Min/Max Boards

The 6th level Bard spell, Snowsong, from the Frostburn sourcebook .... is a terrific multi-purpose utility, buff, offense, defense and healing combo-spell for the entire party.  And at 10 minutes/level, that's pretty much all day long for you, if you do desire.

Beyond that, you should look at a lot of the higher-level (4th, 5th and 6th level) Bard-only spells, too. 

For the first time, I'll be playing in a pure Pathfinder Rules Only Campaign (no 3.5 stuff allowed).  My 12th level Foresight Diviner Wizard (with Forewarned, Prescience & Foretell) is going to the party's only arcane spellcaster.  So I'll be doing standard debuffing and BC work for the group (a ranger, inquisitor & cleric).

As a dedicated sub-theme for my wizard, I need to spend at least some of his build resources on "stealth" capability.  As all 4 of us will be needing it in order to survive this Underdark-centered urban campaign (lots of espionage and sneaky commando missions).

So I'm hoping some of you folks can help & recommend to me some magic items, mundane gear, spells, feats/traits and the like for me to look into.  Please note, I'm not looking for a full-throttle investment into stealth capability.  More so a less-resource-intensive or auxiliary investment.  In essence, I'm looking for "stealth on the cheap".  To note, I will be maxing out my Stealth and Perception skills, even though I won't get the bonus +3 for doing so. 

So if you can help me find some great "bang for the buck" stealth ideas - I would greatly appreciate it! 

P.S.  Any ideas for spells would be best for long-durationed spells so my wizard can hopefully get at least 2 or more of his 4-5 combat-encounters-per-day (which we are expecting) properly covered.

Kobold Press (Wolfgang Bauer) and Super Genius Games (Owen K.C. Stephens) makes some decent game supplements for Pathfinder.  Quality level is consistently high ... creative alternative game mechanics that are balanced ... I haven't had a thumbs down on any of their supplements yet. 

I backport (after some small modifications) PF-only stuff back to 3.5.  So this information may be irrelevant to you. 

Hey Everyone,

I'm looking for something that is probably quite obscure.  The Incarnum Spellshaping feat (MoI p. 38) gives the bearer exclusive access to a whole new subset of spells - ones that have the descriptor of [Incarnum].  There's not a lot of spells in the MoI book .... so I'm looking for some homebrew [Incarnum] spells from some of the creative folk here at MM. 

Perhaps you know where I could find some spells like this?  Or one of you may have some in your files somewhere?

Due to the idiosyncrasies of our campaign world, a sizable number of spellcasters will have this feat.  And I'd like to provide more options for said spellcasters besides the handful that are in MoI.  Thanks for your help!

Aha.  I did not see that clause.  Thanks for the pickup.

Still, with 3 Move Actions in a turn (one a converted Standard and the other a Bloodspike Tempo) ... that's some great whirlybird action.

I'll look at your link and try to find some other external/additional/stackable Move Action sources to add to the concept.

I wanted to get y'alls feedback on this spellcasting idea.  The Boreal Wind spell, as we all know, is a top-tier multi-threat attack spell for nearly all the primary arcane and divine spellcasters.  One of the more intriguing aspects of this multi-round direction-controllable spell is this quote:

" ... The wind can change direction if you actively direct it (a move action for you); otherwise, it merely blows in the same direction ... "

So if I chose to use my Standard Action as another Move Action in the same round to change direction 5 degrees to the left, could I instead swing it around in the opposite direction (to the right) to, in essence, affect everything around me within a 360 degree AoE? I couldn't find any rules that mandated that I had to adjust a spell's moveable direction in the quickest and shortest path possible.

In addition, let's say I downed 12 Bloodspike Tempos [MoE p. 140] prior to the combat.  If I took those extra 12 Move Action turns all on the first turn that I cast the spell, could I affect the same damaged victim multiple times with the same Boreal Wind?  Assuming the victim was in the initial blast, then was out of it (when the Boreal Wind changed directions), then was back in it again (when a Bloodspike Tempo Move Action moved the Boreal Wind's gust back in the victim's direction.  Assuming in my prior paragraph that I have no restrictions with longer-route swivelling, I can just use Move Actions to swiftly move across the battlefield, swivelling the Boreal Wind in circles or hemisphere sweeps ... and destroying everything that gets multiple touches by the returning/revolving Boreal blasts.  Even stuff that's possibly out of my field of vision.  Of course, caution must be taken to ensure allies won't get caught in this venture.

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In essence, I'm trying to see if I can nova-combo Boreal Wind along with a huge expenditure of Bloodspike Tempos to royally annihilate and blow-back everything on a huge battlefield all within the first turn of my wizard's combat.  To note, Boreal Wind is one of the very few attack spells with Long Range (400 ft. + 40 ft./level).  And its 20'x20'xLong Range AoE is a really compelling strategic-level battlefield spell.  Especially when direction changes point up into the skies to affect flyers. 

Anyhow, if this has any legality issues, please kindly holler back. 

I love this PrC.  Years ago, I had a Dwarf Wizard who I played through 15th level that had Dwarven Chanter and multiple PrC dips that basically made him into both a Bard and a Sorceror as well being a full-blown Wizard. 

I'd be curious what you are gonna do with this PrC, Kevin. 

I was talking with Snow this morning about this thread and she reminded me of another regular.  Mean_Liar.  He wrote the original Monk Optimization Handbook.  It was definitely one of the first CO handbook threads.  And it had an absolute ton of user posts to it over the years.  Mean_Liar, for all his valiant & visionary optimization efforts back in the early 2000s, was always very conscientious to note that he wasn't an evangelist for the 3.0 Monk (and ultimately 3.5 Monk) and always recommended people reconsider other options before going Monk. 

I own a ton of PDF supplements through DriveThruRPG and RPGNow (same company now, I think).  But I've not seen such a niche product as Red Dragon Inn with such a high cost to it.     I am somewhat interested in it, though. 

Libertad, I'd be curious if you think the bang-for-the-buck ratio was worth the purchase.  Especially since it got only 1 lukewarm review. 

His name was Yekoj.  At the time he wrote the 2 wizard handbooks, 2002??, 3.5 was not out yet and he used all the 3.0 splatbooks and the few F.R. sourcebooks that were out at the time.  Snow Savant and I played some PbEM D&D with him.  Yekoj was smart, inventive and as tactically proficient a player as I'd ever gamed with at the time.

I think he disappeared shortly after writing them.  So the updating process never got to happen - which is a shame, because once 3.5 was published, a torrent of amazing WotC sourcebooks followed that heavily influenced us all.

Regardless, his handbooks (he also had a druid handbook and a bard one too, IIRC) set the standard for modern day 3.5 optimization handbooks.