And can he also look adorable?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 28, 2019, 06:05:23 AM
Hmmm. At 13 ranks in Disguise, can I get a Familiar I can ride on with Servant Flier?
Not that I know of unless you happen to be diminutive/fine.

And can he also look adorable?
Of course.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 28, 2019, 07:33:24 AM
Welp, I can't change size categories with DIF unfortunately. Would think being Small size would be enough though? I mean, horses are only large and they serve as mounts to medium-size adventurers. I think there are some medium-size birds on the familiar list somewhere.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on March 28, 2019, 07:46:38 AM
There is this compilation (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=9955.msg162128#msg162128) and the only medium-sized standard option is the eel that can only swim. Serpent Kingdoms has a medium dung snake and the DMG has extra rules for larger masters up to a medium sized giant owl, but specifically for huge or bigger masters.

And that's the thing, a familiar's more of a cute smart pet, not something big and sturdy enough to serve as your combat steed. If your original size was huge or bigger then you could take the medium owl, but otherwise clearly familiar are meant to be smoll.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on March 28, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
Fair enough. Taking Servant Flier stance then with a tiny, cute bat as my little friend.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 29, 2019, 10:18:54 PM
I'll just wait for Yuwea to report what they noticed. Or not report. As I haven't noticed anything, I can't really say I'll do anything until someone else does. :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 29, 2019, 10:34:10 PM
 :cool
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 29, 2019, 10:50:52 PM
Useless drunk.  :shakefist
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 29, 2019, 11:36:08 PM
How else should I be expected to gauge the usefulness of a bunch of corpses that're suppose to be backing me up here? I'd do this solo if I wasn't asked otherwise  :love
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on March 30, 2019, 12:03:33 AM
You want to risk an innocent maid(en) to test the vamps? For shame. :(
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on March 30, 2019, 12:52:42 AM
Oh, Decus can be much more shameful towards an innocent maiden  :smirk
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 01, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
But where's the innocent maiden? >.>
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 01, 2019, 05:14:02 PM
My lovestruck fool of a maid? :P
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 03, 2019, 11:11:22 AM
Awwww, I almost wish there WERE something I could've done with that Perform check.  :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 03, 2019, 11:32:54 AM
You fool! That was a good roll.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 03, 2019, 05:12:41 PM
Somehow that sounded a bit like
"You soiled yourself! Bravo."
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 05, 2019, 03:31:37 AM
Well if Vladeshi doesn't post anything until the weekend's end, then I'll assume the kasha hesitated too much in warning the party and I'll be advancing the action with some surprise rounds from the undetected opponents.

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Skyrock on April 05, 2019, 09:28:43 PM
-EDIT-
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 05, 2019, 11:00:21 PM
I believe you have the wrong thread.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Skyrock on April 06, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
I had indeed.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 07:10:09 AM
Ah yes feel free to roll knowledge (nature)/(local)/(the planes) if you have them.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 10, 2019, 07:29:11 AM
Well, I'm out entirely in the surprise round. So glad that the people who noticed something didn't say.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 08:01:28 AM
Well, I'm out entirely in the surprise round. So glad that the people who noticed something didn't say.

Don't you have DR 10/Silver and Magic?

Also a difference of 11 between your normal and flatfooted AC didn't help much.

(plus you still have a capable cohort. I assume you have a coffin in your airship right?)
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 10, 2019, 08:30:37 AM
Vampire only has DR if activated in advance or as an immediate action. Flatfooted means no immediate actions.

Coffin in the airship, I think a backup coffin is also in the charsheet and likely with  the cohort if anywhere (but obviously a bad place to head). Airship location was never really defined, though.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 09:04:24 AM
Let's say 100 feet away from you.

Speaking of which may also want to define which airship you have, quite a few different types in 3.5 if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 10, 2019, 09:23:29 AM
Where do I even start looking for something like that? I guess Eberron, maybe?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 10:12:45 AM
Arms and equipment guide has zepellins and dirigibles but they're kinda crappy, Eberron's your best bet in the official books yes.

Mind you, you can also buy a mecha battleship (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=17945.msg324432#msg324432) for a pure mechanical one, the discount option shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're not planning in using it for actual battle.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 10, 2019, 10:28:23 AM
2nd level battleship seems to be the only choice, given the Eberron one is a fixed cost out of 10th level WBL.

Mostly a shame because controlling that one is a case of profession,  Charisma, and charm/dominate monster. A skillset I completely picked up by chance. :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 10, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
Wow, these guys hit pretty good.  :o

EDIT: So glad I changed my sheet around to include Undead Toughness. That hit would've sucked. Oh yeah, forgot to ask: does Dark Healing and Fast Healing from MoL stack? Just asking for my next set of actions.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 11:35:04 AM
Fast healing doesn't stack unless specifically noted otherwise.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on April 10, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
Wow really? Vampires don't have DR? Dam -_-'

Those damage numbers were not quite what I was expecting either  :lol
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 10, 2019, 02:48:41 PM
Wow really? Vampires don't have DR? Dam -_-'

Those damage numbers were not quite what I was expecting either  :lol
As with all things, Vamps pay for their powers in Blood Money.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on April 10, 2019, 03:37:55 PM
So Decus at least saw one enemy before the surprise round and was ready to move out of the way when it charged. Since they all moved simultaneously, would Decus flying into the air above the party have changed the target for the birds?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 10, 2019, 08:03:17 PM
So Decus at least saw one enemy before the surprise round and was ready to move out of the way when it charged. Since they all moved simultaneously, would Decus flying into the air above the party have changed the target for the birds?

Yes, in which case Decus takes the damage meant for Carmellian.

2nd level battleship seems to be the only choice, given the Eberron one is a fixed cost out of 10th level WBL.

Mostly a shame because controlling that one is a case of profession,  Charisma, and charm/dominate monster. A skillset I completely picked up by chance. :lmao

Technically mechanical battleships also need a crew so you can still have your team of charmed/dominated people moving it around. :p

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 10, 2019, 08:08:49 PM
It was because the Eberron airship requires you to either win a charisma-off with an elemental to force it to budge... or just mentally subjugate it. That's another option. And the profession roll for complex maneuvers gets Charisma added to the base roll. All oddly synergistic, just too expensive. xD
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 11, 2019, 03:32:58 AM
Updated the most recent IC post to reflect Decus cowardly bravely tanking for Carmille. Also Decus won initiative so the party can all act now.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on April 11, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
Didn't even have to Nerveskitter!

Does Mysterious Ring count as doing physical damage as I'm physically throwing it?  :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 11, 2019, 01:09:55 PM
Thanks, crazy drunk angel man.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 11, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
Awwww, shame my feet got no improved critical.  :P

EDIT: Also, if it matters at the moment (not sure if it does... never had a character with Energy Drain before) the DC to remove those levels is 23.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 11, 2019, 05:55:35 PM
I wish you'd be a bit more clear about how you're attacking, I'm wondering where the energy drain is coming into it. xD

Too lazy to reroll everything, but I realised that the bonus Pure Metal damage scales. I'll take that into account in future rolls. Also, does that get affected by crits? I assume not.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 11, 2019, 07:26:34 PM
I described a lot of kicking, didn't I?  :lol
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on April 11, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
I described a lot of kicking, didn't I?  :lol

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Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 12, 2019, 03:25:01 AM
Didn't even have to Nerveskitter!

Does Mysterious Ring count as doing physical damage as I'm physically throwing it?  :p
Yes.

I would've used Dark Healing too, because the way it's written now suggests you get FH equal to your HD for 1 blood charge

You misread it then since it specifically does say it's 1 blood charge for just Fast Healing 1, but I admit the next wording could be a bit clearer and could lead to another reading if one completely ignores the previous bit so clarified it.

Too lazy to reroll everything, but I realised that the bonus Pure Metal damage scales. I'll take that into account in future rolls. Also, does that get affected by crits? I assume not.

No, clarified that too.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 12, 2019, 12:42:49 PM
Yeah, assumed that was the intent, but you know what they say about assumptions.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 14, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
About what are the creatures positions?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 14, 2019, 05:36:58 PM
I think we can infer "right beside two of the PCs and all of us were walking together".

Also one is flying.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 14, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
About what are the creatures positions?

A couple Bloody Bulls roughly whitin 30 feet and the two Carmine Eagles roughly 70 feet up above you.

Which reminds me:

Kuroimaken:
The Bloody Bulls are colossal sized meaning they have melee reach 30 feet and that's how far away they attacked from. Does Hector has any kind of reach to hit back? If not he'll need to close in and provoke Aoo (unless you have some ability to deny that), and can't full attack unless he  has pounce or similar.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 14, 2019, 10:25:46 PM
Shouldn't that be 20' reach? I'm assuming bulls are long, not tall.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 14, 2019, 11:53:34 PM
A fair assumption, but after all the customization the Bloody Bulls count as tall creatures.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 15, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
Was wondering direction as well, but yea the fact they are near people is enough info. I was deciding how precise I had to be. Also, yea you said they where big, but I didn't get the feeling they where TALL COLOSSAL. Though yea, I thought they were bipedal.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 15, 2019, 11:35:04 AM
About what are the creatures positions?

A couple Bloody Bulls roughly whitin 30 feet and the two Carmine Eagles roughly 70 feet up above you.

Which reminds me:

Kuroimaken:
The Bloody Bulls are colossal sized meaning they have melee reach 30 feet and that's how far away they attacked from. Does Hector has any kind of reach to hit back? If not he'll need to close in and provoke Aoo (unless you have some ability to deny that), and can't full attack unless he  has pounce or similar.

Yeah, that's the kind of important info that I needed BEFORE I posted my actions... I may have to redo them.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 15, 2019, 12:32:22 PM
Guess I'll focus fire cause they're to spread for AoE. Well unless I want to hit everyone.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 16, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
So looking up the situation, just replace my previous boost with Demon Lord Walk. I still get to full-attack, just no blood charges for this round save for the ones from Energy Drain.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 16, 2019, 05:40:42 PM
So...

I'm confused.

Yuwea, are you actually shooting anyone? :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 16, 2019, 10:04:59 PM
Guess I'll focus fire cause they're to spread for AoE. Well unless I want to hit everyone.

Just to make sure, does your minion has any ability to make their bullets count as magic?

So looking up the situation, just replace my previous boost with Demon Lord Walk. I still get to full-attack, just no blood charges for this round save for the ones from Energy Drain.

Gotcha.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 17, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
So...

I'm confused.

Yuwea, are you actually shooting anyone? :lmao

Um yeah?
Ignore the part about me not being able to AoE though.

And nope Os, those bullets mundane asf.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 17, 2019, 11:47:48 AM
Oh, everything is just in the dice rolling.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 18, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Oh, everything is just in the dice rolling.

I try to keep most technical stuff in dice roll.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 18, 2019, 09:14:16 AM
That seems like it might be confusing when the dice roll thread is shared between two games.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 18, 2019, 10:14:44 AM
Oof, good point. I may change it around a bit... Though still gotta post in the roll thread so yea.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 19, 2019, 01:40:47 AM
Bird breaks free from Decus ring but can't take other actions so the party can act again now.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 19, 2019, 01:55:46 AM
Two quick questions:

1) Isn't profane damage technically negative energy damage? I'm probably mixing up the two, but I never saw a "profane" damage type before.

2) This is literally my first time playing undead, what are the differences for me vis-a-vis rolling Fort?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 19, 2019, 02:13:03 AM
Two quick questions:

1) Isn't profane damage technically negative energy damage? I'm probably mixing up the two, but I never saw a "profane" damage type before.
Indeed I don't think there's any official effect that deals profane damage, I just wanted an "evil" counterpart to sacred damage although technically evil clerics deal that too. Anyway it's not negative energy damage.

2) This is literally my first time playing undead, what are the differences for me vis-a-vis rolling Fort?
Undeads can count as objects and ignore fort stuff that wouldn't affect objects, but if they do affect objects, then you roll just as normal.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on April 19, 2019, 02:58:57 AM
Darn it, I did it again. I forgot to include the additional +8 bonus to my grapple check for my size bonus. If that changes anything.

Oof how unfortunate that I didn't know when I was allowed to use Elude Chance to autoroll an 11 on a save before I actually rolled the Will save that I was certain I could make  :lmao

Welp, Decus is AFK this turn.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 19, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
Are those penalties area effects or just attacks?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 19, 2019, 10:30:05 AM
Two quick questions:

1) Isn't profane damage technically negative energy damage? I'm probably mixing up the two, but I never saw a "profane" damage type before.
Indeed I don't think there's any official effect that deals profane damage, I just wanted an "evil" counterpart to sacred damage although technically evil clerics deal that too. Anyway it's not negative energy damage.

2) This is literally my first time playing undead, what are the differences for me vis-a-vis rolling Fort?
Undeads can count as objects and ignore fort stuff that wouldn't affect objects, but if they do affect objects, then you roll just as normal.

On 2), I just wasn't sure if I added anything instead of CON bonus, since I obviously haven't got one of those.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 20, 2019, 12:40:46 AM
Are those penalties area effects or just attacks?

The one that triggered upon death was an attack, the shockwave with damage+deafness+daze was a an area effect.

Two quick questions:

1) Isn't profane damage technically negative energy damage? I'm probably mixing up the two, but I never saw a "profane" damage type before.
Indeed I don't think there's any official effect that deals profane damage, I just wanted an "evil" counterpart to sacred damage although technically evil clerics deal that too. Anyway it's not negative energy damage.

2) This is literally my first time playing undead, what are the differences for me vis-a-vis rolling Fort?
Undeads can count as objects and ignore fort stuff that wouldn't affect objects, but if they do affect objects, then you roll just as normal.

On 2), I just wasn't sure if I added anything instead of CON bonus, since I obviously haven't got one of those.
In 3.5 undeads get to add Cha instead of Con for concentration checks but not other stuff. In PF they get to fully use Cha for everything that Con is normally used.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 20, 2019, 01:18:37 AM
So, if I ignore all attacks and other effects until my turn begins, I still take the damage and need to roll against the stun?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 20, 2019, 06:06:13 AM
What's exactly the effect you're using for that?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 20, 2019, 09:08:20 AM
Quote
Taboo Sign
Diabolic Wave (Counter)
Level: Eternal Royal 1
Initiation Action: Immediate Action
Range: See text
Duration: See text

You may use this Counter when you would be harmed or hindered in any way. You turn into a demonic-looking bat that cannot take actions but is otherwise immune to all harm and ill conditions. This transformation lasts until the start of your next turn.

For each 6 blood charges you spend when using this counter, it lasts another round.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 20, 2019, 09:57:56 AM
That would protect you from the Aoe too.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 20, 2019, 10:12:19 AM
And a question on World in Crimson:

Quote
-If you deal a creature enough damage to make it drop (typically by dropping it to below 0 hit points or killing it), you get an immediate, extra thrown attack against another creature within the first range increment. You cannot take a 5-foot step before making this extra attack. The extra attack is with the same type of weapon and at the same bonus as the attack that dropped the previous creature. You can use this ability once per round.

Does that leave me without a weapon or does it basically duplicate my weapon for the one attack?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 21, 2019, 12:01:17 AM
Everybody: Completely forgot about taking in account Hector's negative levels, so the damage from the wave of evil sludge should be just 19 and the save DCs should be 2 lower. Updated IC to reflect the new numbers. :blush

And a question on World in Crimson:

Quote
-If you deal a creature enough damage to make it drop (typically by dropping it to below 0 hit points or killing it), you get an immediate, extra thrown attack against another creature within the first range increment. You cannot take a 5-foot step before making this extra attack. The extra attack is with the same type of weapon and at the same bonus as the attack that dropped the previous creature. You can use this ability once per round.

Does that leave me without a weapon or does it basically duplicate my weapon for the one attack?
If you have a spare weapon of the same type you can use it for the extra attack if you have it, but otherwise the feat doesn't duplicate the weapon, so if you have something more unique then yes you would need to leave it.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on April 22, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
That AoE wasn't a spell or maneuver was it? Or I guess the question is can I tell.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on April 24, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
That AoE wasn't a spell or maneuver was it? Or I guess the question is can I tell.

No.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on May 07, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
Kuromaiken: You waiting for something in specific to post Hector's actions? It seems like you didn't even roll your saves yet either.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 08, 2019, 11:26:50 AM
Eeep, I'm up again? Sorry!

Which saves do I have to roll again?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on May 08, 2019, 12:23:58 PM
Everybody takes 33 19 profane damage and is deafened for 6 rounds, Fort DC 25 23 for half (affects objects/undead/constructs) and negates the deafness, -1 penalty on the save for each size category below colossal, and a Will save with DC 26 24 or be Dazed for 1 round.

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 08, 2019, 02:28:25 PM
WHAT A DAMN TIME FOR A CRITICAL MISS!!
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on May 08, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
WHAT A DAMN TIME FOR A CRITICAL MISS!!

F

Also good job keeping things entertaining both in and out of game lol.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 08, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
WHAT A DAMN TIME FOR A CRITICAL MISS!!

F

Also good job keeping things entertaining both in and out of game lol.
I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about.  :D
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on May 10, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
WHAT A DAMN TIME FOR A CRITICAL MISS!!

Better in the intro battle than in a big boss battle. :p

Raineh Daze:


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Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on May 10, 2019, 09:01:53 AM
Yea of course his failure is Reilynn's fault... Actually makes sense considering.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 10, 2019, 11:16:29 AM
Ah, so that's how it works (well, the disguise ranks thing was just misreading). Not sure how usable the extra saves ever will be in that case simply because of the limitation of both targeting an enemy and then needing enemies to cross multiple chains, but at least it's clearer.

If someone moves from a square occupied by one chain into a square occupied by the same chain, do they need to make multiple saves as normal? e.g. it works as a very effective charge deterrent.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 13, 2019, 02:43:32 PM
>Makes save against being deafened
>Critical fails Listen check

At least the dice gods are consistent
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on May 15, 2019, 11:15:34 PM
Ah, so that's how it works (well, the disguise ranks thing was just misreading). Not sure how usable the extra saves ever will be in that case simply because of the limitation of both targeting an enemy and then needing enemies to cross multiple chains, but at least it's clearer.
Anything can be an enemy, it's a purely personal perspective (whereas an ally is a two-way road).

If someone moves from a square occupied by one chain into a square occupied by the same chain, do they need to make multiple saves as normal? e.g. it works as a very effective charge deterrent.
Yes, there would be a save per square.

Also reminder for you and YuweaCurtis to roll senses.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 17, 2019, 11:02:55 AM
I have literally no senses to roll, so enjoy my useless unmodified d20 rolls. :p
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 17, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Why do you think my scout fits in my pocket?  :P
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 17, 2019, 03:30:04 PM
If I wanted to scout I'd just summon a bunch of wolves or something. :rolleyes
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on May 18, 2019, 09:49:55 AM
If I wanted to scout I'd just summon a bunch of wolves or something. :rolleyes

I mean, I think most of us can do that lol.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 26, 2019, 03:59:54 PM
*nudges the heck out of people*
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on June 26, 2019, 05:21:01 PM
*nudges the heck out of people*

Says the guy we were waiting on
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 26, 2019, 06:12:28 PM
...are you serious? No one even poked me once.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on June 26, 2019, 08:15:29 PM
YuweaCurtis didn't post yet either (ditto for the other vampire campaign).
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 26, 2019, 08:21:50 PM
...there's another vampire campaign?

Or do you mean another team?

(Been on a Bloodstained kick lately)
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on June 26, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
Eh sorry not sure how to respond with Melody without breaking character or pissing kitty off.

Elvira has nothing to say though I could make a reply right quick if need something.

Thought others needed to post... My bad fuck.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 28, 2019, 11:29:10 PM
Is there an appropriate roll for "have I met these people before in my long long life"? :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on June 28, 2019, 11:33:08 PM
Isn't that for what knowledge is for, remembering facts? :P
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on June 28, 2019, 11:34:54 PM
...there's another vampire campaign?

Or do you mean another team?
The other team.

(Been on a Bloodstained kick lately)

So is that a sign it does live up to the hype?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 29, 2019, 12:43:02 AM
Isn't that for what knowledge is for, remembering facts? :P

Hey, at least I'd know which knowledge I don't have is meant to cover who I've met. xD
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 29, 2019, 01:31:27 AM
...there's another vampire campaign?

Or do you mean another team?
The other team.

(Been on a Bloodstained kick lately)

So is that a sign it does live up to the hype?

I'm not sure how high the hype is. It feels exactly like Castlevania should feel, which is unsurprising because duh, same creator. It unfortunately feels a bit short (I'm about 12 hours in and nearly done with my first playthrough), but it hits all the right notes on the fun and gameplay department, which makes it all worthwhile to me.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on June 29, 2019, 02:46:31 AM
Isn't that for what knowledge is for, remembering facts? :P

Hey, at least I'd know which knowledge I don't have is meant to cover who I've met. xD

Fine, nobility and royalty or religion since you're a vampire noble yourself.

I'm not sure how high the hype is. It feels exactly like Castlevania should feel, which is unsurprising because duh, same creator. It unfortunately feels a bit short (I'm about 12 hours in and nearly done with my first playthrough), but it hits all the right notes on the fun and gameplay department, which makes it all worthwhile to me.

Ok, thanks!
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 29, 2019, 09:15:54 AM
...there's another vampire campaign?

Or do you mean another team?
The other team.

(Been on a Bloodstained kick lately)

So is that a sign it does live up to the hype?

I'm not sure how high the hype is. It feels exactly like Castlevania should feel, which is unsurprising because duh, same creator. It unfortunately feels a bit short (I'm about 12 hours in and nearly done with my first playthrough), but it hits all the right notes on the fun and gameplay department, which makes it all worthwhile to me.

I mean, twelve hours seems about right for a castlevania-style deal.

And it turns out it was worth asking because my levels in Eternal Royal gave me access to Knowledge (Religion). :blush
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on July 01, 2019, 01:28:51 AM
Yea, I myself was wondering if I knew that one vampire, I'm not really popular lol.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on July 07, 2019, 08:05:12 AM
Eeerr, Ketaro, you had already rolled your angel's knowledges, those were the results for the whole party. :psyduck

Or do you have some ability to allow to re-roll?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on July 07, 2019, 03:40:58 PM
Oh lol. Itd been so long i forgot. Nevermind me  :lmao
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on July 21, 2019, 07:02:01 PM
Eeerr, Ketaro, you had already rolled your angel's knowledges, those were the results for the whole party. :psyduck

Or do you have some ability to allow to re-roll?

Wait a second, I never rolled knowledge checks -_-'

Wait a new second, yes I did. Oh my god what is wrong with me!
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 21, 2019, 08:32:50 PM
Please make sure to firmly attach the head before doing any thought.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: dman on July 29, 2019, 11:40:50 PM
I don't mean to intrude.  I just saw that you might have room for one more, and I've been posting in moldering threads.  I'm eager to try me some monster classes.  I made a few guys who might be a bit powerful, and I probably need some correction.  First attempt: Mr. Gruble (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1954314) and Lady Selinda  (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1956036). Second attempt:  the arguably less powerful Professor Smyth (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971320). Quickly scaled down Favored Child based on Selinda (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1953639).  Thank you for your consideration.

Edit: Here's a Roguish version I whipped up real quick that may be more on the power level or perhaps a bit under.  Chandrel (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1972122)

Edit 2: This is totally not  me  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU3Pk6oDNRU).
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on July 31, 2019, 06:32:28 AM
Ok, first, there is a thread for character sheets (http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18257.0).

Second, for power levels please test your character against the following and post the rough reports:

A Fire Giant.
A Young adult Blue Dragon (ignore the dragon's spells).
A Bebilith.
A Vrock (notice it has at-will mirror image and telekinesis to fling stuff from 880 feet away).
A pair of Mind Flayers.
An evil 10th level cleric with a big pile of 1HD human skeletons tagging along.
6 Trolls.
A lot of Shadows.

Your character need to beat at least 4 of those battles, but if you double the number of enemies and still win over half of them then your character needs to be toned down a bit.

Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 08, 2019, 01:12:05 AM
We waiting for someone on our side to speak up or what?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on August 09, 2019, 03:02:36 AM
Sorry, work and caught a summer cold and still needing to prepare for a trip so I couldn't update and probably won't be able to do so until next week at least.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: YuweaCurtis on August 09, 2019, 02:04:13 PM
That's fine, it lets me slacc. Also how are you feeling now?
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 19, 2019, 02:26:15 PM
*Gently nudges Osle by dropkicking him in the nuts*
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: oslecamo on August 24, 2019, 05:59:04 AM
It's been a long couple weeks but things kinda finally settling down, will be trying to catch up with the forum stuff one at a time.
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 24, 2019, 10:22:12 AM
*Hector commands all his spirits to cheer you on*
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: ketaro on August 28, 2019, 02:55:13 AM
Welcome back Os  :hug

Allow me to completely start trouble now  :D
Title: Re: The Crown's Cursed-Team Bonnie OOC
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 28, 2019, 10:34:18 AM
As an aside: only really drank 4 Con from her. Making sure to 'kiss' and 'lick' the wounds between each bite.

Feel free to give me some saves against that SWEET, SWEET POISON!  :P