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Olympians of Conquest (O.o.C.)
« on: June 02, 2013, 07:21:38 PM »
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Important question: fractional BAB/saves or not?
Fractional. You only get the +2 from the first occurrence of it being a good save.

Finally: what the hell is the cost for silver armour? I need to know that to work out the cost of gold.

You would have to ask Osle.

As Osle said.

OK, so how should I deal with the bloodline XP? I need either a major or intermediate celestial bloodline... do I start below 13th level, do I take Item Familiar and quote "xp is a river" to balance it out, or something else?

I'll be starting the group at 1/2 of the way from 13th to 14th. Bloodlines, taking into account XP is a River already, would have you start: 3,500 behind for a intermediate bloodline; just barely at level 13 for Major.

Arias, how do you feel about Energy Bows?
I know of things similar in Egyption Myth, is there anything like that in Greek?

Also, Razorfeather Ammo?
Razorfeather Arrows are good to go. Buy them now, and when they're given to you in the opening scene, you'll find out where they come from.

To pre-empt a question: Raptor Arrows?
Relic Powers would still require the feat-tax. Either Artemis or Apollo would work.

How about the line of Pholus? I'm definitely more of a civilized Centaur, but presumably not immortal like Chiron.

Either that, or I can make up a demi divine origin for my character. That seems to be the standard with the wise teacher centaurs. I was actually considering Half Celestial for one of the two unaccounted for levels so that would fit with being the son of Silenus or something.

Either of those works for me.

EDIT, Been meaning to ask this: At 13 HD the Khan path for Centaur can share "magic buffs" with allies. Are beneficial formulae considered magic buffs? They would seem to qualify as the ability deliberately uses a general term rather than something more specific like "spells," but I wanted to confirm.

Ask Osle what he meant. Bardic Music, Spellshape, various Auras, and so forth might, or might not, count.

I appear to be doing the thing that is going to aim to not die. I am not entirely sure of the utility of this. :lmao
I'm collecting immunities like they're going out of fashion. :p
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You will be outmatched. Work together or die. First one up is to be the Lion. I will not pull punches.

My saves are kinda nuts. Mettle & Evasion, plus I get to roll twice and keep the best.  And my pegasus gets special mount benefits, animal companion benefits, warbeast, and magebred.
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EDIT: Just noticed that the light cavalry scout doesn't give the mounts bonus HD.  I'll be switching up that half to be Zen Fundamentalist 5/Knight Ranger of Furyondy 8, if that's ok with you, arias.
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Splitting enhancement w/ Aim damage???

EDIT:
If splitting+aim is go, then this is my bow:
MW Greatbow = 450gp (not composite b/c my Str is 8)
Dwarvencraft = 600gp (refluff as appropriate)
Serrenwood = 4000gp (refluff as appropriate)
Seeking  = +1 bonus
Splitting = +3 bonus
(Total = 37,050gp)
+4 Dwarvencraft Serrenwood Seeking Splitting Greatbow

Serrenwood would be Elysian Pine  :eh

Aim only applies on one of the two.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 07:52:54 PM by ariasderros »
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Re: Olympians of Conquest (O.o.C.)
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 07:24:58 PM »
Welp, that's good to know.

I also just realised that I threaten a critical on a roll of 10 or better. O_o

Oh, wait, forgot something; just 15 or better. Need to think of something to replace Improved Critical. :lmao

... why you would design a feat to expand critical ranges, then make it useless if you gain anything else doing the same is beyond me.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 07:34:14 PM »
Welp, that's good to know.

Yeah, I feel MUCH less guilty about some of their stats now that I've seen / heard some of ya'lls.
I think Typhon & some of the Titans might still be crazy over-kill, but we'll see what you're like then.

I want to hug you for volunteering as a healer of sorts. (Silver Weapon)
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 07:41:34 PM »
I want to hug you for volunteering as a healer of sorts. (Silver Weapon)

I tried to volunteer for healing...

Also, if anyone has a feat slot available, there's still my suggestion from earlier for Cure Wounds from WizFightMech.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 07:42:32 PM »
Yes.

I will stab you slowly, over the course of hours, to heal you.

Might not have any fancy attacks, but I should have staying power. Maybe I can grab corpses and leg it if it proves necessary? I think my speed is 120' (30*1.5*2+30) :lmao

Hmm, need another 4th level fighter bonus feat.

The completed sheet... will probably be up this time tomorrow (well, today for me), seeing as I have an exam in the afternoon. @_@
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 07:45:41 PM »
Arias, i think you quoted RD's question about fractional BAB/saves, but you didn't answer it.


Also, Healing Belt with 10x charges = 7500gp.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 07:49:53 PM »
When considering battle plans, please remember that I cannot benefit from buffs. XD

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 07:55:24 PM »
Arias, i think you quoted RD's question about fractional BAB/saves, but you didn't answer it.

Hush. That answer was always there. Ignore the "Edit notification" at the bottom of the post.
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Might not have any fancy attacks,

... Big Shiny Distraction isn't a fancy attack?
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 07:57:51 PM »
When considering battle plans, please remember that I cannot benefit from buffs. XD

Only magical buffs though, right?  [Ex] and [Su] are still okay? If so, you can still benefit from my Share Madness or Pack Hunter Totem abilities.

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2013, 07:58:31 PM »
Ranger Knight of Furyondy is in Dragon #317.

As much as I love ZF, I think it's too much overlap, not enough synergy. What do you think of Kurashu's Soulborn fix?

EDIT: And would Smite Opposition qualify for Devoted Tracker?
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2013, 08:00:55 PM »
No, it's a state of perpetual awesomeness.  :cool

... my list of defences is going to be so long.

Also, if people keep the combined cost of their armour (and shield, I guess) below mine, I think that leads to a +6 save bonus for allies. And if you're within 30' of me and the armour is shining? If I make the save/defend against something, everyone within that area can choose to, too. Useful if rocks fall on us (literally), I guess.

Gold: the metal of sharing.

Nope, I only benefit from EX stuff. I can, as a fullround action, suppress this immunity, but...
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2013, 08:09:40 PM »
Upon further investigation, Dwarvencraft can only be applied to items that are primarily metal or stone, so that's out. (Considering that, why it's a suggested mundane enhancement in the Archery Handbook is beyond me... :looloo)

Relatedly, how much is too much to spend on a backup weapon?  (I'm assuming 32,500 is too much...)


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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2013, 08:10:35 PM »
I want to hug you for volunteering as a healer of sorts. (Silver Weapon)

I tried to volunteer for healing...

Also, if anyone has a feat slot available, there's still my suggestion from earlier for Cure Wounds from WizFightMech.

I will have formulae that grant fast healing, so that'll cover healing for everyone except Raineh's magic immune character.

EDIT: Talking about her magic immunity reminded me. The Centaur's Khan abilities, ex or su? Osle doesn't believe in those labels but the feel I get from them is more ex like a marshal than su like a bard. Is that sufficient justification or should I ask?
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2013, 08:13:10 PM »
Sparta? You're thinking too modern. :P

Fast Healing 12 (paragon fast healing stacks with other fast healing. 'Tis awesome) and effectively a doubled HP pool full of d10's and d12's. Negative effects don't last beyond a turn. Don't worry about healing me. If that isn't any use, there's not likely to be much time for healing.

So, I need another fighter bonus feat. Greater Heavy Armour Optimisation is useless with mythral full plate. Suggestions?

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2013, 08:17:18 PM »
Can you ignore enough prereqs to get Weapon Supremacy?

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2013, 08:19:24 PM »
Nope, I only benefit from EX stuff. I can, as a fullround action, suppress this immunity, but...

In that case you won't benefit from Shared Madness or Unity of Hunters, but if you're within 60' of me, you will still get +6 to all Wis-based skill and ability checks, and also you'll be able to move 10' with a 5' step.

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2013, 08:20:06 PM »
Sparta? You're thinking too modern. :P

Fast Healing 12 (paragon fast healing stacks with other fast healing. 'Tis awesome) and effectively a doubled HP pool full of d10's and d12's. Negative effects don't last beyond a turn. Don't worry about healing me. If that isn't any use, there's not likely to be much time for healing.

So, I need another fighter bonus feat. Greater Heavy Armour Optimisation is useless with mythral full plate. Suggestions?
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2013, 08:23:00 PM »
Maybe if I rearranged things, I could get Weapon Supremacy? If I get Weapon Mastery (Slashing) earlier, then there's only Fighter 18 to get around.

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2013, 08:23:28 PM »
So, I need another fighter bonus feat. Greater Heavy Armour Optimisation is useless with mythral full plate. Suggestions?
Strategic Provocation!

Oh, that's good!

EDIT: Here it is.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2013, 08:28:04 PM »
... yes, that is a very good choice. I also add my BAB to Intimidate because there's gold in my sword. Pairs very nicely with the ability to survive most stuff. XD