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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Fun Finds v7.0 - Now with +15% more reposts!
« on: April 26, 2024, 11:32:25 PM »Not sure if anyone has mentioned it before, but I think I found a new exploit that opens up a ton of possibilities: Alter Summoned Monster!
The spell is already famous for its exploits with stuff like using it on Heightened Mount, but today I noticed that it is a very rare summoning spell in that it is not based on Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally. These latter two spells contain a well-known limiting rule for any creature summoned with these spells (or their derivatives):QuoteCreatures summoned using this spell cannot use spells or spell-like abilities that duplicate spells with expensive material components (such as wish).Alter Summoned Monster does not contain this limitation, thus you are able to summon creatures and have them use their (expensive) spell-like abilities as you want (except innate summoning spells).
For example, with Summon Evil Monster you can use Alter Summoned Monster on a 6th-level summon spell and summon an Efreeti to fulfill your Wish without paying any material costs, a full spell-level lower than Limited Wish.
The limitation on summoned creatures not being able to use their own summoning abilities is actually built in to the Conjuration (Summoning) subschool, not part of any particular spell. Altered Summoned Monster is still Conjuration (Summoning), and so "A summoned creature cannot use any innate summoning abilities it may have, and it refuses to cast any spells that would cost it XP, or to use any spell-like abilities that would cost XP if they were spells."