The Crown's Courtyard (OOC general discussion)

[Raineh Daze]

If you pick Perfect and Elegant Maid twice for the same feat, you get the unique bonus.

This doesn't clarify my question.

The scenario is: I don't have the feat.

I use Elegant Maid to get the feat.

I use Perfect and Elegant Maid to get the same feat.

Let's assume it's Dodge.

Do I get:

The Dodge bonus to AC increases to 3 and applies against all enemies.

or

You gain Concealment that is not negated by True Seeing neither special senses like tremorsense/blindsight/mindsight/whateversightsense.

As for Sakuya, I'd need longer to try and remember what her lunar implications are, but Final B from Imperishable Night has this:

Kaguya: Your companions include people who depend on the moon
as well, don't they, miss vampire?
Remilia: So what?
Sakuya:It's a full moon right now.
That means we're invincible. Wonderful.

She is an odd one.

[oslecamo]

If you pick Perfect and Elegant Maid twice for the same feat, you get the unique bonus.

This doesn't clarify my question.

The scenario is: I don't have the feat.

I use Elegant Maid to get the feat.

I use Perfect and Elegant Maid to get the same feat.

Let's assume it's Dodge.

Do I get:

The Dodge bonus to AC increases to 3 and applies against all enemies.

or

You gain Concealment that is not negated by True Seeing neither special senses like tremorsense/blindsight/mindsight/whateversightsense.

Ah, sorry for the confusion, the Elegant Maid effect " Dodge bonus to AC increases to 3 and applies against all enemies." only.

As for Sakuya, I'd need longer to try and remember what her lunar implications are, but Final B from Imperishable Night has this:

Kaguya: Your companions include people who depend on the moon
as well, don't they, miss vampire?
Remilia: So what?
Sakuya:It's a full moon right now.
That means we're invincible. Wonderful.

She is an odd one.

Sakuya's original theme is LUNA dial~LUNA clock. She probably draw power from the moon, but that doesn't make her a lunarian. You know, like Luna Child is a fairy that explicitly gets her powers from the moon and is literally named LUNA but is not a lunarian. If anything, lunarians don't depend on the moon for their powers, Eirin fights at her strongest while in a chamber sealed away from the real moon after all.

EDIT: More in particular you forgot the bit before from Kaguya's speech:

The moon granted many powers to the Earth.
Most powers such as magic were originally those of the moon.

So yeah all magic comes from the moon, so by your logic Marisa and Matchy and Byakuren would also be lunarians since they use the moon's power too. 

[Raineh Daze]

Ah, cool. I'll give the maid a look over and adjust feats, but it's mostly minor adjustment. It'll probably be Two-Weapon Fighting for the obvious reason of having pretty bad attack bonuses in comparison to actual PCs. Hitting things helps. Also, if you use a swift action to reallocate feats, does that mean you rearrange the entire set? e.g. you change Elegant Maid and Perfect and Elegant Maid at the same time.

Meanwhile: Sakuya's also drawing power from the moon whilst not being a youkai, which is another level of strange. Perfect and elegant but completely nonsensical.

[oslecamo]

Ah, cool. I'll give the maid a look over and adjust feats, but it's mostly minor adjustment. It'll probably be Two-Weapon Fighting for the obvious reason of having pretty bad attack bonuses in comparison to actual PCs. Hitting things helps. Also, if you use a swift action to reallocate feats, does that mean you rearrange the entire set? e.g. you change Elegant Maid and Perfect and Elegant Maid at the same time.

Only one choice changed by swift action.

Meanwhile: Sakuya's also drawing power from the moon whilst not being a youkai, which is another level of strange. Perfect and elegant but completely nonsensical.

You probably missed my edit, but Kaguya in the same conversation also points out that all magic came from the moon, and so Marisa's another ordinary human that can use the moon's power (she even gets several moon-themed spells) while still being an human. And completely ordinary. And insane.

[Raineh Daze]

I can be pedantic here and point out that powers originating from the moon and powers depending on the moon are a key difference.

[oslecamo]

Not when they're all in the same sentence from the same character at the same time, Kaguya's pretty clearly putting all moon-based powers in the same boat then accusing Sakuya of being one of its users, not that different from a simple magician in the lunarians eyes.

[Kuroimaken]

Osle, answered your PM.

As for band name suggestions:

Lunar Killer Castors
Space Killer Castors
Graveyard of Broken Dreams
Asian Undead Generation
L'arc~en~mar
D'arc~en~mar
Steelington Police Department
The Homewreckers
Toxin, a tribute to Poison
White Sabbath
Greensnake
Judas Clergyman
Lad Airship
Deep Magenta
Deathcropolis
For the Lord Commander
Mooncake
Chookity
Aztec on Titan
Beelzeboss
Lerigou
Abyss Souls
Deus Ex Metallina
Sonata Aeterna
Help, My Pie is on Fire
The Offspawn
Gigadeth
The Shoo Tang Clan
Betallica
Deaf Guardian
Deff Leotard
Steppentiger
Casualty, a tribute to Survivor
The Mongooses, a tribute to Scorpions
The Disease
The What
Dos Reis, a tribute to Angra
Concerto Y
Cowardly F
Radiator Colon
Onça Pintada, a tribute to Pantera
Doctors, a tribute to Slayer
Anorexic Cadaver
Mistaken Sixfold
The Cruel Angel's Thesis
Nocturne Antartica
Angels and Clerics
Rationalizations From This Side (you can call it RIFTS)
Bishops in Divine Service, a tribute to KISS
Peacebaby, a tribute to Manowar

...I think that's it, some of these aren't all that funny to be honest.

[Nanshork]

Ugh, I actually care about Int now so I know I'm going to end up not being a Chobit which annoys me from a fluff perspective but oh well.

[Raineh Daze]

Ugh, I actually care about Int now so I know I'm going to end up not being a Chobit which annoys me from a fluff perspective but oh well.

Feel free to be Nitinol-1 and maid via strange resonance

[ketaro]

Second character is a vampire with a rock band, any ideas for a name?

For the character or the band? 

Edit: Oh how fancy, I thought that was the most recent post and then discovered 2 more pages of banter on tohou lore 

[oslecamo]

Ugh, I actually care about Int now so I know I'm going to end up not being a Chobit which annoys me from a fluff perspective but oh well.

That's an unforgivable mistake in my part since plenty of Chobits are maids, added racial ACF to Mythical maid to allow to use Cha instead of Int for both the class and main school.

[Raineh Daze]

Another thing for me to reconsider.

Though I do like my derpy failed chobit.

[Nanshork]

Ugh, I actually care about Int now so I know I'm going to end up not being a Chobit which annoys me from a fluff perspective but oh well.

That's an unforgivable mistake in my part since plenty of Chobits are maids, added racial ACF to Mythical maid to allow to use Cha instead of Int for both the class and main school.

Hmm, I'd lose out on a few points of Natural Armor and some skill points. And putting points in Cha makes me want to take more skills. 

6+2 from a second choice of Model Maid from Perfect and Elegant Servant isn't feeling like enough...

[oslecamo]

Ah yes your other gestalt half was Int based too.

Added Chobits Racial ACF to Machine Mistress as well.

[ketaro]

Or just eat the Int penalty of a Chobit because not a high-op game 

[YuweaCurtis]

Guess I didn't post it like I thought I did, but can those of us that have Red Magic start with a few spells?

Also think I'm going with "The Cruel Angel's Thesis" for a band name.

Last night I just realized I'm going to have to get over the fact there's a giant enemy allied crab in the party. I'll have to resist looking for open spots.

[oslecamo]

Guess I didn't post it like I thought I did, but can those of us that have Red Magic start with a few spells?

Ah now I recall seeing something along those lines but forgot to read it.

One spell of each level up to max "free".

[Kuroimaken]

Guess I didn't post it like I thought I did, but can those of us that have Red Magic start with a few spells?

Also think I'm going with "The Cruel Angel's Thesis" for a band name.

Last night I just realized I'm going to have to get over the fact there's a giant enemy allied crab in the party. I'll have to resist looking for open spots.

YAY! I HELPED!

Also, now you have an Evangelion reference in your band. Any chance the bandmembers are angels? 

[YuweaCurtis]

I somehow feel it being full of devils is more ironic.

[Skyrock]

Why not both, and hire Erinyes?