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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #200 on: July 07, 2017, 10:47:11 AM »
OK so I just looked again at the chargen guidelines, and I see that there's a very restricted list of allowed classes. Would you be open to accepting homebrew substitutes? I'm thinking a Jongleur (side A) // Wardancer (side B)? Jongleur is basically bard-meets-totemist, and wardancer is a barbarian/warblade with a dancey theme.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #201 on: July 07, 2017, 10:58:23 AM »
Did you also notice the 1 approved homebrew per person rule?

This setup was quite interesting to build for lemme tell you.

Lets see.

I was building a Fey Blooded White Dragonspawn Dvati. Crusader/Barbarian with Paragon as my allowed homebrew. Though I was very close to using the Rage Powers from Pathfinder instead of Paragon.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #202 on: July 07, 2017, 11:00:01 AM »
My characters still exist so I'm still in~

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #203 on: July 07, 2017, 11:05:45 AM »
Did you also notice the 1 approved homebrew per person rule?

This setup was quite interesting to build for lemme tell you.

Lets see.

I was building a Fey Blooded White Dragonspawn Dvati. Crusader/Barbarian with Paragon as my allowed homebrew. Though I was very close to using the Rage Powers from Pathfinder instead of Paragon.
Gah! Reading fail. I notice that base classes aren't on the example list, though...

EDIT: Drammor, would you approve the Bladecraft subsystem as my one piece of homebrew? I've been wanting to give it a try. If so, then I'll go Fighter // Binder.

(There are a couple of edits I made during the Interregnum which haven't been back-ported yet. It'll be a quick fix, and then writing the special combat rules is priority 1.)
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #204 on: July 07, 2017, 11:14:11 AM »
Yeah, I'm pretty excited for a Leadership campaign. :D And hey, those are some great questions you have there. Let's see if I can knock any of them out.

1. Sorry about that. To clarify, each player will select a base class from list A, and another base class from list B. For players, no other base classes are allowed.

Quote from one of Drammor's first posts. So I think not. Could be wrong, but that's his words.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #205 on: July 07, 2017, 11:18:17 AM »
Still here, still ready.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #206 on: July 07, 2017, 11:26:23 AM »
I'm reading the Bladecraft system now, but it's going to take me at least a half hour to absorb what I'm looking at.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #207 on: July 07, 2017, 11:40:32 AM »
I'm reading the Bladecraft system now, but it's going to take me at least a half hour to absorb what I'm looking at.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #208 on: July 07, 2017, 11:43:08 AM »
I forgot, but were we doing cross crafting?

My companion has Craft Wondrous and Extraordinary Artisan. If we have someone bardlike taking Requiem that'll free her up for Craft Magical Arms and Armor as well.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #209 on: July 07, 2017, 11:49:18 AM »
I forgot, but were we doing cross crafting?

My companion has Craft Wondrous and Extraordinary Artisan. If we have someone bardlike taking Requiem that'll free her up for Craft Magical Arms and Armor as well.

My main is a bard. I can take requiem if I retrain a lower level feat slot for it.

Crafting sounds good. Can I put in a commission for +4 cha and str gear? I really need that, but it's a big chunk out of 9th level wbl.


Actually -. How does crafting XP work for followers. They don't have XP totals, but I have plenty of mid-level adept and warmage followers who could do lots of useful crafting.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #210 on: July 07, 2017, 11:55:17 AM »
I forgot, but were we doing cross crafting?

My companion has Craft Wondrous and Extraordinary Artisan. If we have someone bardlike taking Requiem that'll free her up for Craft Magical Arms and Armor as well.

My main is a bard. I can take requiem if I retrain a lower level feat slot for it.

Crafting sounds good. Can I put in a commission for +4 cha and str gear? I really need that, but it's a big chunk out of 9th level wbl.


Actually -. How does crafting XP work for followers. They don't have XP totals, but I have plenty of mid-level adept and warmage followers who could do lots of useful crafting.

She can do that. Would be 6150 apiece unless you can provide the spells. (I include the scroll cost) still would be a third of your wbl.

mark 150 off the total price, forgot she had Eagle's Splendor on her list. doi.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #211 on: July 07, 2017, 12:00:24 PM »
It's just bears strength and eagles splendor, right?

Can you get those from a adept follower? I forget how supplying prerequisite spells works. I have several followers who can cast that though.

Also, it's tottaly worth it, since it gets me up to that magic 36 leadership, which grants 9th level healer followers, and raise dead/revivify spells.

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #212 on: July 07, 2017, 12:03:51 PM »
Just a 2nd level arcane spell. But uh, you don't need to use npc classes for followers.

"Non-gestalt tier 4-6 and no prcs for followers."

That is back in Drammor's initial post on the Classes line.


But yeah, 12150 if you don't have Bear's Strength. 12K if you do.

I'm also investing in a few Field Provision Boxes to supply myself and my camp makers. (I don't have an army. Just people who maintain camp)
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #213 on: July 07, 2017, 12:08:51 PM »
Adept, the NPC class, is a tier 4 class which gets these spells, along with a variety of other ones. It had versitility and a nice spell list.

Most of my army is warlocks, warmages and barbarians.

If what was talked about for my bloodline upthread goes ahead, probably some dread Necro and warblade too.

But adepts have a niche. So I have some, as level 6-8 followers.

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #214 on: July 07, 2017, 12:14:53 PM »
*shrugs* works for me.

Might go ahead and stat out my full list of items and then see what scrolls I might be able to bypass with a visit to your minion instead.

Right now I only need Create Food and Water, and Control Water. Divine spells levels 3 & 4.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #215 on: July 07, 2017, 12:37:22 PM »
Oh yeah. I have to do gear also. I guess I'll do that tomorrow when I have some more free time and my laptop.

The follower crafting thing has some potential.

(Also, what class is your crafter?)

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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #216 on: July 07, 2017, 12:40:38 PM »
My cohort is a Pixie Bard/Warlock.


Kinda funny when I picture her crafting me a full sized set of fullplate or two.

But hey, small hands must mean more precision.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #217 on: July 07, 2017, 12:48:42 PM »
Gah! Reading fail. I notice that base classes aren't on the example list, though...

EDIT: Drammor, would you approve the Bladecraft subsystem as my one piece of homebrew? I've been wanting to give it a try. If so, then I'll go Fighter // Binder.

(There are a couple of edits I made during the Interregnum which haven't been back-ported yet. It'll be a quick fix, and then writing the special combat rules is priority 1.)

I'm still not perfect on how Bladecraft works, but I believe I have a rudimentary understanding, and would also like to see how it goes in practice. You can use the subsystem, sure.
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #218 on: July 07, 2017, 01:02:00 PM »
I'm still here... gotta re-look at crafting focused cohort(s).
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Re: [Interest Check] 3.5. Warfare, leadership and world-saving
« Reply #219 on: July 07, 2017, 01:17:30 PM »
Gah! Reading fail. I notice that base classes aren't on the example list, though...

EDIT: Drammor, would you approve the Bladecraft subsystem as my one piece of homebrew? I've been wanting to give it a try. If so, then I'll go Fighter // Binder.

(There are a couple of edits I made during the Interregnum which haven't been back-ported yet. It'll be a quick fix, and then writing the special combat rules is priority 1.)

I'm still not perfect on how Bladecraft works, but I believe I have a rudimentary understanding, and would also like to see how it goes in practice. You can use the subsystem, sure.
AWESOME. OK, one fighter/binder coming up. :D
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