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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 09:12:32 PM »
What about something like they have over on Enworld?  Where people can comment on the post itself, and those comments are parsed at the bottom of the post their commenting on.

did that even make sense?

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 11:31:13 PM »
I didn't get the e-mail.

If we are going to have any kind of karma system I say A) No negative anything and B) I like getting feedback on specific posts instead of vague numbers.

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 12:04:13 AM »
I hate Enworld's way of doing that so much I specifically avoid their forums.

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 07:32:20 AM »
This
I hate Enworld's way of doing that so much I specifically avoid their forums.

And this
If we are going to have any kind of karma system I say A) No negative anything and B) I like getting feedback on specific posts instead of vague numbers.

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 08:58:18 AM »
Does it appear now?

EDIT: To be safe
This is the first time we've used the Announcement feature for a topic. Did everyone get an email? Is it too obtrusive?
To update: I still don't see any method of upvoting any posts in this or any other thread.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 09:09:56 AM »
Does it appear now?

EDIT: To be safe
This is the first time we've used the Announcement feature for a topic. Did everyone get an email? Is it too obtrusive?
To update: I still don't see any method of upvoting any posts in this or any other thread.
That's weird. There should be an arrow on the top right of posts, right next to the quote button, that turns green when you mouse over it. If you still don't see it, what browser and OS do you use?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2012, 09:12:07 AM by Agita »
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 09:13:28 AM »
Does it appear now?

EDIT: To be safe
This is the first time we've used the Announcement feature for a topic. Did everyone get an email? Is it too obtrusive?
To update: I still don't see any method of upvoting any posts in this or any other thread.
That's weird. There should be an arrow on the top right of posts, right next to the quote button, that turns green when you mouse over it. If you still don't see it, what browser and OS do you use?
It's not showing for me.  Firefox, Windows Vista.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 09:15:24 AM »
Mind taking a screenshot?
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 09:21:29 AM »
Mind taking a screenshot?
Not generally savvy enough to post those coherently.  The only things I see up in the corner are "quote" and "modify," not the green up-arrow bit that briefly showed in Agita's screenshot before he ninja'd it out in an edit.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 09:26:36 AM »
Have you looked at someone elses post rather than yours? Because I don't think you can upvote your own posts, so maybe that's why you don't see the arrow.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2012, 09:26:55 AM »
Ninja'ed by IK.

Mind taking a screenshot?
Not generally savvy enough to post those coherently.  The only things I see up in the corner are "quote" and "modify," not the green up-arrow bit that briefly showed in Agita's screenshot before he ninja'd it out in an edit.
That would be your own post, assuming you don't somehow have the rights to edit other's posts. What about on other people's posts?

EDIT: Hmm. The Forum Staff account can't see the arrows either, but in that case it's just due to not having enough posts to be allowed to upvote, I'm pretty sure. Is anyone else having this problem?

EDIT2: What usergroups are you in, Inna? I'm not sure off the top of my head how to check for myself. Any others than Handbook Writer? Maybe something went wrong with usergroup permissions.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2012, 09:31:36 AM by Agita »
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2012, 09:32:10 AM »
Ninja'ed by IK.

Mind taking a screenshot?
Not generally savvy enough to post those coherently.  The only things I see up in the corner are "quote" and "modify," not the green up-arrow bit that briefly showed in Agita's screenshot before he ninja'd it out in an edit.
That would be your own post, assuming you don't somehow have the rights to edit other's posts. What about on other people's posts?

EDIT: Hmm. The Forum Staff account can't see the arrows either, but in that case it's just due to not having enough posts to be allowed to upvote, I'm pretty sure. Is anyone else having this problem?
I apologize for including the fact that I can see "Modify" on my own posts, as it apparently gave the impression that they're the only ones I was looking at.  To clarify: On my own posts, I can see the "Quote" and "Modify" buttons in the upper right (as I face the screen) corner; on all posts that are not my own, I only see the "Quote" button in that area.

Edit: Off the top of my head, I'm a handbook writer and whatever usergroup you've lumped the general population into based upon post count.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2012, 09:33:47 AM by InnaBinder »
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2012, 10:21:38 AM »
Edit: Off the top of my head, I'm a handbook writer and whatever usergroup you've lumped the general population into based upon post count.
Urgh...
Handbook Writer replaces your normal permissions with a different set, rather than adding to them. It's already caused a few oddities, though nothing that couldn't be fixed.

I've added the permissions to Handbook Writer now. Forum Staff can't vote, for the sake of fairness.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2012, 10:32:18 AM »
Edit: Off the top of my head, I'm a handbook writer and whatever usergroup you've lumped the general population into based upon post count.
Urgh...
Handbook Writer replaces your normal permissions with a different set, rather than adding to them. It's already caused a few oddities, though nothing that couldn't be fixed.

I've added the permissions to Handbook Writer now. Forum Staff can't vote, for the sake of fairness.

I only got 1 email, even though I'm a member of like 29435894 different groups.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2012, 10:58:36 AM »
Upvote visibility is now enabled, thanks to whatever forum voodoo Prime32 and the rest of you did.
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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2012, 04:18:59 PM »
I'm with some other posters in saying that if we're going to have a Karma system, that I would rather have it be based on specific posts rather than just something ambiguous under our Avvy. I like what's proposed here better than what we have.

EDIT: Would we have a way, through our UserCP or some other means, to view all of our posts that have been +1'd? Or something to that effect?

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2012, 09:07:29 PM »
I find the karma system useless.  It's too coarse and too easily gamed.  I never pay attention to it. 

Ziegander's suggestions are good ones.  I think the "+1" type of posts that were the norm work just fine.  Though perhaps some way to search them more easily would be nice.  It's unclear to me what the benefits of the up voting are, except for maybe keeping the post count down(?). 

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2012, 05:41:19 PM »
The post-based system has now been rolled out throughout the boards, and the old karma system has been disabled. Right now cumulative scores are displayed, though that can be turned off.

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2012, 07:29:46 PM »
How do you find out what posts got plusses?  Or are the current scores just whatever points we got from the old system?

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Re: Looking for user input: New karma system
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2012, 07:35:33 PM »
How do you find out what posts got plusses?  Or are the current scores just whatever points we got from the old system?
Points have been reset with the system change. For finding out what posts got upvoted, for now the only possibility is looking for them (for starters, this one by you got three). We're investigating means of searching for upvoted posts.
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