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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #180 on: March 26, 2017, 11:52:25 PM »
Yeah... I like that evening Glory ain't EEEEvill, just... goal oriented. If I hadn't thrown in with her, I'd be seriously considering those troll-blooded Bone Knights  (Damage immunity to all but fire and acid, mooks avoid fatigue with either Tireless (if Aasimar are considered human as in Races of Destiny) or an item of No Light (0-lvl, normal light sources don't illuminate the area), with Paladin or...Warblade on the other. The taint (and it's built-in Flaws), with the inability of anything except wish or miracle to get rid of it, makes EG's 'Undead of Love' the 'best' IMO. We're not team evil; we're trying to show the world that Undead are/were People too!

If'n I did go with the troll-blooded, Cha would get hurt, but Str and Con would bump (Lolth-touched >> Evolved, but no Cha bump)

I'm kinda goin' off the deep end on items: can we use the Item Creation Cost Estimation Rules as written?
Semi Extreme examples:

Continuous Shirt of the Shield Spell (1st level, CL 1, lasts minutes per level; Cost 1x1x2000x2=4000, then modified by crafting costs)
Item of Extended Mordenkainen's Capable Caravel (Stormwrack) (8th=>9th level, CL 17, Lasts 1day/level, usable 1/17 days: Cost 9*17*1800/(5*17)=3240, for a 'permanent' ship w/ extradimensional space (More likely to use Extended Ice Castle (Frostburn) 1/2days at 21000, unless there's always a river/ocean)
Cloak of Continuous Knight Unburdened (Forge of War) (1st level, CL 1, lasts hours/level: Cost 1x1x2000=2000)

That last is priced almost exactly as the Tooth of Savnok, but ain't slotless, and doesn't affect carry-weight, but also isn't unique.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #181 on: March 28, 2017, 05:00:30 AM »
Yeah, go ahead and use those rules. If anything stands out or doesn't feel right, I'll bring it up. :)
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #182 on: April 02, 2017, 07:30:52 PM »
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #183 on: April 02, 2017, 09:22:23 PM »
Nay :|
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« Reply #184 on: April 02, 2017, 10:16:38 PM »
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #185 on: April 03, 2017, 04:58:34 AM »
Umm...are we using Fractional BAB and Saves, or Whole Numbers? (With the Fractional, it's harder to get +22/12 (Good/Poor) to saves in 20 levels in Gestalt, and 2 half BAB classes 1 level apart don't get to BAB 19)
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #186 on: April 03, 2017, 07:21:40 PM »
Always fractional BAB/Saves :)
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #187 on: April 03, 2017, 07:57:17 PM »
He probably only wanted the increase in BAB anyway, players trend towards asking for bonuses not nerfs :p

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #188 on: April 03, 2017, 08:57:13 PM »
Perhaps, but I can't get better than Full BAB, and So far my build has been Pal only on one side. I wanted the fractional saves to make the saves easier to calculate (for me) as I've been using a spreadsheet to set-up the PC, cohorts, Mounts, followers and equipment.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #189 on: April 04, 2017, 09:33:22 PM »
I've been using a spreadsheet to set-up the PC, cohorts, Mounts, followers and equipment.
I can imagine the mess of paperwork, it's the main reason I didn't sign up as a primary player :p

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #190 on: June 30, 2017, 08:15:00 PM »
Bumping this incase Drammor shows back up cause I want to orc horde all over the place  :D

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #191 on: July 03, 2017, 11:41:29 AM »
I'd have to dig up what happened to my stuff honestly. But yeah, I'd still be interested in seeing this happen.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #192 on: July 04, 2017, 07:20:17 AM »
Okay, this seems really cool. I'd kinda like to do this.

(Also: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?204158-3-5e-Bloodline-Noble-Blood-(PEACH)&p=11258328#post11258328). Just putting that out there.

I have some nice ideas for a bard//various type build with that. Gets up to leadership 36 if I did the math right.

Edit: I didn't do the math right. Thought Firesoul was a +1 La Template. Oh well, I think I can still make it, if I make other trade-offs.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #193 on: July 07, 2017, 08:34:56 AM »
I have been distracted by MHX and thought the general interest here had been lost. I would be happy to reboot the 3.5 corner of my brain and figure out where I was with this, though.

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« Reply #194 on: July 07, 2017, 09:08:44 AM »
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #195 on: July 07, 2017, 09:12:35 AM »
If there's room, I'd be all over this. Ley Engineer is just BEGGING to go into a campaign like this...
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #196 on: July 07, 2017, 09:48:24 AM »
Yay!

(Current Character concept stands at Orog Bard//Warblade/dips with the noble blood line at major (and the draconian template, and might makes right as a feat). This gets up to leadership 36. Level 9 Followers! (well, 2, with extra followers).). I think. Probably best that someone check my math. I guess I will post the full build when things get going a bit more?).



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« Reply #197 on: July 07, 2017, 10:07:49 AM »
That bloodline would interact... interestingly, with the campaign rules. I mean, it would open up the PC classes for NPCs, but they wouldn't be able to gestalt, and they would be able to take PrCs, but they'd naturally still be subject to approval.

Hi Sirp!

Since it's been a while, we should double check on who's still able to and interested in playing. So, a roll call of sorts. And I'll talk to someone about getting a board.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #198 on: July 07, 2017, 10:28:25 AM »
That bloodline would interact... interestingly, with the campaign rules. I mean, it would open up the PC classes for NPCs, but they wouldn't be able to gestalt, and they would be able to take PrCs, but they'd naturally still be subject to approval.

Hi Sirp!

Since it's been a while, we should double check on who's still able to and interested in playing. So, a roll call of sorts. And I'll talk to someone about getting a board.

Ah. I assumed that that effect wouldn't be relevant- I assumed, that since it was removing a restriction that functioned differently, it would be ignored.

But if you think it has a effect, well who am I to disagree?

So you think it should add on the classes from the PC gestalt lists to the possible follower classes? That will require some thought.

(and I am, of course, on board)


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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #199 on: July 07, 2017, 10:37:42 AM »
I've still got my sheets saved over on mythweavers. And I have an expense sheet for items in my documents (unfinished, but it is a start).

So I'd still be game.
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